frank-20011
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Hello everyone,
this is my first thread here...I am from germany, 34 years old and if you can see it on my joining date, I've read here for a while and I safe goldscrap since almost 2 years.
I am not unexperienced in chemistry, I've studied a nature scientific and thus I have a lot of chemicals and safety stuff at home and so I haven't to buy anything.
One pray: english isn't my mothers language and so I wish you: please ignore my faults and my crude english skills....if there are anything absolutely unclear, please feel free to ask me what I've mean!
O.K. I assort my material in different "groups": Fingers and plated boards for AP, ceramic IC's for AR, plated pins for sulfuric cell and so on and in the time I make more studies I will use these time to process my fingers and plated board parts in the AP solution at first, i thought that "should" be the easiest and safest process and I've looked a lot of vids, read the posts (the problem posts too) and the tuts.
I've started a big 3l glas with almost 4lbs of the plated boards and fingers, for beeinig safe and without loosing gold in the sollution I put a lot of tap water in it, only 50-100ml HCl (30%) and ~5ml H2O2 (30%) and ~10g CuCl, let it stand over night an nothing hapend, the slt.solution is almost colorless and no fingers swirling arround.
This is not strange because the low concentration of the chems but I was wondering about some fingers who get silver, grey or almost black.
On some trim eges, solder points growing copper sponge (I Know: the material should bee as clean as possible and so I take of al components and as lot as possible of the solder but if there are boards they are plated and assembled, you can not exclude every soldering point)
O.K. I've started bubbling air trough it and put a little bit of HCL and H2O2 i it...after 24 hours it looks like discribed above again and so I take a few of the boards and fingers out of the slt solution and pull them in a 750ml glass.
I start a new slt. solution which consits of 300ml tap water, 300ml HCl (30%) and 15ml H2O2 (30%).
This is 1/2 of the concentration which I take out of the vid from feeds which is 3:1 (HCl 31% and H2O2 3%).
The rxn reactionstarts rough, the color of the slt gets yellow and then emereld within 10 mins and the first fingers starts floating. I am in fear, it's much to fast, much faster than I've seen it in the vids and so I take out 2/3 of the slt solution and replace it with water...in the stronger part of the slt solutionI put 2 of the fingers from the thinner slt solution and they where dissolved within 2-3min but why?
My slt. solution is half as concentrated like commended....next problem: after 1/2 hour I can see like copper crystals start to grow like in the big glass, everywhere: on bare copper on the trim edges of the boards, on soldering points....and so on.
Why are the rxn reaction so fast? why gets the gold in the slt solution and why grew there these copper crystals?
Thanks a lot, regards, Frank!
this is my first thread here...I am from germany, 34 years old and if you can see it on my joining date, I've read here for a while and I safe goldscrap since almost 2 years.
I am not unexperienced in chemistry, I've studied a nature scientific and thus I have a lot of chemicals and safety stuff at home and so I haven't to buy anything.
One pray: english isn't my mothers language and so I wish you: please ignore my faults and my crude english skills....if there are anything absolutely unclear, please feel free to ask me what I've mean!
O.K. I assort my material in different "groups": Fingers and plated boards for AP, ceramic IC's for AR, plated pins for sulfuric cell and so on and in the time I make more studies I will use these time to process my fingers and plated board parts in the AP solution at first, i thought that "should" be the easiest and safest process and I've looked a lot of vids, read the posts (the problem posts too) and the tuts.
I've started a big 3l glas with almost 4lbs of the plated boards and fingers, for beeinig safe and without loosing gold in the sollution I put a lot of tap water in it, only 50-100ml HCl (30%) and ~5ml H2O2 (30%) and ~10g CuCl, let it stand over night an nothing hapend, the slt.solution is almost colorless and no fingers swirling arround.
This is not strange because the low concentration of the chems but I was wondering about some fingers who get silver, grey or almost black.
On some trim eges, solder points growing copper sponge (I Know: the material should bee as clean as possible and so I take of al components and as lot as possible of the solder but if there are boards they are plated and assembled, you can not exclude every soldering point)
O.K. I've started bubbling air trough it and put a little bit of HCL and H2O2 i it...after 24 hours it looks like discribed above again and so I take a few of the boards and fingers out of the slt solution and pull them in a 750ml glass.
I start a new slt. solution which consits of 300ml tap water, 300ml HCl (30%) and 15ml H2O2 (30%).
This is 1/2 of the concentration which I take out of the vid from feeds which is 3:1 (HCl 31% and H2O2 3%).
The rxn reactionstarts rough, the color of the slt gets yellow and then emereld within 10 mins and the first fingers starts floating. I am in fear, it's much to fast, much faster than I've seen it in the vids and so I take out 2/3 of the slt solution and replace it with water...in the stronger part of the slt solutionI put 2 of the fingers from the thinner slt solution and they where dissolved within 2-3min but why?
My slt. solution is half as concentrated like commended....next problem: after 1/2 hour I can see like copper crystals start to grow like in the big glass, everywhere: on bare copper on the trim edges of the boards, on soldering points....and so on.
Why are the rxn reaction so fast? why gets the gold in the slt solution and why grew there these copper crystals?
Thanks a lot, regards, Frank!