HI & Greetings to all.
To say that I`m a noob to these subjects would be a gross understatement, though leans in the right direction.
A little about me:
I was born in London, England, UK, where I am now. I am aged over 40.
Due to the fact that some of us were not brought up, but dragged up, I never really had a `proper` education and NEVER did any chemistry or physics at any of the learning establishments I was ever in. I do find the subject interesting though, as I do, the subject of science in general.
In the only secondary school I was in, (for more than a week), my favourite subjects were, maths, science and metalwork, alas, I was not in that school long enough to learn anything either!
I can barely remember much about our science lessons though, apart from, (upon reflection) we had quite a sexy female teacher and that I nearly passed out from attempting to blow liquid out of the top of some kind of apparatus fixed to the wall (a long tube, (around 15 - 20 feet long), filled with some kind of liquid that ran up & down about 3 or 4 times, open at both ends). The lesson was something about pressures, I cant remember exactly.
We dissected a frog once, not that I can remember much about it. I can remember that we had to write reports of our lessons/experiments, which bored the heck out of me (& many in the class!). Contrarily, for some reason I liked the format we had to write them in, something like, Order, Method & Conclusion.
That was all a long time ago and since then I have a fair interest in a little mechanics, computing and tinkering with electronic devices.
I used to collect/hoard various odd bits & pieces of weird & wonderful electrical and mechanical items, including electrical components thinking that I`d find a good use for them at some point. Unfortunately I don`t possess much of it now. It seems that it would have been quite handy to have held onto much of the electrical components! I think I still have a few pins I cut off of a few CPU`s, some old RAM sticks and CPU`s somewhere but not many and a few old computers.
I play a lot on browser/computer games now and have done for some years. I cant quite remember now what I was 1st looking for when I came across the related subject of Tantalum capacitors & components and the extraction thereof. Reading some of this led me on to gold recovering/refining from electrical devices/components and your site.
Since yesterday I have mostly been on this site, reading, learning and getting more interested in the subject. This has kept me off of my various games for around 20 hours or so, and counting, which is no small thing!
I give respect to most of you guys on here for the effort put in and the knowledge/instruction given. Whether I can understand most of it or not, it`s interesting stuff.
I have just 1 reservation so far and I hope I can give my opinion on it, without getting into trouble and/or upsetting any of you.
Your stance on CAPITAL letters, (or more precisely, all Caps.). I understand that some may perceive it as shouting and/or rudeness or some other form of disrespect and I accept that some idiots do try to use them to be ignorant and/or put down others and such, though I haven`t seen any yet here, where this seems to be the case.
Whilst I don`t tend to do this myself, I see no reason to be upset by the use of Caps. if a person chooses to use them and it seems a shame and unbefitting that such intelligent & knowledgeable people would allow themselves to be irked by such and then, enough to berate people for doing so, further, to direct people not to do so. I have seen only 1 example of this and it was reprinted several times, which seems to defeat the purpose.
It seems to me and perhaps others not so closely involved with forums and the like, a little pedantic and off-putting. It made me think twice about reading anymore and participating and posting on forum.
Perhaps context could be considered in such as the example I saw, it appears that the person was only curious for knowledge and not trying to be rude. I don`t know what everyone else`s eyesight is like but personally, it`s actually EASIER & CLEARER to read than lower case text. I would not ask nor expect people to use more Caps. though, to make it easier for me. There are far more important things in life to worry about.
Ok, my preamble is long, my questions are short.
In this country I have found out that it`s virtually impossible to now get into any small scale form of gold/PM refining/recovering. (I`ve seen something on the semantics of either term, the mind boggles at the time people spend on this, suffice to say, I`m comfortable to just use the term, refining from now on).
1) Assuming 1 could get all the necessary equipment and accrued the relevant knowledge, what is the minimum amount of gold to aim to extract, to learn the process/s well?
(By well I mean, to start off with a small amount of, `base`, fingers, PCB`s or Pins or w/e and all things going well, return a clearly recognisable piece of gold. There are of course myriad variables, but in general)
2) What other book/s apart from the much celebrated, apparent, `Bible`, of Hoke would you recommend for someone with little or no prior knowledge, like myself to learn the very basics.
(I will of course DL & read Hoke as & when I can)
Regards:
Wyz.
To say that I`m a noob to these subjects would be a gross understatement, though leans in the right direction.
A little about me:
I was born in London, England, UK, where I am now. I am aged over 40.
Due to the fact that some of us were not brought up, but dragged up, I never really had a `proper` education and NEVER did any chemistry or physics at any of the learning establishments I was ever in. I do find the subject interesting though, as I do, the subject of science in general.
In the only secondary school I was in, (for more than a week), my favourite subjects were, maths, science and metalwork, alas, I was not in that school long enough to learn anything either!
I can barely remember much about our science lessons though, apart from, (upon reflection) we had quite a sexy female teacher and that I nearly passed out from attempting to blow liquid out of the top of some kind of apparatus fixed to the wall (a long tube, (around 15 - 20 feet long), filled with some kind of liquid that ran up & down about 3 or 4 times, open at both ends). The lesson was something about pressures, I cant remember exactly.
We dissected a frog once, not that I can remember much about it. I can remember that we had to write reports of our lessons/experiments, which bored the heck out of me (& many in the class!). Contrarily, for some reason I liked the format we had to write them in, something like, Order, Method & Conclusion.
That was all a long time ago and since then I have a fair interest in a little mechanics, computing and tinkering with electronic devices.
I used to collect/hoard various odd bits & pieces of weird & wonderful electrical and mechanical items, including electrical components thinking that I`d find a good use for them at some point. Unfortunately I don`t possess much of it now. It seems that it would have been quite handy to have held onto much of the electrical components! I think I still have a few pins I cut off of a few CPU`s, some old RAM sticks and CPU`s somewhere but not many and a few old computers.
I play a lot on browser/computer games now and have done for some years. I cant quite remember now what I was 1st looking for when I came across the related subject of Tantalum capacitors & components and the extraction thereof. Reading some of this led me on to gold recovering/refining from electrical devices/components and your site.
Since yesterday I have mostly been on this site, reading, learning and getting more interested in the subject. This has kept me off of my various games for around 20 hours or so, and counting, which is no small thing!
I give respect to most of you guys on here for the effort put in and the knowledge/instruction given. Whether I can understand most of it or not, it`s interesting stuff.
I have just 1 reservation so far and I hope I can give my opinion on it, without getting into trouble and/or upsetting any of you.
Your stance on CAPITAL letters, (or more precisely, all Caps.). I understand that some may perceive it as shouting and/or rudeness or some other form of disrespect and I accept that some idiots do try to use them to be ignorant and/or put down others and such, though I haven`t seen any yet here, where this seems to be the case.
Whilst I don`t tend to do this myself, I see no reason to be upset by the use of Caps. if a person chooses to use them and it seems a shame and unbefitting that such intelligent & knowledgeable people would allow themselves to be irked by such and then, enough to berate people for doing so, further, to direct people not to do so. I have seen only 1 example of this and it was reprinted several times, which seems to defeat the purpose.
It seems to me and perhaps others not so closely involved with forums and the like, a little pedantic and off-putting. It made me think twice about reading anymore and participating and posting on forum.
Perhaps context could be considered in such as the example I saw, it appears that the person was only curious for knowledge and not trying to be rude. I don`t know what everyone else`s eyesight is like but personally, it`s actually EASIER & CLEARER to read than lower case text. I would not ask nor expect people to use more Caps. though, to make it easier for me. There are far more important things in life to worry about.
Ok, my preamble is long, my questions are short.
In this country I have found out that it`s virtually impossible to now get into any small scale form of gold/PM refining/recovering. (I`ve seen something on the semantics of either term, the mind boggles at the time people spend on this, suffice to say, I`m comfortable to just use the term, refining from now on).
1) Assuming 1 could get all the necessary equipment and accrued the relevant knowledge, what is the minimum amount of gold to aim to extract, to learn the process/s well?
(By well I mean, to start off with a small amount of, `base`, fingers, PCB`s or Pins or w/e and all things going well, return a clearly recognisable piece of gold. There are of course myriad variables, but in general)
2) What other book/s apart from the much celebrated, apparent, `Bible`, of Hoke would you recommend for someone with little or no prior knowledge, like myself to learn the very basics.
(I will of course DL & read Hoke as & when I can)
Regards:
Wyz.
