Refining Pins

[copperkid_18]

Can someone give me the entire process to refine gold plated pins? I ordered the kit from gldman off ebay. Thanks!

 

[goldsilverpro]

I looked at your other 9 posts, which were all on one thread. You were talking about a refining machine but didn't get much response. The reason, of course, is that you gave zero information for anyone to work with.

And now you're at it again. If you want any info, tell us what you bought, what came with it, and, most importantly, give us an Ebay link or item# so we can see what it looks like and read about it. I found no refining machine under the seller name of gldman. We want detail. As far as I'm concerned, if you don't do these things, you're 100% on your own.

 

[jimdoc]

Charles "gldman on Ebay" usually has all the info on his auctions on how to use what he sells. It is all here to read also, just spend some time reading and use the search button.
Jim

 

[copperkid_18]

I looked at your other 9 posts, which were all on one thread. You were talking about a refining machine but didn't get much response. The reason, of course, is that you gave zero information for anyone to work with.

And now you're at it again. If you want any info, tell us what you bought, what came with it, and, most importantly, give us an Ebay link or item# so we can see what it looks like and read about it. I found no refining machine under the seller name of gldman. We want detail. As far as I'm concerned, if you don't do these things, you're 100% on your own.

Well, I bought the kit from gldman, not a refining machine! Read this post! I am trying to refine pins, such as the ones on the backs of harddrives that the cables hook to. Thanks if that helps you any.

 

[Barren Realms 007]

I looked at your other 9 posts, which were all on one thread. You were talking about a refining machine but didn't get much response. The reason, of course, is that you gave zero information for anyone to work with.

And now you're at it again. If you want any info, tell us what you bought, what came with it, and, most importantly, give us an Ebay link or item# so we can see what it looks like and read about it. I found no refining machine under the seller name of gldman. We want detail. As far as I'm concerned, if you don't do these things, you're 100% on your own.

Well, I bought the kit from gldman, not a refining machine! Read this post! I am trying to refine pins, such as the ones on the backs of harddrives that the cables hook to. Thanks if that helps you any.

Why don't you soak them in HCL/Peroxide?

 

[goldsilverpro]

Can someone give me the entire process to refine gold plated pins? I ordered the kit from gldman off ebay.

That's pretty pushy, don't you think, to ask, in a demanding tone, for someone to waste 3 or 4 hours of their life spoon-feeding you, especially when it's all been written up many times before, in great detail, and is all available to you for free?

Or, why don't you just use the 18 pages of instructions you got from gldman?

Why don't you soak them in HCL/Peroxide?

I agree. For what you want to do, that is probably the simplest, the cheapest, and the safest of these homespun alternative methods and that includes the gldman method (which is not really his and can also be found in great detail on the forum). On the forum, this HCl/peroxide method is usually referred to as the AP (acid peroxide) method. You won't need the sodium nitrate or the urea you bought to do this. You will need some muriatic acid from the hardware store, some 3% hydrogen peroxide and a jug of Chlorox from the grocery store, and you've already got the sodium metabisulfite (SMB). There are literally 100s of threads on the forum dealing with this process, in detail. Lazersteve has 4 or 5 excellent free videos on the process on his website: http://goldrecovery.us/ Use the search engine on his site for items on this forum. It works better than the forum search engine. He also sells a DVD with more information on it.

I don't think anyone is going to help you unless you at least make an honest effort to find and study up on this material yourself. Consider everything you find to be a gift. Say thanks.

Before you do anything, download free, read, and study the 350 page Hoke book. It won't tell you exactly how to refine pins but, in simple layman's terms, it will give you the best background possible for about any phase of refining you would want to learn.
http://goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=2480

When I started refining full-time, in the early 70s, I had to pay $500 for a bound zerox copy of the Hoke book. According to the inflation calculator, that's $2,390 today. It was worth every penny. Now, it's free to you. Isn't that amazing? Say thanks!

Better start reading!

 

[leavemealone]

That's pretty pushy, don't you think, to ask someone to waste 3 or 4 hours of their life spoon-feeding you, especially when it's all been written up many times before and is all available to you for free?

I AGREE 100%
Kobe,you have been advised several times before to read and research the forum for information.You have not heeded that and have still come forward looking for someone to (as GSP said)hand feed you the information.I will admit,the last few weeks I have had ample extra time to stay on the forum and help,but I would rather help those that are willing to help themselves.When people come to us with such redundant layman questions,it only shows that you have not taken the time and effort to find any information.
I trust you will heed GSP's advice (for the final time I am sure)and read,read,read!
Johnny

 

[copperkid_18]

Sorry, I just was basically wondering what process. Thanks for all the info and I will try to be more specific next time.

 

[lazersteve]

A simple crock pot and HCl works pretty good on run of the mill pins,

Search the forum for crock-pot and you'll get all the info you can handle.

As a noob, you would also be well served by taking the Guided Tour Link in my signature line below.

Steve

 

[copperkid_18]

A simple crock pot and HCl works pretty good on run of the mill pins,

Search the forum for crock-pot and you'll get all the info you can handle.

As a noob, you would also be well served by taking the Guided Tour Link in my signature line below.

Steve

Thanks, possibly I could get one at my local second hand store.

 

[Barren Realms 007]

A simple crock pot and HCl works pretty good on run of the mill pins,

Search the forum for crock-pot and you'll get all the info you can handle.

As a noob, you would also be well served by taking the Guided Tour Link in my signature line below.

Steve

Thanks, possibly I could get one at my local second hand store.

Or flea market, yard sell, junk store take your pick. There are at least 10 at my local flea market.

 

[copperkid_18]

so let me get this right, you soak the pins in the clorox, and pool cleaner stuff -sorry i cant think of the name- and then add the smb which drops the gold (i watched a video on lazer steves site) and then what?

 

[qst42know]

Unless you can convince someone to read the forum to you it won't get any easier.

It's just like in school, Do your own homework.

If you refuse to do the reading, best of luck. Your going to need plenty.

 

[copperkid_18]

Unless you can convince someone to read the forum to you it won't get any easier.

It's just like in school, Do your own homework.

If you refuse to do the reading, best of luck. Your going to need plenty.

Ok, so basically thats the process? as in what I posted.

 

[Palladium]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29035575/Peroxide-Acid-Method

 

[Barren Realms 007]

Unless you can convince someone to read the forum to you it won't get any easier.

It's just like in school, Do your own homework.

If you refuse to do the reading, best of luck. Your going to need plenty.

Ok, so basically thats the process? as in what I posted.

Well no not actually what you posted is correct.

You were told in the post above how to process the pins.
1. Take crock pot
2. Pour HCL, Hydrochloric acid, muriatic acid same chemical it is just know by these 3 main names
3. Add pins
4. Set temp on crock pot to high
5. Solution turn brown after a couple of days
6. Add air to the solution thru a bubbler for a fish aqauarium
7. Watch gold flakes start floating around
8. When all pins are disolved filter material thru coffee filter
9. Wash filtered material in boiling water 3 times
10. Wash in fresh HCL 3 times
11. Admire your gold flakes
12. Put flakes in glass container and add fresh HCL
13. Bring temp to about 104 F.
14. Add small amounts of Clorox till gold disolved
15. Add 3 times water to solution
16. Filter solution
17. Add SMB to solution to drop your gold

Unless you have a couple of pounds of pins to do I would suggest you wait and do a lot of reading. It can't be laid out any easier for you.

 

[shyknee]

copperkid :shock: :shock: :shock: :?: :?: stay away from any processes until your read and understand everything !!!!!


how old are you ? nine or ten?

be safe !!!!! and smart read everything then ask questions :|

 

[Oz]

I am not saying if there is a problem of age in this case or not, but it is something we must all be aware of, anyone of any age can be here. I do not know of a solution to that problem, and I worry about it as much of what we do can be hazardous. Even a middle aged reasonably intelligent individual, if they are not detail oriented and practice “due diligence” before taking a strangers word for it that something is safe, will injure themselves or worse.

I feel GSP's frustration that new people tend to just fall into the forum and want answers before they read anything already here, and some new people sadly think the “potions” they were sold on the internet are fact.

I have found that if it is apparent by their posts that they have not taken the time to educate themselves here or elsewhere before asking questions, that just leaving their posts unanswered forces them to read the forum first.

 

[copperkid_18]

Unless you can convince someone to read the forum to you it won't get any easier.

It's just like in school, Do your own homework.

If you refuse to do the reading, best of luck. Your going to need plenty.

Ok, so basically thats the process? as in what I posted.

Well no not actually what you posted is correct.

You were told in the post above how to process the pins.
1. Take crock pot
2. Pour HCL, Hydrochloric acid, muriatic acid same chemical it is just know by these 3 main names
3. Add pins
4. Set temp on crock pot to high
5. Solution turn brown after a couple of days
6. Add air to the solution thru a bubbler for a fish aqauarium
7. Watch gold flakes start floating around
8. When all pins are disolved filter material thru coffee filter
9. Wash filtered material in boiling water 3 times
10. Wash in fresh HCL 3 times
11. Admire your gold flakes
12. Put flakes in glass container and add fresh HCL
13. Bring temp to about 104 F.
14. Add small amounts of Clorox till gold disolved
15. Add 3 times water to solution
16. Filter solution
17. Add SMB to solution to drop your gold

Unless you have a couple of pounds of pins to do I would suggest you wait and do a lot of reading. It can't be laid out any easier for you.

What do you do with the mud then?

 

[Barren Realms 007]

Unless you can convince someone to read the forum to you it won't get any easier.

It's just like in school, Do your own homework.

If you refuse to do the reading, best of luck. Your going to need plenty.

Ok, so basically thats the process? as in what I posted.

Well no not actually what you posted is correct.

You were told in the post above how to process the pins.
1. Take crock pot
2. Pour HCL, Hydrochloric acid, muriatic acid same chemical it is just know by these 3 main names
3. Add pins
4. Set temp on crock pot to high
5. Solution turn brown after a couple of days
6. Add air to the solution thru a bubbler for a fish aqauarium
7. Watch gold flakes start floating around
8. When all pins are disolved filter material thru coffee filter
9. Wash filtered material in boiling water 3 times
10. Wash in fresh HCL 3 times
11. Admire your gold flakes
12. Put flakes in glass container and add fresh HCL
13. Bring temp to about 104 F.
14. Add small amounts of Clorox till gold disolved
15. Add 3 times water to solution
16. Filter solution
17. Add SMB to solution to drop your gold

Unless you have a couple of pounds of pins to do I would suggest you wait and do a lot of reading. It can't be laid out any easier for you.

What do you do with the mud then?

I tell you what,do some searching and reading and find out what is happening in the processes above and you will answer your own question. Be sure and read up on your safety issues. Not trying to be rude here but you need some research done.

The chemicals used here are not to be taken lightely, I was fortunate when I came to the forum in that I have delt with most of them for 20 yrs or more but not used together as here on the forum. I have been soaked head to toe in acid with no bodily harm because I didn't loose my cool and knew the actions to take. Can you be cool as you watch your pants come apart because of an acid spill on them? It only takes a few seconds for this to happen.

Do the research for your own safety.