hey everyone, im here to challenge your patience one more time haha.
i seen in one of the sub-forums a person asking if there were any small scale hobbyist refiners on vancouver island. i messaged him and eventually spoke on the phone with him, and i explained that i only have a little experience, but i will see if i can help him out.
he said he had some material dropped from a metal chloride solution with lye, and it was given to him as a gift. he had tried a few things but didnt get anywhere, so we both agreed that he would send me a 5 gram sample of both powders he had. one was the original, the other was what was left over after he had tinkered with it.
so, i took a small sample of the original and boiled it in hcl, which produced a bright yellow solution. i took another small sample and digested in poor mans AR, which turned a dark emerald green. i stannous tested both liquids and the hcl wash tested negative the yellow stayed around a Minuit before disappearing. the AR tested weird. it went clear and then a very faint brown powder looked like it started to form but didnt change the whole drop color, it was like the particles were suspended individually with clear water around it.
i filtered, and took a small sample in a test tube of the yellow liquid, and added SMB, no change, same as the AR, no change. i made sure there was no nitric left in the AR by evaporation and adding more HCL. no brown fumes came off the syrup.
at this point i figured ill add them both together, im not getting anything anyway. i still have most of the sample as well so i can try any suggestions.
i neutralized the mix with baking soda, and got a weird creamsicle orange color precipitate.
im on a time crunch as its christmas but i can upload pictures of the powders and any processes you guys want me to do, if you have any ideas.
well, thanks again, and merry christmas!!
- Ian
i seen in one of the sub-forums a person asking if there were any small scale hobbyist refiners on vancouver island. i messaged him and eventually spoke on the phone with him, and i explained that i only have a little experience, but i will see if i can help him out.
he said he had some material dropped from a metal chloride solution with lye, and it was given to him as a gift. he had tried a few things but didnt get anywhere, so we both agreed that he would send me a 5 gram sample of both powders he had. one was the original, the other was what was left over after he had tinkered with it.
so, i took a small sample of the original and boiled it in hcl, which produced a bright yellow solution. i took another small sample and digested in poor mans AR, which turned a dark emerald green. i stannous tested both liquids and the hcl wash tested negative the yellow stayed around a Minuit before disappearing. the AR tested weird. it went clear and then a very faint brown powder looked like it started to form but didnt change the whole drop color, it was like the particles were suspended individually with clear water around it.
i filtered, and took a small sample in a test tube of the yellow liquid, and added SMB, no change, same as the AR, no change. i made sure there was no nitric left in the AR by evaporation and adding more HCL. no brown fumes came off the syrup.
at this point i figured ill add them both together, im not getting anything anyway. i still have most of the sample as well so i can try any suggestions.
i neutralized the mix with baking soda, and got a weird creamsicle orange color precipitate.
im on a time crunch as its christmas but i can upload pictures of the powders and any processes you guys want me to do, if you have any ideas.
well, thanks again, and merry christmas!!
- Ian
