Flux

Help Support Gold Refining Forum:

sayf

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 1, 2020
Messages
84
kurtak said:
sayf

first of all - smelting ores & smelting actual metals (like pins) are two COMPLETELY different things

I will say this one more time - smelting pins & the burned plastic - with that flux - will do NOTHING but slag of the ash &/or carbon from the burned plastic & ALL the metals will melt TOGETHER giving you an ALLOY of all the metals --- Period

Second - pulling some pictures off the internet - & then "claiming" a friend of yours did this as proof of what you WANT to be true - DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE --- in fact trying to pull the wool over our eyes with such a B.S. stunt makes you a "liar" --- in other words - I don't need to think &/or assume that you are lying --- you busted yourself by trying to pull such a stunt

Concerning one of those pictures (that you pulled off the internet) you said ----

that layer is gold i already tested it with nitric acid

Please tell me how you go about "testing" the metal in a picture that you have pulled off the internet :?:

Now then - that said - I am always MORE THEN WILLING to help people that come hear to learn about the recovery & refining of PMs

However - I DO NOT suffer FOOLS --- in other words - I do NOT waste my time trying to help people that are dishonest (in the first place) - then post something hoping they will get confirmation of of what they THINK will work - instead of coming here to seek actual advice of how & what works so that they can actually learn how to do this

Therefore - you have two options --------

1) start by being honest with "yourself" so that you can be honest with us - so that your mind will open up to excepting the advice you are seeking in order to learn how to actually learn to do this with real success - or ----------

2) you can continue down this path of seeking confirmation (of what you THINK should work) in which case you will soon find members here will stop wasting their time trying to help someone (you) that is not actually here seeking help but is only here to get confirmation of what they think works

One thing is for sure --- this is my last post to you - unless you are able to show me that you are actually here seeking REAL advice - willing to listen & learn

In other words - there are easier ways to teach you - then wasting my time arguing about something you THINK you know

Edit to add; - sayf --- you need to understand that the internet is FULL of misinformation &/or incomplete information --- here on this forum you will find "actual" information given to (new) members by members that have been "actually" DOING this for YEARS including a good many of members here that do this "for a living" &/or did but are now retired from doing this "as a living" --- in other words - they are ether currently making money doing this everyday - or they have spent their life everyday to make a living (money) doing this --- don't you think you should listen to the people that KNOW how to do this to make their everyday living

Kurt
Well thats a very long list of misunderstanding kurt i think you need to read my post well , if you have noticed the forum you will see that most of the posts in the last 5 months are made by me, if i am not a guy who is seeking knowledge as (you) think i wouldnt ask or post anything
i said that the first photo is from my friend and the others are from a specialist youtuber, any ways thank you for your reply.
 

sayf

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 1, 2020
Messages
84
g_axelsson said:
Well, that explains where he got the pictures from. And as I wrote, ore is not the same thing as pins.

And a comment to that video, I don't think putting a frying pan on top of the furnace is counted as roasting the ore and driving off any sulfides. It's too cold for that. You need at least dull red heat with an oxidizing atmosphere.
Though it will dry out the concentrate, which is a good thing to do before you put anything into a furnace.

Göran

Cant we simply oxidize the copper in the pins while using silver as a collector? Will not that make a bullion with the right flux guran?
 

g_axelsson

Administrator
Staff member
Administrator
Moderator
Joined
Nov 17, 2007
Messages
5,499
Location
Sweden
sayf said:
g_axelsson said:
Well, that explains where he got the pictures from. And as I wrote, ore is not the same thing as pins.

And a comment to that video, I don't think putting a frying pan on top of the furnace is counted as roasting the ore and driving off any sulfides. It's too cold for that. You need at least dull red heat with an oxidizing atmosphere.
Though it will dry out the concentrate, which is a good thing to do before you put anything into a furnace.

Göran

Cant we simply oxidize the copper in the pins while using silver as a collector? Will not that make a bullion with the right flux guran?

No, it's not that easy to oxidize copper. The flux will form a cover and the metal pool in the bottom of the crucible. The only place there
will be any chemical reactions is in the boundary between the slag and the metal.

If it was easy, everybody would do it.

Göran
 

Latest posts

Top