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Noxx

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Hey guys,
I was looking on ebay the amount of sold guides (how to recover gold, precious metals, pt, refine it, etc) Why there is still people paying for information when we have a lot of this information here (or even more) ?

Do people think they will get better quality informations and tutorials if they pay for it ??

Just wondering... This is kinda weird.
 
Noxx, some people just like spending their money, some might think that everything will be organized to easily understand in what they are buying.
I have been nothing but dissappointed in any that I bought. Especially Megan Rose's stuff. You should make a disk to sell yourself, and tell everybody what they are buying and much more everyday, could be had here for free.
Jim
 
Noxx,

Don't forget that some of the sellers on ebay are their own best customers. Who's to say the guide sales are not being artificially inflated by sellers buying the guides from their own other account names ?

Something to think about. :wink:

Steve
 
Everyone is right, the guides on ebay are junk. ESPECIALLY MEGANS'', however, the reasons I think they sell are:

1. Yes, people want to pay to believe,
2. These books are listed right with the gold and electronic scrap AND
it's an easy impluse item,
3. Not many know of this forum or how or why to use it
4. And all in this forum - including myself- are the ones buying to see what others are doing, and at the same time we are inflating their numbers...
 
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

No not everyone is buying them because :

"1. Yes, people want to pay to believe" (well ok I have to give him this one as he must know better than I in that arena)

"2. These books are listed right with the gold and electronic scrap AND
it's an easy impluse item" (sure but so is both the other Steve and Charles FREE info)

"3. Not many know of this forum or how or why to use it (but aren't you here to change all that?)

"4. And all in this forum - including myself- are the ones buying to see what others are doing, and at the same time we are inflating their numbers... " (while of course I can only SPEAK FOR MYSELF here...I find that statement VERY offensive.)


Please forgive me for being a negative Nancy here but....ugggg
Yo Kitty what gives?
Uggg :evil:
 
i would have never found this forum if i was not putting around on ebay myself. got lucky i guess ,everyones trying to sell something its nice to get some help with out having to pay for it ~ :)
 
Charlena, my point is, I would BET many on this forum have bought the ebooks and manuals on ebay in an effort to learn MORE. That's the only point.

Yes, there is FREE info here, but people put value on what they pay for and not what they get for free. Tell people they have $1000 worth of gold or gold to be refined and charge them nothing they will do nothing. Charge them $50 for that informatiuon to tell them what they have in their very own home. Have them inveest in the information and they will takes steps to do something about it.

As far as me helping the forum and getting it KNOWN. NOT ONE SINGLE person has offered help, info, results or suhc. No one has shared their successes, so there may not be much I can do for the forum. It's all being kept hush hush.
 
NOT ONE SINGLE person has offered help, info, results or suhc. No one has shared their successes, so there may not be much I can do for the forum.

I did. I told you my story and sent you some pictures of the gold that I refined. Don't say that I did not try.
 
I just wrote you a story on the suff i found to. True it's not thru yet. I am currently taking it apart and plan to keep accurate counts on what i have found , get out of it, and how i will probaly do it. I am going to use it as my source material for experimenting with a couple of new ideas. You won't get your info for this project quickly or all at once . Some things are just slow.

Hell their it is from start to finish, Pictures and all. Even a twist with some new technology. Hell people love that stuff. I'm not doing this for you of course. I am doing it for the education of others. If you learn, that's fine to. I notice you at least seem to be communicating some. That's good.
At least it's something.

You seem to know an awful lot about the in's and outs of the information by others. Mainly rose. I sense something their. What is it ?
But of course if you have done the research for this project. Then that would posibly explain it. Got to ask before you will just be included. They are not just going to come to you. It's that the marketing in you again G.W.
lol.

Take care man,

Ralph
 
Ralph and Noxx,

Yes Noxx, got your photos (thanks) but what did the gold come from... just need the completed story.

Ralph, yes I know megan roses stuff, BECAUSE I BOUGHT IT. I bought everything on ebay. Each report each DVD and such. ALL JUNK and rehash. So, yes I know Roses stuff becuase I shelled out voer $200 for all she had and when I recieved the flip pocket book junk I wanteds to puke. What a RIP OFF.

I am seeking MEAT.. Meaning how many fingers produced X gold? An average Cat has X pounds of monolith, and the monolith yield X in Plat, RU and such. Trying to narrow down the FACTS and apply mathmatical formulas.

You see, the profits are all in the math. FInd cpu's for $1.00 each and it yields .50 cents in gold is fine, but it's not fine if you had $1.00 in shipping and $1.00 in materials to get that .50 cents.

You see I am trying to look INTO the merk and SEE if someone can make a better return that say real estate investing, a 401k or even the stock market... becuase THERE IS the story. But if you cannoit make money from it, America will not listen.

I am getting the sense that msot have found, bought or acquired items for recovery, but have never taken the time yet to recover. So, they do not really know IF there is profit in it. And that is what I am seeking, those who KNOW they have amde a profit at it, or have actually seen the gold come out the other side.

So, Ralph and NOxx, I am still here, but for some reason this line of dilaog does not notify me when there is a new post or reply. It only does that to MY orignial post.

And, Ralp you have my phone number...... USE IT.
 
Well i see the post and i will give my 2 cents worth. I looked at the guides and i didn't buy none because i thought they were trash. As a matter of fact that is how i found this websight while looking on ebay and i think Noxx posted something about it and i was like "hey just what I'm looking for." I get most of my gold from working the rivers and creeks of North Georgia, it my no be cost effective in dredging, but i don't know or care, I love being under the water for hours on end and i get gold i can say i worked for but enjoyed doing it. family gets to go camping and enjoy the outdoors. It's a hobby, and the people on here from the posts i've read and the replies i have gotten have been friendly and knowledgable. Now i have to take my engine in to get it fixed so i can dredge this year.
 
ya know i skipped over this post for a month, but for some reason today i clicked on it and read it.

I bought Ms Megan Roses books on Pt recovery, and its taken me awhile to understand what is written in them, and i did not buy them from ebay but directly from the publisher in Parma Idaho thru Megan herself..... I believe she has the information people want but did not put it in the book for some reason or other, in my opinion the books were not worth what i paid for them in the sense they are written haphazardly and not in a technical style i am use to reading..... that does not mean they do not contain information that is relevant to the process of recovering metals from scrap.

I bought the books from her after reading a couple of her posts on the GPAA forum [yes i am a member too of that group of seekers of yellow metal] and then seeking out the information on the web including ebay to see about feedback and negative responses to the books she has written. I too found this forum from an ebay ad, but i was not seeking refining or recovery information as such at that time, I actually was looking at equipment for gold bearing gravel recovery...... although we have other metals and gem stones in the creeks around the county i live in here in Central Idaho, gold remains the easiest to find for me. So after coming to this forum i only found one negative comment about Ms Megan Rose at that time and that came from a fella who builds and sells a machine to recover PGM so was in a direct competition with her for customers it seemed to me... toss out that type of comment and you get no negatives...

Go to the other gold recovery forums and gold mining forums and you find no one has negative comments about her books there either and her posts are rather helpful to the miners around the world. Now i aint trying to champion for anyone, but even PT Barnum knew there was a sucker born every minute and two to take him..... caveat emptor.

Ive scrapped out metal from scrounging it, it aint fun, it aint easy and as soon as someone else in the area sees a person doing that, and doing it weekly the competition gets fierce for the discarded items to the point no one makes any money but the scrap yard dealer, ergo i have scrap in my shop i have not sold and my wife wants me to get rid of it, just not enough of it to pay me to sort it down to the salable stuff and the refuse for what is there. I kick myself for tossing out all those computer components that i had from working on some many computers that died, the precious metals in them would have cost me nothing, but at the time i was under the impression that it would take literally a ton of boards to get any where near an ounce of gold back, let alone any other metal that is worth recovering... now i find that Pd is in all those little multi-layered ceramic caps MLCC and resistors too, that the folks who use tantalum pay for the recovery of those little buggers..... and the world just tosses most of this stuff in the trash cause no one has enough in anyone place to make it worth the effort it seems to make it pay back the equipment and product used to recover the precious metals.

After finding and joining this forum, I find VERY HELPFUL folks here that share information without hesitation, and watching LazerSteve's videos brought it all into line for me of what to look for in the reaction processes. Catfish has shared a couple of spreadsheets with me that he offered to others and i ask if i could have them as well, and both of those brought a better perspective into focus of what they covered. Others have shared books and thoughts that also have been a boon to my learning curve. I learn daily from the posts that are here, and a few times I have personally stumbled upon a phrase or term I did not understand and had to search a few other posts to keep from being confused but for the most part everything is here one way or another....

Ms Megan did join this forum after I emailed her and told her that a fella was discouraged with her product, so i spect she has read this thread as well as others, this I know because in an email to me she made a statement concerning one of my posts, no biggie one way or the other, and like I said I aint anyone's personal champion, other than my family. I am a seeker of knowledge which will help my family set victuals on the table in the long term and in the short term provide me with a learning experience that can never be taken away, because i am just a man, no more no less and I have people who depend upon my being around for them.

William
Central Idaho
 
William,

I must say that was a very well put post. It makes me feel like we all are part of a bigger whole that have similar interests at heart. I too learn something here everyday. I have all of the contributing members to thank for this. This single aspect of the forum is what keeps me striving to bring better and more accurate information to the table for everyones benefit. I'm not in this for the money like some. I don't have many secrets to keep. I just want to provide knowledge which as been kept hidden by many for a very long time.

The way I see it everyone here will benefit by sharing this knowledge freely. We will all become more proficient, safer, and more educated by this open exchange.


Thanks for the great post.

Steve
 
Hi all,

This is my first post after reading on here for a week or so. I paid $2. on Ebay to get in here and are very grateful I did. There is allot of knowledge in this forum and that is what I wanted also. I also just bought Megan Roses Platinum kit and am waiting for its arrival. I was a little concerned about comments I read about her stuff on here. I'm a total novice at this so I guess maybe her stuff will impress me, I don't know, I hope so. I believe it was what I was looking for, it sounds like it has some good info and techniques for the best results.

My interest is in Catalytic Converters for right now. The best and must profitable way to do them. I'm looking at decanning, separating, and having an element to send to a refiner. I have access to converters at a good price and want to get the most out of the converter as possible.

I have seen some things on cats here that were very useful and across the net. It all seemed to indifferent and I couldn't grasp the whole thing like I would have liked. I'm hoping Megan’s stuff will do this it seems she had a process that was very successful in recovery of PT metals. The ratio of the 3 metal groups in converters shocked me the most. I saw somewhere that on average Platinum 500grams, Palladium 300grams, and Rhodium 200grams are recovered in 1000lbs of honeycomb. The ratio of Rhodium was shocking because most refiners didn't pay anything for it or the most I found paid 75% of recovered Rhodium.

I could use anything that would help to totally understand this market I have a working knowledge of it but the refining part is new for me. I’m looking forward to posting and reading this forum more often and will be here for the long haul.
 
I paid $2. on Ebay to get in here :?: :?: :?: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Who , what, and where did you pay this to ?
 
Welcome to the forum Cobraj.

Thanks for posting! :D

I believe the ebay auction was mine. The $1.05 I charged covers the paypal and ebay fees for posting the auction. I made nothing by providing you the information. I actually wrote in the auction description requesting interested ebayers to perform a Google search that should lead them here for free, but some people are still buying the auction. :? Maybe I should reword the auction?!

Anyway, thanks again for joining and posting!

Steve
 
Welcome to the forum Cobra. Jimdoc is your man for the converters. He has done extensive research in this field.

http://goldrefiningforum.com/~goldrefi//phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=713&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
 
Hi all,

LazerSteve, Yeah it was a great deal though. :wink: I couldn't remember exactly what it was but your correct on $1.05 and thank you for the warm welcome all.

Thanks aflacglobal I will check the post out.

Great info all! Super videos too LaserSteve!

Still looking to compile info to get a working knowledge of PT recovery from CATs.

Thanks again! I say charge $2.00 anyway. :wink:
 
Blueduck,
I also was not happy with Megan Rose's books, in the
way they were written. She says you can email her with
questions? I bought the books for the info, not to be having
to ask other questions, that should have been answered by
her overpriced "pamphlets". She also never really says what
the test supplies are, and says they will always be available
from her. Yeah right, if I liked overpaying for everything maybe.
She posted on another forum that you should always get an
MSDS when you get chemicals from somebody, yet she doesn't
even tell you what the ones she sends you are, let alone give
you an MSDS. She wants you to have to buy them through her.
I just didn't like her attitude for somebody selling books like she
does, she should take some criticism from her readers more
seriously when they tell her that her books don't make as much
sense as they should. She babbles about unimportant crap, and
doesn't go into detail about stuff she should. It's a shame because
she probably could have made the books alot better, but I guess
she thinks she aced them, and she didn't
That is my 2 cents on her books.
This free forum is worth ten times what her books cost.
Thanks again Noxx and everybody else!
Jim
 

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