David A. Puchta said:
Now hopefully we can move on to the reason i posted. Hope all the hair is beaten off your chests. Look i can talk smak with the best of them. Thats not my goal here my goal is the overlapping that i cant seam to avoid when i work with bacteria and the gold roasting and smelthing process. I grew up in Placerville California on the south fork of the American river playing under the wooden bridge at the bottom of mosquito road. Any one that has visited this area knows what i am talking about. I have listened to all the old time miners and there stories of gold. I have used all the acids and have seamed to scratch all the smelthing processes one time or another. I am going to move on with this post as long as it lives. I dont need to post my findings i want to. There is a big difference between the too. There is a reason i am going back in time to the beginning of human science and checking in with modern science is because i think something was missed along the way. Let me point out some markers that i see.
1. Egyptions had a lot of gold.
I'm not sure what point you are attempting to make by mentioning this. The Egyptians also conquered many people, one of which they did so because of the gold available where they lived. Even though it's ancient history, it's a fairly well known fact how Egyptians came into so much gold. It certainly wasn't because of alchemy.
2. Our forefathers spent a lot of time in egypt studying alchemy
If you are European, and you know European History, you would also know that our for-fathers spent a lot of time raping, pillaging and plundering the Middle East not only for gold, but for religious artifacts and also, during the crusades, information, science, etc. Matter of fact numbers come from the same part of the world, the fertile crescent. Because they were able to develop intensive farming, and animal husbandry before anyone else, they also developed science and religion before anyone else. Our for-fathers didn't spend time studying alchemy in the Middle East, nor Egypt. They raided and hoarded information about sciences and philosophy. Matter of fact, many of the ancient writings by Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, were re-discovered in the Middle East after Europe lost all touch during the dark ages. But there was nothing nice about the way Europeans obtained knowledge from the Middle East.
3. The process of hydrochloric acid and nitric acid. Came from an alchemist.
Actually Alchemist is the label you are putting on the people who originally discovered Aqua Regia. In reality, in their own ancient language, they were the seekers of ILM, or Knowledge, which oddly enough is also the second most used word in the Koran. So no, it didn't come from an Alchemist, it is thought to have been discovered by a seeker of knowledge, and originating in the Middle East, probably somewhere in Iran or Iraq. But Alchemist is the word YOU are describing what that person was, that is not how they would have described themselves though.
4. Bacteria is introduced during the gold roasting process to remove sulfur.
There is also a process for bio-leaching electronics with a bacteria, however there is only a 75% recovery rate thus far, two different types of bacteria are used one to recover and one to produce. But I thought we were talking about growing gold and then accumulating it into nuggets naturally...
5. If gold came from some star exploding process and is millions of years old on our earth, then
explain why you can find a nugget 6 inches in the sand in indio california.
Uhmmm, because someone dropped it??? Wouldn't that be easily possible?
6. My opinion is all metals came from a Bacteria. The reason gold is of intrest is not google eyed
get ritch scheme. Its because like silver you can find it ready to use in its final stage and is stable with out oxidation.
The phrase "my opinion" is what we should focus on. You are offering only your opinion, with no scientific repeatable processes, right? I hope you are not talking about transmutation, I really hope you are not one of those people that played World of Warcraft and now think you can do the same thing in real life, I will be very disappointed. I was looking for something more solid, a discussing about your process so others could repeat it, I thought you were wanting some kind of open source meeting of minds, yet I have seen you do nothing so far except repeatedly point people to your youtube. This is starting to seem more like self promotion than anything else.
7. In the last 10 years there have bein discoveries using electron microscopes that point to bacteria
either hording or growing gold crystals in a lab.
Still, it points but there is no hard core evidence. Just because something is suspected or some proof points to something, does not mean it is true. You want to believe, and that may be the issue here. You want to believe so fervently that you are not giving any other options any possible validity. You have already closed your mind to the possibility that your opinion is wrong, and then chastise other people for not having an open mind. If you are going to take a scientific approach to this, you also need to adapt and cultivate a scientific un-biased mentality.
8. My own observations through my research of hydrogen and electrochemistry has put me on this path I did not go out looking for it. Now that I found it I want to understand and reproduce it. I have no interest in holding this technology to myself.
Then maybe, if you have a process, you can post it for others to attempt and possibly re-create, adding also, validity to your claim. I think if you posted your process people would be more likely to talk about it, but as it stands now you have given nobody, anything to talk about. It seems more like you are waiting for people to post information for you to read, rather than you providing information on your process for us to recreate.
9. On my youtube Hhydrogen4power all i post is results so you can see its there. Take it or leve it.
This was what I meant, this is flagrant self promotion, you are not talking about anything worth value to any of us.
10. The Bio-Metals group have worked on some of these issues. I am not the only one
What Bio-Metals group? What are you talking about? And to think you are even the thousandth one would be stretching it. I read an article about biological leaching of metals way back in 1996.
11. In our Bio-Reactor there seams to be a growth that goes on and metals that were not in the
water are clearly visable and this is interesting to me and i would like to share it with you.
I wish you would share it with us, I am interested in seeing this and understanding the principles, methods, processes, etc. Please do post it.
12. There is no dought in my mind the men and and women in this forum are extremely intelligent.
I'm glad you said that, it would reflect very poorly on you indeed if you thought otherwise, and would speak volumes about your own intelligence. By the way, I wanted to point out something, not to be petty. But elevating yourself to the lofty level, and believing you have the right to judge anyone on this forum on their intelligence, what about your spelling? I suffer from an extreme form of dyslexia, yet I still have better grammar, and spelling, than you do. And before you say it's where you grew up, I live in Northern California also.
13. Hope this clears up the confusions and we can get on with it.
Yes, please, lets get on with it, post some pictures, video's, information on your process, I would really like to see all this.
Scott
