pondering a question

[steyr223]

I was just wondering about something and
Figured.i should post instead of assuming.

some of you may remember that a couple of
weeks ago I had a little issue with my pins in the cell

if I am to understand this right....

I used a crappy steel pot to do my pins in
My sulfuric cell, everything went great until
I tried to steam of the chlorine .
this is when I noticed all the gold floating
in suspension, before I introduced any percipitantn
and it was gold in color

now I believe I know the reason, correct me
if I'm wrong
The sulfuric acid digested some of the pot
but did not dissolve the steel traces.
when I then dissolved my gold to make
aruric chloride the steel traces tagged along
Now as I begin to heat my solution tosteam
Of the chlorine the steel was oxidized thus
Removing an electron which allowed to steal
to dissolve

this happening allowed the gold to be reduced
giving back the electrons and bringing
it out of solution.

question 1 ) why was the gold gold color and not brown or
Tan powders

question 2) I understand the brown powder is also
Gold in color if looked at through a microscope

is there an actual difference in the chemical
makeup of the Gold we see as gold and our
Tan powders

Thanks Steyr223 rob

 

[Anonymous]

I'm sure you've made a mistake in posting the same thing 3 times in a row within 3 minutes time. You should be able to delete the other 2, if not, contact an administrator so they can delete the other ones.

Kevin

 

[steyr223]

thanks kev
I have no idea how that happened my phone went goofy on me
or more likely I fell asleep hit the button 3 times :lol:

 

[Geo]

ferrous sulfate is known to precipitate gold as gold crystals instead of a tan powder.

 

[philddreamer]

ferrous sulfate is known to precipitate gold as gold crystals instead of a tan powder.

AHAH! :roll:
I think now I understand better WHY the gold crystals that dropped from my gold cell powder digested in AR...; they were pins made of kovar and then the sulphuric acid left over when I digested the gold powder might have contributed to the gold crystals. Hummmm... just a thought.
Thanks!
Phil

 

[steyr223]

Hows it goin geo
Hum... You said
"ferrous sulfate is known to precipitate gold
as gold crystals instead of a tan powder"

Why

better yet does each metal that is below
Gold in the reaction table somehow pass along part
Of it's characteristis or traits when dissolution alows
The eletrons from the oxidized metal to reduce the gold
Back to solids(is this referred to as elemental gold)

For example fe creates.gold crystals,
Cu creates black powder
What would.aluminum look like

Thank you i believe this is.becoming clearer :mrgreen:

O god not another Epiphany :shock:

Steyr223 rob

 

[steyr223]

All these refiners and chemist aboard this wonderful
Form and no one has an answer
I understand if you guys are too busy
that's not a problem just point me in the
right place ,I have not been able to find a link
Or an answer to my questions ,gold is a difficult
subject

And well you know:
butcher, palladium,lino,no idea,barrenrealms
And a bunch of others who like the.chemistry
Part
Or the refiners that have made a true living
At this there whole life
harrold ,sam,lou

Actually a lot of you guys fit into the both categories
And some i wouldn't have a clue how to categorize

Is lasersteve a chemist? :lol:
Anyways im just.lookn for an answer

Thanks.steyr223

 

[lazersteve]

Sometimes the brown powder contains other contaminates such as SMB and metal salts, the gold flakes are most likely free of the metals salts, but still could contain surface contaminates especially if the flakes are in a dirty liquid. The main difference in contaminates would be that the powder may contain contaminates not only on it's surface, but also trapped in it's structure. 'Solid' gold flakes would likely only contain surface contamination.

Steve

 

[steyr223]

Again thanks steve