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  1. Nevadayote

    False positive stannous from too much SMB?

    So, I'm reading Hoke, reading posts here, and still experimenting with what I have. I used AP to get some gold foils and then again used the HCL and bleach solution to dissolve the foils. All good! My stannous test showed dilute gold in solution. It turned purple/black after a few seconds but...
  2. 4metals

    refineit-ek-electrolytic-gold-and-silver-refining-system

    ...issue. Anything you put into this machine needs to be a conductive metallic alloy. That means you will have to use some type of stripping, AP or otherwise to selectively strip off the metals you want to recover. In order for this machine to work you need to add additional conductive...
  3. Martijn

    Just a Newbie thirsty for knowledge

    ...effectively making a ferric chloride leach which works basically the same way as the copper chloride regenerative reaction with oxygen. I would do the magnetic separation first and treat that fraction with plain old HCl. This will speed things up as far as copper consumption in the AP, imo.
  4. 4metals

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    I never ran AP but I did do a lot of cementation on different streams of waste. I never wanted to put all of those drums in a walk in hood because I felt it was a waste of premium ventilation space. I ran lengths of 1" PVC pipe up a wall and out through a roof penetration as mini stacks, about...
  5. Refinerjohn

    Stock pot (everything, including the kitchen sink)

    ...waste and whatever else might have been tested out at that time went right into those bad larrys, probably a little spent stannous and AP solutions. They’re kind of a chemical medley of sorts. If I had it to get rid of it went in. So my question is, can I precipitate out on copper and...
  6. R

    AP solution turns clear when heated

    No copper in solution? I never seen AP yellow or clear, just green
  7. H

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    ...process much quicker but then the filtering becomes much slower and the black powder is so fine it gets stuck in the filter. It can be a useful approach on larger plated items such as SMA connectors which I think are brass- at room temperature it can release the gold in 24 hours in large...
  8. D

    Incinerated laptop mousepads- have I burned off the gold?

    The can was probably tin plated inside. Tin melts @ 450F, copper melts at closer to 2000. Unlikely your wood fire got hot enough to melt the copper. Any alloying would be with the Sn.
  9. Martijn

    Next step 🤔

    I would give it one long hot hcl bath, and depending on the color, decant and repeat or decant and go straigt for AR. Or another gold dissolving bath as suggested. For that ten grams every step will add to losses. Recoverable but still. A good cold filter before, and a good wash after...
  10. Martijn

    AP Questions

    ...you came along, with the same 'dive in head first, then ask' attitude. Including me, over ten years ago. We're here to help and warn. If so, apologies accepted. I know it can be frustrating,not getting the amswer you were hoping for. Have seen it many times. Back to your case: That AP does...
  11. U

    AP Colour Question

    ...of foils in solution, and some items look like some plating has been dislodged. **using up oxygen faster than the pump can provide*** are you referng to? the AP? So when the AP is active is uses oxygen and the pump keeps that activity in the AP because it is fuelling with Oxygen? Thanks MM
  12. A

    Looking for direction on how to process these gold items

    Hi. They are not pcb's - they are large copper blocks (hard to see it from the picture). I understand how to process the pcb's in AP. Thank you.
  13. GoIdman

    Accidentally became very interested in PM refining

    I think we all have crossed that road to see quick results, at least I have done it when I have joined this community. I understand that AP process may take weeks, but it is presumably the most foolproof procedure you can make and a clean one too. ( I is very straightforward, and if you master...
  14. Yggdrasil

    Processing sim cards

    Unless you incinerate you will not get the bond wires in the chip. And I guess there is where most of the Gold are. Edit for text error.
  15. Liquidau

    Processing sim cards

    Yes, I’ve seen this Patnor, and salute your efforts. I’m not a big fan of incineration, especially with the volumes I have. But your AP and then Nitric baths look interesting. Did you get a very dark solution with AR? How did you drop and purify your gold from that dark solution please?
  16. eaglekeeper

    Need help with sorting and seperation

    Most plastic connectors stay fine in AP, but I've had some that turned gooey after a while and stuck to everything...not sure what type of plastic they were.
  17. patnor1011

    Electronic boards from cellphone and computer

    I think that AP is good choice for plated boards if you want to do them. It is slow but cheap and solution can be used for a long time and some volume of material. And when you finish, copper can be recovered too. Mainly considering that there is very little value on boards plating I think that...
  18. A

    time necessary to dissolve e-scrap

    Thank you guys for your input. I will perform this 1 Kg pin experiment soon (in plenty of aerated, bright green CuCl2) and post all of the details.
  19. Shark

    Removing iron from 14k spring rings

    They were gold filled and I cut them in pieces about two to three inch’s long. It left most of the pieces whole. A few broke up due to the amount of air pressure I used in the AP. I like to have the air bubbling as vigorous as I can without overly splashing the solution.
  20. S

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    ...chase grams of gold from just fugitive fumes, let alone the flat out mistakes I've made. I've used all the recovery methods. For the hobbiest, AP works. For the person trying to earn a living, but without an industrial facility...sending off for surface leaching or melt / assay is...
  21. Yggdrasil

    Refining NASTY waste... Decided to break from wisdom and do a weak AR bath as a recovery step... Thoughts?

    I'd incinerate/roast it and then try a HCl bath to see if it dissolves anything. If it is filterable then roast it again and go to Nitric again. Next time start with Cupric Chloride aka AP.
  22. Shark

    AP Colour Question

    ...the acid (HCl) can go to work eating those metals away. This has the effect of allowing the gold foils to float loose. This is why I said using AP in excess is preferred, it keeps more solution to hold the oxygen with out depleting it. It is also the reason you see all the YouTube videos of...
  23. W

    Just a Newbie thirsty for knowledge

    Hi all, I have a general question for you all about the use of magnets. I've just about hit 1 week of the AP process with my scrap watches and bracelets. Today I noticed that the scrap is starting to dissolve, makes me happy 😉 At this point would a magnet be a good idea to fish out magnetic...
  24. Martijn

    Sodium Hydroxide Solution Error Help

    Stop with the vinegar and the peroxide. Stick to HCl and copper oxide or -bicarbonate to make AP.
  25. A

    Copper coil with nitric acid and AR

    Yes I agree, but some kind of PCBs as mentioned above have gold plated and I hate to lose some of foils when using AP or nitric, BTW I decided to stop using AP since always some gold dissolved into it and I missed it, I Know that AP will drop gold once it satura I have been asked many times...
  26. Martijn

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    A big chisel helped me wedge up the plastic pin socket holders of PC motherboards, leaving the pins on the board. The same chisel was used to scrape off the pins and comonents. I used a smaller chisel to cherry pick small processors, chips and mlcc's before scraping the pcb's clean. A wooden...
  27. U

    Kleen hydrochloric acid or muratic acid

    Off topic, but should i cotton filter, this AP solution? Appreciated. MM
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