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synthetiklone said:
(NOTE: Anyone doing this, to be wary of magnets above aqua-regia solution should particles jump out. I dont think these particles are that attracted, but warning just in case) :eek:

SK

Thanks Synthetiklone for the great detail. In regards to using the magnets, is it better to extract the magnetic particles at this stage of the process or is it better to wait until the materials are in a powdered form?

Please keep us advised on your progress. I'm still removing platters from drives. I've ran into a batch that has them pressed together rather than mechanically fastened. They're a real bugger to get apart...
 
Hi,

No stop! - the silvery particles themselves are ALL magnetically sensitive.
I wouldn't extract them with a magnet. It is just an interesting anomaly I write about.

I would probably find out what they are, and if they resist aqua regia, try hot aqua regia, platinum is suppost to dissolve in it then, and I guess if you have enough, it might test positive! I am still a bit suspicious though, as there is quite alot of this silvery dust compared to the amount of original coating, and surely too much to be solely platinum. At least "I" don't think there is this much platinum from what I've read, it is only a small addition.

As far as the rest of the process goes, I'm no further than where I've written about. I am in need of more nitric, and hydrochloric, not to mention some SMB and some urea, and while I'm on the subject, I've still got to find some tin powder from somewhere.

Things are progressing slow, so slow, that I've resorted to using ferric chloride to strip some pins, and after trying to dilute and rid the ferric chloride, I'm left with the gold mixed in with some light brown powdery muck at the bottom of the beaker. Bagghh it all :) I now have two beakers of gold flakes in powdery muck!

I've also manually sliced the small chip wires from 50 486's, and compressed the bits into a nice little block of gold 3mm x 3mm x 2mm high.. quite impressive for just the wires. (UPDATE: I pressed them even smaller, but regretted this later as when trying to dissolve solid block in HCl/chlorox, proved time consuming!) Now to figure how to get the rest off the ceramics, and do a tally up. BTW, there is a gold plated panel under the wafer chip, looks like some form of silver solder/epoxy holds the wafer on, heat removes the wafer, unless the acid can get under it.
BTW, if you can remove the silicon wafer chips cleanly, they are of great interest to students studying microscopic things. sold quite a few now for $5 each! waste not want not.
[UPDATE: See my unusual sulphuric cell post for exp of how I ended up doing the cpu's! plus a tally up in weight of gold content for the 50 cpu's only. very interesting]

Ohh yes, also must mention in case someone misses them. In some brands of hard drives, there is a gold interconnector, the (20?) pins are 4 times the length of the IDE edge connector ones, it is located out of sight, under the PCB, joining the PCB to the internals of the drive. Well worth it. Also noted that its best to try and pull any connector pins completely out, as quite often I found, the gold goes into the plastic, and sometimes even right out the back and to the PCB. What a waste to simply clip or break it off!

Q: If complete pins and plastic are thrown into acid, as I've read some ppl do, does the acid get down inside the plastic, and does all the gold come out ok?


Regards
SK
 
synth said:
I am in need of more nitric, and hydrochloric, not to mention some SMB and some urea, and while I'm on the subject, I've still got to find some tin powder from somewhere.

Things are progressing slow, so slow, that I've resorted to using ferric chloride to strip some pins, and after trying to dilute and rid the ferric chloride, I'm left with the gold mixed in with some light brown powdery muck at the bottom of the beaker. Bagghh it all Smile I now have two beakers of gold flakes in powdery muck!

There is a nitric acid recipe here on the forum under the Guide to the forum that requires sodium nitrate and sulfuric acid.

Lots of household products (driveway cleaner and pool acid) contain HCl, check the MSDS on the manufacturers websites.

SMB can be obtained from http://chemistrystore.com .

Urea isn't required, just boil down your AR solutions three or four times after dissolving your gold or use HCl-Cl instead and you won't need to boil down to remove the NOx.

Cleaning up the FeCl3 muck is easy if you have HCl. Just wash wash the foils and muck with hot 15% HCl a few times filter, rinse with plenty of water, and you are set.

The plastic headers can cause problems, some types turn to much and trap the gold.

Steve
 
Hi, thanks for the info, on the FeCl3 too.

BTW Steve, congrats from me too, on you doing the videos, it sure helps quantify all the writings.. like the old saying goes, "A picture is worth a thousand words". Thank you.

I am trying to watch the platinum video, but I'm on dialup, the video is long, I buffer 30 megs, then the video starts, and I loose the connection without watching 2 seconds. Is there a way of splitting it up smaller, or a way of recovering it from half way. The other ones are sweet so far. Thx.

Ive found SMB at a home brewery supplier, and some urea at a gardening store! Ive just got to find our (NZ) equivalent of Chlorox, and hydrogen peroxide.
Fantastic stuff.. getting there, and hopefully post some button pics soon :)
(I cant believe how much Au is in 486 chips, and Ive only dont the wires so far! Will post a pic of my fine-gold-wire cube when I get a chance!).

Cheers
SK
 
The reason the videos are in a single file is for the MAC users. The split files would not play sequentially for them unless I joined them before posting.

Steve
 

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