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rodV

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Hi all!
Can anyone.recommend a refiner that has successfully refined these bands? The are all marked 1/20 gild filled top. Backs are all steel.20241203_124532.jpg20241203_124325.jpg Preferably from actual experience!
Thanks
 Rod
 
I pay $0.15 / gram for these, as long as they are the GF cap type (not plated stainless).

I am yet to get so poor that I have process them in bulk, just enough to make sure that my price represents a fair deal.

The response to that price varies by how much free time a person has. Some hear that price and peel the caps....most peel the caps from a few then sell me the rest...some have tried it before and just sell them outright.
 
I pay $0.15 / gram for these, as long as they are the GF cap type (not plated stainless).

I am yet to get so poor that I have process them in bulk, just enough to make sure that my price represents a fair deal.

The response to that price varies by how much free time a person has. Some hear that price and peel the caps....most peel the caps from a few then sell me the rest...some have tried it before and just sell them outright.
I have tried pulling them apart. I have arthritis. Say no more lol. I'll consider your offer ty!
 
Hi. I figured I'd write in since I have a history with these. Everybody I've known to do these bands in bulk sends them off to a copper or e-scrap smelter. When melting, they add copper at about a 4 or 5 to 1 ratio and sparge the melt for a couple hours to get as much of the iron, etc out as possible to get a homogenous alloy and sample from there. You need a few hundred pounds of the bands though to make it worthwhile and hit minimum charges.

The analysis for gold filled bands with gold filled tops only will come out to right around a half a percent gold. With current gold prices, they'll sell on ebay in 2 seconds for 25-30 cents a gram.
 
@ohmike Thank you for posting this, in the past we have seen photo's of bandage wrapped fingers from the disassembly of these bands. Your solution is one which I have seen used but it is not for the small or hobby processor. Nonetheless it is a viable method.

I see you have been a member for some time and this is your first post. Glad to see you out of your shell, looking forward to more of this type of participation.

And better late than never, Welcome to the forum.
 
One thought is to simply use waste HCl from other processes to soak the bands in , the steel doesn’t have to completely dissolve but to dissolve enough to loosen the GF tops making removal much easier on the hands.
Thoughts all…
 
A long time back Geo described a process for removing the stainless in acid but I have yet to find it again. For some reason I am thinking he uses dilute sulfuric but I wouldn't trust my memory in that.
 
These are very time consuming to process. I cut my teeth (and many of my fingers) leaning to refine with this material. Search the site for cyanide leach solution and go carefully from there. It's the most economical way to get your value out of these.
 
A long time back Geo described a process for removing the stainless in acid but I have yet to find it again. For some reason I am thinking he uses dilute sulfuric but I wouldn't trust my memory in that.
I seen a guy on YouTube use pH down pool chemicals to dissolve out the stainless. But this is YouTube everything is not as it seems. Have you ever heard of using that to remove the stainless steel from this type of material?
 
I seen a guy on YouTube use pH down pool chemicals to dissolve out the stainless. But this is YouTube everything is not as it seems. Have you ever heard of using that to remove the stainless steel from this type of material?
That is probably HCl and is fine for stainless.
But it will create a lot of waste if you dissolve all.
 
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