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Darkthirty
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I believe you're on to something. Found my loop finally. Have a look...
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I agree with Shark. It does appear to be S D O. Poorly stamped, at that. He is also correct that it can be run as sterling, if that is the route you are headed.
Sorry, do not know the maker. I did a bit of looking at a few antique sites in Europe, but failed my very limited search.
What is the item? I can not tell by the images.
Time for more coffee.
Sorry, do not know the maker. I did a bit of looking at a few antique sites in Europe, but failed my very limited search.
What is the item? I can not tell by the images.
Time for more coffee.
Sorry I’m late to the party but I think you have your answer already , I believe it’s SDO which is a makers mark that’s well worn and 800 silver is fairly common and is used in many countries and as the US has many immigrants going way back from around the world I’m not surprised you found some of it.
It’s possible it may have value as an item but a picture of the item would give us a better idea .
It’s possible it may have value as an item but a picture of the item would give us a better idea .
kurtak
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As others have said it looks like 800 (80%) silver to me
Sterling (925 silver) can be run "direct" in a silver cell - it will just corrupt the electrolyte with copper sooner then with cement silver anodes - which only means you ether need to change out the electrolyte sooner - OR - start with MORE dissolved silver ions in the electrolyte so that it takes longer to "up set" the balance between the silver ions in the electrolyte & the copper ions in the electrolyte
In other words - copper "co-depositing" at the cathode in the cell does not start to happen until the balance between the silver ions in the electrolyte & the copper ions in the electrolyte get up set
So (as an example) say you are running cement silver anodes (which should be "about" 985 silver or better) & say you make your electrolyte with 100 - 125 grams dissolved silver per liter of electrolyte - you can run those cement silver anodes "relatively" longer then running 925 (sterling) anodes because the higher copper in the 925 will up set the silver/copper balance quicker then the 985 (plus) cement silver anodes
However - if you up the amount of dissolved silver in the electrolyte from 100 -125 grams per liter - to say 250 - 300 grams per liter you can run 925 (sterling) anodes longer because the electrolyte can "take on" more copper ions before upsetting the silver/copper balance in the electrolyte
With 800 silver - the copper content is so much higher then 925 that in order to (effectively) run it direct in a cell you would have to have A LOT of silver dissolved in your electrolyte &/or change the electrolyte out VERY often
You are better served to dissolve the 800 & then cement the silver out of the silver(copper) nitrate & pour cement silver anodes
My point is that you can run 925 silver direct in a cell - not so much true with 800 silver
For what it is worth
Kurt
Kurt, thank you for reminding me that just because I can do something does not mean I should.
Devildog, I am still curious what your item actually is. And its condition.
Also, I sent your images to a nephew in Europe. He may, or may not, be familiar with the markings.
Time for more coffee.
Devildog, I am still curious what your item actually is. And its condition.
Also, I sent your images to a nephew in Europe. He may, or may not, be familiar with the markings.
Time for more coffee.
Upper left of the first picture. Looks to me like brass showing through worn plating.
Martijn
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Well spotted
Coffee time!!! Good to hear from you buddy. It is a basket believe it or not. Small basket with a handle that goes all the way across it.
I filed it down good and it's just the photo. No brass in the item.Well spotted
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Attached a photo just now of it. Thank you for reaching out to your family my friend.
That item could really stand out with a proper, detailed polish. Had I known about it a few weeks ago, when I was in North Carolina, I would have been tempted to take a side trip to examine and test. Now that I am back in Texas Hill Country, no can do.
There is a name for that style tray. My stroke addled brain can not come up with is right now.
Will forward the image to relatives in Denmark and England.
Still time for more coffee.
There is a name for that style tray. My stroke addled brain can not come up with is right now.
Will forward the image to relatives in Denmark and England.
Still time for more coffee.
Always time for coffee brother. Thank you so much. It is a stunning piece. I hate to be the one to put it in the pot for destruction. But I bought it to add to my refine bin.
Maybe I should hold on to it a while longer and do some more research before I turn it into silver nitrate lol
Some silver pieces will bring much more than the price of silver. I sold a pocket knife made in 1855 from a silver dollar and a silver half dollar for $350 about a year ago. A week later I got another one from the same maker for the scrap silver price. I still have that one.
Hey guys a while back I had this same mental struggle. I purchased a silver lot online and had only seen pictures of what looked like the standard scrap with a few salt shakers, spoons, and ashtrays. I was buying based off of weight because thats how the seller had presented the scructure of the sale. No individual items were higfhlighted. So eventually a fair per ounce silver price was agreed upon and the items were shipped. Some of the baby spoons and little ashtrays were nice and i set them aside because I didn't really need more for inquarting, but if need be would melt with no regrets. But then at the bottom of the box was this little pot with a wooded handle that was slightly larger than th epalm of my hand. The first thing that caught my attention was that 1934.1/10.1941 was scribed on the bottom and around that were 3 halmark stamps in a traingle pattern with each being a point of the traingle. It took me some digging But I eventually Identified The first stamp as the 3 towers mark from Copenhagen and after magnifying that I saw it had a small 40 at the top of the towers. It my understanding that is the year. The second stamp was an S with a J inside it in a circle. I found that this was the Master Assayer johannes Siggaard. The third I think was a manufacturers mark but not 100% sure. It's an M with border or halo effect around it in the same pattern as the M. At first I thought the years had something either to do with WW2 itself or the specific invasion of Denmark by Germany. It has no specific number as a silver percent but I thinik the tower Mark itself identifies it as 83% silver for that year. It has gold tone so I believe it is gilt. I sat this thing aside a long time ago and forgot about it until I saw this thread today. So what do you think guys and any advice on taking steps towards finding someone with an expertice in this area. As always Thanks for any guidance.
