Looking for value on fingers and ceramics.

[silversaddle1]

Sold off site.

No one was even close.

 

[anachronism]

Sold off site.

No one was even close.

Yeah. Sure.

 

[snoman701]

Sold off site.

No one was even close.

Great

You posted here asking for help.

Now help us out, since there's a buyer out there that pays so well, share what you got for it and who bought it.

 

[jarlowski1]

Sold off site.

No one was even close.

Great

You posted here asking for help.

Now help us out, since there's a buyer out there that pays so well, share what you got for it and who bought it.

I was thinking the same thing. This forum is all about helping each other out and if someone has a buyer that pays more than we all have been getting (personally I refine everything except the low grade scrap myself) why not share that buyer so we all can benefit from it.

 

[rickbb]

Yeah, sorry I didn't respond to the $50.00 per pound offers on close cut fingers. I guess I didn't understand that good clean scrap is only worth half the yield. Thanks.

No scrap is worth even 80% of yield, the cost of recovery and refining are more than 20% of the yield. I'm surprised you got a 50% offer.

 

[FrugalRefiner]

I'll probably be criticized for swinging the pendulum too far in the opposite direction again, but how did this thread become so negative?

Silversaddle made a post asking for opinions on how much his material was worth. He got a few posts admiring his collection and a few suggestions as to value. Then it all turned negative and confrontational. A couple of you made offers and didn't get responses. Now you want to know who he sold it to and for how much.

If anyone wanted to help him value his material they were free to, and if they didn't want to they were free not to. Some members say they won't share yield data or what they get paid because they've spent their own time and money to gain that knowledge. But you want to know how much he sold his material for and to whom. How is it any different? If he wants to share the information he can. If he chooses not to, that's his prerogative as well.

Sure, we'd all like to know what everything yields and where we can sell it for the best price, but if someone chooses not to share their information, they don't deserve to be criticized.

Dave

 

[glorycloud]

Thank you Dave.

Vendors, customers, bankers, mentors, et al are the life blood of any business.
I am certain that a lot of effort went not only into the collecting of all of the golden
goodies that silversaddle posted on this thread but also to the years of building trust
and the successful business relationships where all this stuff came from.

To someone who has never built a business, it's easy to say: Give me your info.
You didn't buy the field, turn over and fertilize the soil, plant the seed, nurture
the seedlings, weed the fields or help with the harvest. You just want the fruits
of silversaddles, blood, sweat and tears. This is the business owner in me talking.
This way rubs my fur the wrong way!

I get that we are a forum where we share information about the processing and
refining of gold. I marvel at the few who patiently serve the many here who need
so much guidance. But silversaddle's family I am sure depends on him guarding
the sources of how he produces wealth for them and a living. I wouldn't trust
anyone with my sources or my deep business relationships as my family depends
on me to continue to "produce" for them until I head off into the sunset years
of "retirement".

Kudos to the silversaddle for all your hard work and effort that has brought you
this great success! I am inspired to work hard just like you do everyday and
to one day achieve what you have achieved as revealed by the pictures in
this post because I for one know what an enormous amount of effort went
into developing a business that created what you have created.

I salute you sir!!

 

[silversaddle1]

I didn't post the stuff just to show off or make anybody mad. I seen the prices of PM's going up and I thought maybe, just maybe I could make a cash and carry simple deal with someone on the forum. You know, get a fair price, both parties are happy, both walk away. Then I get some kinda rude messages about how my scrap isn't worth this because of that and so on. Whatever. After two messages with offers of 50 bucks a pound I just pretty much gave it up.

Look at the hostile nature of the replies on the thread. I've been gone a while from around here, and I'm shocked at what the forum has turned into. One poster call me a tire kicker. Another demands I provide my buyer. One says there are no speculators on Ebay.

Ebay is a great option for people who choose not to refine on their own. The marketplace sets the price. It's capitalism at it's finest. Don't want to sell there? You most certainly have that choice, but don't ***** about those of us who do.

 

[anachronism]

Half a tick Scott.

There's nothing hostile about saying there are no speculators on eBay. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't make my comment hostile or rude.

 

[snoman701]

You know, get a fair price, both parties are happy, both walk away. Then I get some kinda rude messages about how my scrap isn't worth this because of that and so on. Whatever. After two messages with offers of 50 bucks a pound I just pretty much gave it up.

That's perfectly acceptable. If you wanted a cash and carry deal, I can see where my offer of 80% Au was not in your interests. But a response is still a reasonable thing to expect.

The tire kicker opinion came from a mutual acquaintance who has also made solid offers that you never followed up on. All it takes is "thanks for your time, but I've decided to do something else".

And to be honest, I don't even mind ebay all that much. I watched your listings to see if you'd post stuff. The stuff that I've bought outright on ebay, I've made way more than 20% margins on. Most of the high priced stuff rarely sells.

 

[EwasteD]

Is this lot still available?

 

[galenrog]

Is this lot still available?

The OP posted on this thread on February 19 that the lot was sold off site.

Time for more coffee.

 

[silversaddle1]

You know, get a fair price, both parties are happy, both walk away. Then I get some kinda rude messages about how my scrap isn't worth this because of that and so on. Whatever. After two messages with offers of 50 bucks a pound I just pretty much gave it up.

That's perfectly acceptable. If you wanted a cash and carry deal, I can see where my offer of 80% Au was not in your interests. But a response is still a reasonable thing to expect.

The tire kicker opinion came from a mutual acquaintance who has also made solid offers that you never followed up on. All it takes is "thanks for your time, but I've decided to do something else".

And to be honest, I don't even mind ebay all that much. I watched your listings to see if you'd post stuff. The stuff that I've bought outright on ebay, I've made way more than 20% margins on. Most of the high priced stuff rarely sells.

Well I kinda felt bad when you said you made an offer of 80% value. So I went back thru all the PM's I got on the post and I don't see anything from you. Is there a mistake somewhere? Because if not, I must have missed that offer somehow and I feel bad.

 

[snoman701]

Thanks for the post. It is in my sent folder. I'll resend it later as there was some good data in there for you for the future.

If you got that many people offering you 50%, I wouldn't be surprised if you just cleaned out all the messages and mine very well could have went with.

 

[silversaddle1]

Thanks for the post. It is in my sent folder. I'll resend it later as there was some good data in there for you for the future.

If you got that many people offering you 50%, I wouldn't be surprised if you just cleaned out all the messages and mine very well could have went with.

I didn't clean any of them off. I still have messages from way back in the file. I'm going to look again.

 

[snoman701]

It was titled "your lot" and sent on Feb 14 at 11;17am

 

[EwasteD]

We propose 51.5% of the total value? Do we have a deal?

 

[anachronism]

We propose 51.5% of the total value? Do we have a deal?

No because if you had read the rest of the thread you would see that he already refused 80% - come on. Read....

 

[niks neims]

We propose 51.5% of the total value? Do we have a deal?

Actually prices on your site ain't half bad, you don't mean to tell us they represent only about half total value... Too bad you are on the other side of atlantic ocean (I assume)

Also congrats to silversaddle on a successful sale, but if he doesn't mind, I'd love to hear what actual offer from EwasteD (or anyone else) would spell out...you know, for research purposes ... Also it'd redeem this thread greatly and give it some perpetuity...

 

[kurtak]

We propose 51.5% of the total value? Do we have a deal?

No because if you had read the rest of the thread you would see that he already refused 80% - come on. Read....

And the lot has been sold