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Well, there is no BS in the first couple of pages, and there are some very nice instructions, that could probably be used to build rather efficient electrolysers.

But the magic pops up rather quickly insisting that 600% to 1000% efficiency should be obtainable and that “Bob’s electronics draw energy from the environment”.

There is one nice thing about it: “The electrolysis gas is explosive” and in that, he is right. The really scientifically challenged normally insist, that the gas “implodes”, totally ignoring the Ideal Gas Law and the temperature of the combustion gas.
We’re not even talking first hands experience, but just referring to what “Bob has done”.

Oh yeah, once again I’m a slave of traditional science and agent of the oil companies.

But let’s follow that assumption, and assume:

- it really works
- the oil companies control the US government and don’t want it to be known

What would happen?
There would be a huge benefit of anything giving independence of Middle Eastern oil, and any government harnessing this technology could give OPEC the birdie.
Believe it or not, but in most of the world the governments own the oil industry, not the opposite, and both Russia and China would do anything to humiliate both OPEC and the US.
Furthermore these countries have lots of very competent scientists and a willingness to test alternative solutions.
Attempting to optimize electrolysis for a hundred years should also have given a hint that thermodynamics was not right, and electrolysis could work “wonders”

Once again, no one has ever made a “perpetual motion machine” or “free energy device” work in a controlled experiment.
Please build one, and let’s see* it work.

*See as in ”Scientifically see”


Oh, and http://www.theorionproject.org/en/breakthrough.html

"a non-profit organisation attempting to raise $ 60 million in 60 days"
:shock:
 
Peter , they give the info out freely and are asking for donations to bring this technology to the public. They are an offshoot of The Disclosure project, a group of former government employees(Documented employees) that have come forward seeking a congressional hearing so they can go on the record with what they know. people have been working on this for years in secret government programs and believe the time has come for disclosure.

The link i gave in my previous post is a good source for those who would like to build a HHO cell, and i don't consider it double posting if it is relevant to both threads, and it most certainly is.

B.T.W i have 255 Km's with the cell installed on my car and the battery is not dead yet as u predicted it would be, i will have to finish up the tank to see if there is any significant fuel savings.

U should watch the MLK video i have in my tag Peter, it might do u some good, today is the 40 th anniversary of his assassination. His words are as poinyent today as they where then.
 
Arcani said:
and are asking for donations to bring this technology to the public.
That doesn't send up a red flag for you?

When's the last time you saw money go looking for people?

Harold
 
Just my words Harold :wink:

And the problem about posting the same link in two places is, that it gets bloody confusing to have a good discussion!

I have already answered here:
http://goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=2138&start=60


Yes, I have great respect for MLK (he did not believe in alchemy either, by the way)
 
Arcani wrote:
and are asking for donations to bring this technology to the public.

That doesn't send up a red flag for you?

I have not and will not give a donation. There are many sites selling the information that the Orion project is giving away for free,
 

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