FrugalRefiner said:
That was almost six years ago! You really carry a grudge.
I contributed to that as well, and I don't regret it for a second. It was an act of kindness for a friend.
I'm sure if Kurt has a problem with his contribution, he can speak for himself.
If you hate it so much here, why do you keep coming?
Dave
WOW, WOW, WOW - not sure what is going on here (have not read the whole thread - yet) but we need to back up the truck here
First of all Jon - Geo is the one that "led" the effort to help butcher - (Geo brought it up & started it) - I then jumped in to promote/push it - including my own donation
Jon - I did not help butcher out because of how much gold he may have had - or not had buried in the ground
I helped butcher out because I VERY MUCH consider him a TRUE friend - just like I have spent time in your house - I have spent time in butchers house - & in both case's I went "out of my way" to do so - because I consider BOTH of you as TRUE friends
Why? --- because BOTH of you are (in part) responsible for what I know about refining - with out that help - from friends - I would not know what I know
Concerning the buried gold (that butcher may - or may not have had - "at that time") is not relevant
At that time - butcher was going through some VERY hard times --- he was ABOUT to loose EVERYTHING
If my contribution kept butcher from "having" to dig up his gold - in order to survive the hard times he was going through at that time - then it was money "well spent" --- because butcher is MY FRIEND :!:
Edit to add; - Butcher does not owe me a dime !
In my own life - there have been more times then I care to mention - that FRIENDS of mine have helped me out when I was "about" to loose everything --- they did not tell me --- "well Kurt - I understand you are "about" to loose everything - but you still have a truck, chain saws, guns, tools (expensive tools like a "complete" wood working shop) so until you sell all that - & have lost everything - I can't help you out"
No - my "true friends" helped me BEFORE I lost it all so I wouldn't loose it all --- Thank God for true friends (they are few) --- most people will "take" advantage of you - buy your stuff for dimes on the dollar & there by help you loose it all - FRIENDS don't do that --- true friends help in keeping you from loosing everything -because in you - they see more value - then the money your (remaining) stuff is worth - so helping you keep what remains has more value then standing by & watching you loose it ALL
Such is the case of my GOOD friend butcher - if my SMALL donation kept him from digging up his gold - which was nearing the last of what he had left at the time - it was money well spent
Jon - as your TRUE friend I have to say this - & as I said - I have been in your house - you have been VERY successful in this business (of refining) you joined this forum about the same time I joined --- like me - when you first joined you knew little to nothing about refining - it has been the help of this forum - including the help of butcher, Dave & Harold that has helped you to achieve that success - and don't forget my own help - I went WAY out on a limb for you - or you would not even be here any longer
Edit to add; - Jon - I spent HOURS writing PMs & phone calls with the mods in order for you to be allowed back on the forum - should I now send you a bill for that time ? --- No - I did it because I consider you a friend & I felt that - even with your own short comings - you had/have something to contribute to this forum
As your friend I consider my time well spent & you don't owe me a dime (end edit)
In your success Jon - have you forgotten all the help you have received to achieve that success :?:
And for what it is worth - I HIGHLY recommend that "everyone" read Hokes book - Hokes book my not be the answer to "all" things refining - but it "most certainly" gives you the foundation to get "well on your way" & after that everything else discussed (new methods etc.) falls easier into place --- many question we see asked would not need to be asked - if more new members read Hokes in the first place :!:
Kurt