Ok guys, I need a little clarification. I have read until my eyes are sore and tired. I think they are fatigued. I understand that before the AR process we are supposed to soak the metals in a Nitric bath. What I have learned is that the nitric, AP and the AUCL3 disolve gold. i have looked and looked for a discussion on the definate use of Nitric before the AUCL3. My question is this...is it necessary to use the Nitric before both (AR/AUCL) processes? I seem to get bits and pieces but never a total answer to my question. So now it is time to ask. IS IT NECESSSARY? (sigh) I am tired of searching and reading for the day.