w0lvez
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I have a water that contains high level of nitrate, what can I use to turn it to a nitrate base salt? :?:
butcher said:I believe this nitrate water would already have some metal cation, sodium, calcium, potassium, magnesium, Iron, and so on depending on source, (most waters will contain these metals naturally, lets take distilled water (rain), when it hits the ground and it will pick up dissolve calcium and magnesium metals from the rock) so your water most likely contains these evaporation of your nitrate solution would leave the nitrate salts of these metals, or by adding sulfuric acid to this high nitrate water solution and distilling should give a weak nitric acid (if you added some copper it would also help in driving off the NO2 gas from your boiling rig, leaving copper sulfate behind, this NO2 gas if bubbled into water (some peroxide can help here), this would give a weak nitric acid, which can be concentrated up to 68% by evaporation.
nitrates have been leached from urine, and barnyard soil, bat cave's from dung on floor, many early pioneers made money for selling their nitrates, and so on for thousands of years, they have been used to make gunpowders,fertilizers and so on.
KNO3 can be made from nitrate soils and wood ash.
pottasium hydroxide can also be leached from wood ash.
Platdigger said:Interesting.
Do you have an idea of what your costs are of pumping air into that water
(20 gallons), for that amount of time?
Also, am I correct in saying that what you have now, is basically ammonium nitrate disolved in water?
butcher said:the test kit may be detecting very small amounts of nitrates?
I'm 99.9% sure it is not ammonium nitrate because it can rarely form naturally. The simplest way to make it is by mixing nitric acid and ammonium hydroxide.butcher said:I too would expect ammonium nitrates,from what you are discribing, but then again this seems like a lot of speculation, as to the reactions going on in this water solution, your test kit may show positive but they could possibly be just a very small amount, depending on the reaction of your test kit and how it works?
Urine, dung, non nitrate based fertilizers and any decaying organic material will slowly oxidize to ammonia gas. Using ammonia gas dissolved in water or Ammonium hydroxide will speed up the Nitrification Process.butcher said:nitrates have been leached from urine, and barnyard soil, bat cave's from dung on floor, many early pioneers made money for selling their nitrates, and so on for thousands of years, they have been used to make gunpowders,fertilizers and so on.
Wood ash produce Potassium and Sodium nitrate. A drum full of wood ash will only produce few grams Potassium and Sodium nitrate. I tried extracting potassium carbonate from wood ash. It don't even reach a teaspoon of potassium carbonate out of 1.5L bottle full of ash. But the quantity depends on what kind of wood the ash came frombutcher said:KNO3 can be made from nitrate soils and wood ash.
pottasium hydroxide can also be leached from wood ash.
w0lvez said:My biggest problem is I can find a single super market selling Soda ash,washing soda or sodium carbonate. Only laundry detergent and bleaches are sold. :x :x :x
w0lvez said:I know it sounds a little stupid but it's true I ask 2 pool keeper already but they don't even know what pH is. They both told they are only adding chlorine and nothing more.
Sodium Bisulfate, Soda ash and Ammonium Hydroxide is very hard to find here. It can only be bought where lab chemicals are sold I takes 3hrs drive just to go there
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