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[MarcoP]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321723687954?_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

again people causing others to pay more. i buy thousands of these watch bands but i refuse to pay over .15 a gram when i buy them if they are in excellent shape. .9-.11 cents is closer to my normal pay but these idiots bid up 161 grams of gold filled cap watch bands to 39 cents a gram.
thats ridiculous.
there isnt anything at all for scrap there. at best 1/3 of the weight of the band is gold filled then its .05 percent of the weight of that so all told in that little pile of watchbands at maximum 1/20 10k caps you can get 1.18 grams of gold. that is absolutely ideal numbers.
more realistic it will be .8-.9 grams after digestion and refining. at ideal its 45 dollars worth of gold realistically more like 30 dollars though. god people are idiots...

If new, good conditions and really 10K it comes out to have 3.35g of gold which is unrealistic anyway. Make it 9K and used and it should drop to say 2.5g? Why are our number so different?

Bare in mind that I've never bought any because my unexciting experience, but I'd like to start somewhere, so please correct me if my counts are wrong.

Marco

 

[edsikes]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321723687954?_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

again people causing others to pay more. i buy thousands of these watch bands but i refuse to pay over .15 a gram when i buy them if they are in excellent shape. .9-.11 cents is closer to my normal pay but these idiots bid up 161 grams of gold filled cap watch bands to 39 cents a gram.
thats ridiculous.
there isnt anything at all for scrap there. at best 1/3 of the weight of the band is gold filled then its .05 percent of the weight of that so all told in that little pile of watchbands at maximum 1/20 10k caps you can get 1.18 grams of gold. that is absolutely ideal numbers.
more realistic it will be .8-.9 grams after digestion and refining. at ideal its 45 dollars worth of gold realistically more like 30 dollars though. god people are idiots...

If new, good conditions and really 10K it comes out to have 3.35g of gold which is unrealistic anyway. Make it 9K and used and it should drop to say 2.5g? Why are our number so different?

Bare in mind that I've never bought any because my unexciting experience, but I'd like to start somewhere, so please correct me if my counts are wrong.

Marco

161 divided by 3= 53.67 grams of caps, roughly.53.67 x.05 (1/20=.05%) =2.6833 grams of 10 kt gold 2.6833 divided by 24= .1118 .1118x 10+= 1.118 grams pure gold these numbers are for ideal watch bands as well mind you... that is figuring no wear at all, and that the gold is 10kt plumb and that the thickness is exactly 1/20 that why i stated more likely .8 grams or .9...

 

[edsikes]

that may not be the best formula for figuring out gold content but its how i always do it and i usually am in the ballpark on goldfilled items. on a large batch i usually wind up a .5 gram to gram under what palladium winds up squeaking out for me, but i try to keep my numbers realistic not hopeful.

 

[MarcoP]

Then all I'm missing is the division by 3, I've read about it and I always came up with for eg. 161gr 1/20 10K gold filled: [161gr x (1/20)] / (24/10) where am I wrong?

 

[maynman1751]

Two thirds of the weight is stainless steel and springs. You're lucky if one third of the weight is gold filled. :shock:

 

[MarcoP]

That's where things are getting complicated. Everywhere I read they say that, in this case, 1/20 of the weight of the entire jewellery should be gold.

 

[FrugalRefiner]

Watch bands are different. If you buy them new, you'll find somewhere in the fine print that they only have gold filled caps/tops. The tops will be 1/20. Of course, no one ever writes that in an eBay listing.

Dave

 

[MarcoP]

Now that make sense! I'll have to follow edsikes formula then thank you!

 

[goldenchild]

Yep. GF watchbands are my favorite to process because they are very consistent in weight. They are also very easy to digest because 50% of the cap's surface is exposed to acid. Whether it's the large men's or thin women's bands the top caps are very consistently close to 30% of the entire bands weight. I would definitely use 30% opposed to 33% to account for wear.

I would like to know however how GF is measured on some of the bigger pieces. The big pocket watch cases seem to be consistent as well with usually 10% of its weight being GF but I've seen other large GF pieces that indeed have a gold layer bonded to them but is no way the 1/40th, 1/20th, 1/10th etcetera the total weight.

 

[edsikes]

Yep. GF watchbands are my favorite to process because they are very consistent in weight. They are also very easy to digest because 50% of the cap's surface is exposed to acid. Whether it's the large men's or thin women's bands the top caps are very consistently close to 30% of the entire bands weight. I would definitely use 30% opposed to 33% to account for wear.

I would like to know however how GF is measured on some of the bigger pieces. The big pocket watch cases seem to be consistent as well with usually 10% of its weight being GF but I've seen other large GF pieces that indeed have a gold layer bonded to them but is no way the 1/40th, 1/20th, 1/10th etcetera the total weight.

30% is definitely closer i just round to 1/3 and they are definitely far more consistent. when i refine a batch of gold filled whether it is watchbands jewelry glasses etc. i do all my calculations as if it is 1/20 10k gold filled, doesnt matter if i have half the batch marked 1/10 14k i try to buy it that way as well and then at the end of the batch if my numbers are closewithing say .5-.75 grams on a large batch im ecstatic. if its higher, then im really happy but i try to to factor in for wear, inconsistent AU thickness inconsistent karat etc.

watchbands are fantastic because you can prep them at a table watching tv or something and as long as you know what you are buying and watch your costs they are a decent investment.

 

[edsikes]

http://www.ebay.com/usr/goldace1ace?_trksid=p2047675.l2559


i think i spend too much time on ebay because i keep finding these jokers. some of the stuff he is selling he is making it sound like it is pure gold and im pretty sure he doesnt have a clue what he is selling...

 

[edsikes]

i sent him this video to help him understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2ZmugOJ4qo

 

[patnor1011]

http://www.ebay.com/usr/goldace1ace?_trksid=p2047675.l2559


i think i spend too much time on ebay because i keep finding these jokers. some of the stuff he is selling he is making it sound like it is pure gold and im pretty sure he doesnt have a clue what he is selling...

He is very well aware of what he is selling. Whoever buy his items at his prices do not have clue about what he is doing with his money.

 

[Harold_V]

I would like to know however how GF is measured on some of the bigger pieces. The big pocket watch cases seem to be consistent as well with usually 10% of its weight being GF but I've seen other large GF pieces that indeed have a gold layer bonded to them but is no way the 1/40th, 1/20th, 1/10th etcetera the total weight.

Gold filled is determined by the percentage of weight of the alloy in question. In other words, eyeglasses used to be commonly marked as 1/10-12KGF. 1/10 of the total weight of the gold filled portion was 12K gold, or, in other words, they contained 5% gold, by weight, when fabricated. That does not take in to account portions that contained no gold.

Keep in mind, gold filled objects are often subjected to wear, so the original percentage is no longer valid, as it's the gold alloy that is lost, not the base metal, at least until there's so much wear that the base metal is also exposed.

Harold

 

[Justincase]

A new low.
I was very sickened to see some one cashing in on such a disaster.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRADE-CENTER-9-11-01-PCGS-1-of-190-2001-US-GOLD-10-EAGLE-WTC-RECOVERY-COIN-/331538506110?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d313c217e

 

[edsikes]

A new low.
I was very sickened to see some one cashing in on such a disaster.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRADE-CENTER-9-11-01-PCGS-1-of-190-2001-US-GOLD-10-EAGLE-WTC-RECOVERY-COIN-/331538506110?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d313c217e

yeah there are always people profiting off disaster this is nothing new, and these have been around for quite a while as commemorative pieces....

 

[Justincase]

A new low.
I was very sickened to see some one cashing in on such a disaster.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRADE-CENTER-9-11-01-PCGS-1-of-190-2001-US-GOLD-10-EAGLE-WTC-RECOVERY-COIN-/331538506110?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d313c217e

yeah there are always people profiting off disaster this is nothing new, and these have been around for quite a while as commemorative pieces....

Very sad.
a number of years ago a chap was trying to sell memento's from the Irish Conflict.
Nothing much bit's of shrapnel and Republican stamped currency.
It all went a bit quiet and no one heard of him again,some one pointed out it was in bad taste and people would not put up with the slight.

 

[edsikes]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-5-lbs-trimed-scrap-memory-and-2-1lbs-mixed-processors-for-gold-recovery-/271848372256?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4b6cf820

cant believe people. lol

let me take the easy money and post my crap on here for some sucker to buy. i offered the guy five bucks for the trimmed ram.

 

[g_axelsson]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-5-lbs-trimed-scrap-memory-and-2-1lbs-mixed-processors-for-gold-recovery-/271848372256?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4b6cf820

cant believe people. lol

let me take the easy money and post my crap on here for some sucker to buy. i offered the guy five bucks for the trimmed ram.

At least you have some gold in the bond wires...
This guy is trying to sell broken pieces of depopulated circuit boards as rare and collectible! :shock:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scrap-Computer-Boards-Recyclying-Gold-Silver-Precious-Rare-old-Collectable-smelt/271850694677

Göran

 

[etack]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-5-lbs-trimed-scrap-memory-and-2-1lbs-mixed-processors-for-gold-recovery-/271848372256?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4b6cf820

cant believe people. lol

let me take the easy money and post my crap on here for some sucker to buy. i offered the guy five bucks for the trimmed ram.

At least you have some gold in the bond wires...
This guy is trying to sell broken pieces of depopulated circuit boards as rare and collectible! :shock:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scrap-Computer-Boards-Recyclying-Gold-Silver-Precious-Rare-old-Collectable-smelt/271850694677

Göran

... and its brown boards too boot. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Looks like it came out of a VCR.

Eric