Here's Some Goodies From My Stash!!!!

[modtheworld44]

To All

I just wanted to show some of the stuff that I have gotten since 5-2-2016.I have been told over and over again in my threads "You can't make money refining unless you get your stuff for free". Well turns out that everyone was wrong.Hope yall drool yall's selfs silly :mrgreen:

P.S Can you see the same 4+oz of gold that I see?

modtheworld44

 

[Barren Realms 007]

There are certain types of boards that can be processed as a home refiner at a profit even when paying for them. But that centers around knowing your product and identifying what PM's you can recover from them effectively and making a profit while doing it. You have seemed to learn this part to a certain degree and that is good. But it is the way you present and word your posts that alienates and turns people off. But keep up the good work and I wish you much success with the type of material you are working with.

 

[silversaddle1]

You call that a stash? I'd call it a slow week!

So are you saying all that stuff in the last photo is going to yield 4 ounces of gold? In that little amount? Prepare for disappointment.

 

[kurtak]

Though there are "some" nice boards in your stash Jerry - some are not all that great & in fact are boards I would sell out right rather then process

I am having a hard time seeing 4 ozt let alone 4 "plus" ozt

Not trying to put you down or dampen your optimism my friend - just trying to be realistic from my experience

If I can figure out how to edit & post pics with circles, lines, & arrows I will point out what I am talking about

Kurt

 

[silversaddle1]

Best guess. $1800.00 for all of it at boardsort pricing. And that's gonna be on the high side.

Keep collecting and stockpiling. If you have the ability and room to sit on the very best of it, do it, and sell off the lower grade stuff. And when gold spikes again, you can make a killing on it without even having to refine any of it.

 

[modtheworld44]

There are certain types of boards that can be processed as a home refiner at a profit even when paying for them. But that centers around knowing your product and identifying what PM's you can recover from them effectively and making a profit while doing it. You have seemed to learn this part to a certain degree and that is good. But it is the way you present and word your posts that alienates and turns people off. But keep up the good work and I wish you much success with the type of material you are working with.

Barren Realms 007

I'll just have to take the first part of your post as a compliment and the latter as constructive criticism.I have been trying to work on my delivery for a while now and am self aware that it is still a work in progress.I apologize to all of yall for coming off in the alienating tone that you have pointed out and will try my best to correct it in future posts.Thank You in advance.

You call that a stash? I'd call it a slow week!

So are you saying all that stuff in the last photo is going to yield 4 ounces of gold? In that little amount? Prepare for disappointment.

silversaddle1

I'm going to answer both your posts in this thread and when you answer these next few questions I will reply to you again.

Do you refine your own stuff?
How long would it take you to get 10,000 pounds of complete equipment and how long would it take you to make your investment money back on said equipment?
And just one more to create a reference point for this part of the discussion.
How many years have you been doing this for?
If and when you answer these questions we can start this part of the discussion/debate.Thanks in advance.

Best guess. $1800.00 for all of it at boardsort pricing. And that's gonna be on the high side.

Keep collecting and stockpiling. If you have the ability and room to sit on the very best of it, do it, and sell off the lower grade stuff. And when gold spikes again, you can make a killing on it without even having to refine any of it.

silversaddle1

If you owned the boards in the last picture,I could visualize you selling them to boardsort(who is a..oh what was the term spaceships used in the other thread..I think packager). Then I would visualize what your face would look like after I told you how much gold,silver,and palladium you just pissed away to the middle man.Like everyone has said ten thousand+ times all over this forum,we are not here to hold your hands and walk you through everything and spoon feed you our hard earned yield and research data.We all have had to pay some kind of price for it,whether it be cash for the materials or time spent on harvesting the boards or even down to the 12-18 hour long days spent digging up the research data.

The point I'm trying to make clear here is just this,if you choose to believe that selling that type of board to boardsort is the best thing to do then keep doing it and I hope that you make great money doing it that way.I on the other hand know what the true value of those boards are and will not ever sell or sit on them to be sold at a later date.I will take the time to fully strip sort and refine every single piece that has value and when I'm done will have made 4x over that which I have invested.So see you have your way and I have my way.

Here's something to think about.
Who made the board category's that we are made to sell in?
Who made the rules of what style board goes to what category?
Who gets to tell us what our boards are worth?
Who has kept the secrets of refining from the public all these years?
These are just some questions that I have asked myself over the years.I think I'm going to just shut up now and apologize for wasting everyone's time with this ranting post and step back into the shadows where I obviously belong.Thanks for all the Knowledge you have given to me.



modtheworld44

 

[Barren Realms 007]

There are certain types of boards that can be processed as a home refiner at a profit even when paying for them. But that centers around knowing your product and identifying what PM's you can recover from them effectively and making a profit while doing it. You have seemed to learn this part to a certain degree and that is good. But it is the way you present and word your posts that alienates and turns people off. But keep up the good work and I wish you much success with the type of material you are working with.

Barren Realms 007

I'll just have to take the first part of your post as a compliment and the latter as constructive criticism.I have been trying to work on my delivery for a while now and am self aware that it is still a work in progress.I apologize to all of yall for coming off in the alienating tone that you have pointed out and will try my best to correct it in future posts.Thank You in advance.

You call that a stash? I'd call it a slow week!

So are you saying all that stuff in the last photo is going to yield 4 ounces of gold? In that little amount? Prepare for disappointment.

silversaddle1

I'm going to answer both your posts in this thread and when you answer these next few questions I will reply to you again.

Do you refine your own stuff?
How long would it take you to get 10,000 pounds of complete equipment and how long would it take you to make your investment money back on said equipment?
And just one more to create a reference point for this part of the discussion.
How many years have you been doing this for?
If and when you answer these questions we can start this part of the discussion/debate.Thanks in advance.

Best guess. $1800.00 for all of it at boardsort pricing. And that's gonna be on the high side.

Keep collecting and stockpiling. If you have the ability and room to sit on the very best of it, do it, and sell off the lower grade stuff. And when gold spikes again, you can make a killing on it without even having to refine any of it.

silversaddle1

If you owned the boards in the last picture,I could visualize you selling them to boardsort(who is a..oh what was the term spaceships used in the other thread..I think packager). Then I would visualize what your face would look like after I told you how much gold,silver,and palladium you just pissed away to the middle man.Like everyone has said ten thousand+ times all over this forum,we are not here to hold your hands and walk you through everything and spoon feed you our hard earned yield and research data.We all have had to pay some kind of price for it,whether it be cash for the materials or time spent on harvesting the boards or even down to the 12-18 hour long days spent digging up the research data.

The point I'm trying to make clear here is just this,if you choose to believe that selling that type of board to boardsort is the best thing to do then keep doing it and I hope that you make great money doing it that way.I on the other hand know what the true value of those boards are and will not ever sell or sit on them to be sold at a later date.I will take the time to fully strip sort and refine every single piece that has value and when I'm done will have made 4x over that which I have invested.So see you have your way and I have my way.

Here's something to think about.
Who made the board category's that we are made to sell in?
Who made the rules of what style board goes to what category?
Who gets to tell us what our boards are worth?
Who has kept the secrets of refining from the public all these years?
These are just some questions that I have asked myself over the years.I think I'm going to just shut up now and apologize for wasting everyone's time with this ranting post and step back into the shadows where I obviously belong.Thanks for all the Knowledge you have given to me.



modtheworld44

Jerry,

You are picking at the wrong person when you go picking on Silversaddle. He does more buisness in a month than you will do in 2-3 years. As far as I know he does not sell to Boardsort and if I am correct he sends his material directly into a refiner to have it processed.

And on another about Mario and Boardsort. Mario is not a middle man as you think he is he sends his material directly to a processor. He has (or at least had to) supply a quantity each month that you would take 5-7 years to accumilate.

Make sure you get your fact straight about members before you start making accusations.

 

[patnor1011]

Frank, Boardsort is a middle man. They are buying stuff and then sending it to refinery. That is definition of being a middle man. They do not process, but buy and accumulate material. They do have their cut which is a difference of what hey get from refinery and what they pay to purchase items. If that is not middle man definition then I do not know what is.

 

[Barren Realms 007]

Frank, Boardsort is a middle man. They are buying stuff and then sending it to refinery. That is definition of being a middle man. They do not process, but buy and accumulate material. They do have their cut which is a difference of what hey get from refinery and what they pay to purchase items. If that is not middle man definition then I do not know what is.

That is true and I am wrong in that statement that I made about him. I might even be wrong about silversaddle as well. But Mod should not have tried to call him out like he did.

 

[modtheworld44]

There are certain types of boards that can be processed as a home refiner at a profit even when paying for them. But that centers around knowing your product and identifying what PM's you can recover from them effectively and making a profit while doing it. You have seemed to learn this part to a certain degree and that is good. But it is the way you present and word your posts that alienates and turns people off. But keep up the good work and I wish you much success with the type of material you are working with.

Barren Realms 007

I'll just have to take the first part of your post as a compliment and the latter as constructive criticism.I have been trying to work on my delivery for a while now and am self aware that it is still a work in progress.I apologize to all of yall for coming off in the alienating tone that you have pointed out and will try my best to correct it in future posts.Thank You in advance.

You call that a stash? I'd call it a slow week!

So are you saying all that stuff in the last photo is going to yield 4 ounces of gold? In that little amount? Prepare for disappointment.

silversaddle1

I'm going to answer both your posts in this thread and when you answer these next few questions I will reply to you again.

Do you refine your own stuff?
How long would it take you to get 10,000 pounds of complete equipment and how long would it take you to make your investment money back on said equipment?
And just one more to create a reference point for this part of the discussion.
How many years have you been doing this for?
If and when you answer these questions we can start this part of the discussion/debate.Thanks in advance.

Best guess. $1800.00 for all of it at boardsort pricing. And that's gonna be on the high side.

Keep collecting and stockpiling. If you have the ability and room to sit on the very best of it, do it, and sell off the lower grade stuff. And when gold spikes again, you can make a killing on it without even having to refine any of it.

silversaddle1

If you owned the boards in the last picture,I could visualize you selling them to boardsort(who is a..oh what was the term spaceships used in the other thread..I think packager). Then I would visualize what your face would look like after I told you how much gold,silver,and palladium you just pissed away to the middle man.Like everyone has said ten thousand+ times all over this forum,we are not here to hold your hands and walk you through everything and spoon feed you our hard earned yield and research data.We all have had to pay some kind of price for it,whether it be cash for the materials or time spent on harvesting the boards or even down to the 12-18 hour long days spent digging up the research data.

The point I'm trying to make clear here is just this,if you choose to believe that selling that type of board to boardsort is the best thing to do then keep doing it and I hope that you make great money doing it that way.I on the other hand know what the true value of those boards are and will not ever sell or sit on them to be sold at a later date.I will take the time to fully strip sort and refine every single piece that has value and when I'm done will have made 4x over that which I have invested.So see you have your way and I have my way.

Here's something to think about.
Who made the board category's that we are made to sell in?
Who made the rules of what style board goes to what category?
Who gets to tell us what our boards are worth?
Who has kept the secrets of refining from the public all these years?
These are just some questions that I have asked myself over the years.I think I'm going to just shut up now and apologize for wasting everyone's time with this ranting post and step back into the shadows where I obviously belong.Thanks for all the Knowledge you have given to me.



modtheworld44

Jerry,

You are picking at the wrong person when you go picking on Silversaddle. He does more buisness in a month than you will do in 2-3 years. As far as I know he does not sell to Boardsort and if I am correct he sends his material directly into a refiner to have it processed.

And on another about Mario and Boardsort. Mario is not a middle man as you think he is he sends his material directly to a processor. He has (or at least had to) supply a quantity each month that you would take 5-7 years to accumilate.

Make sure you get your fact straight about members before you start making accusations.

Barren Realms 007

Just to set this straight,I'm not picking at silversaddle or boardsort.Plain and simple,if you are not the person taking the refined goods to the public market to be sold at spot or better pricing you are a middle man end of discussion.

Secondly

When making a defense against a acusation for some one else please make sure you fully understand why the person made the statement in the first place.I never asked for any one to tell me what to do with the material nor did I ask to be talked to like I was some kind of newbie who doesn't know what kind of value his material really has.Thanks in advance.

P.S If he has a issue with what I said then I'm sure he will let me know.After all we are all adults here right.



modtheworld44

 

[modtheworld44]

Here's some more pictures,and the whole stack is of the top board.I ended up getting 87 of the bigger boards.



modtheworld44

 

[silversaddle1]

22 years. I've been doing this for 22 years. I may have not seen it all, but I have seen most of it. Modtheworld, here is about a typical week around here. Not 10,000 pounds, but it was 8120 pounds, accoring to my truck scale. All from one customer, all shut down and pulled from two data centers in one day. I have never sold anything to boardsort. They just seem to be the benchmark on here for street prices. With the little amount of material you have there, no refinery would even look at it. So if you have the ability to do it yourself, then by all means do it. But I'm gonna say it again at the risk of sounding rude. If you think you are going to get 4-5000 dollars worth of gold out of that little lot, you are going to be very dissapointed when you finish. Spaceships, GSP, would you even try to refine those telecom boards at home?

 

[silversaddle1]

This stuff. This is the type of scrap that will get them knocking on your door with a pocket full of cash.

1974 datemarked pinboards from credit card recipt processing machines. These machines weighed over 3300 pounds apiece and we scrapped 6 of them. They would process millions of dollars worth of transactions per hour. Cost of equipment new was of no matter. They had to work right, the first time, everytime.

Sure, I could have refined them, but the buyer offered such a stupid amount per pound for them I could not say no. I know the guy, and I know what he does. He bought these when gold had just hit the 1000 dollar a ounce mark, and sat on them and sold them around the 1800 dollar mark. Yeah, he made money on them, that's true. But I did too. I had nothing in them other than the time it took to remove them from the facility, haul them back here on our own trucks, and the time it took to strip. He made money by sitting on them, I made money by re-investing his cash into more equipment. In the end I came out ahead on the deal as all the other metals from these huge machines more than paid for all expenses in the operation. The boards were pure profit.

I tell you this story to show you that refining is not the only way to see profit in this material.

 

[nickvc]

I like it when you tell us some of your stories silversaddle, you take a thoughtful balanced approach to your business and don't try to squeeze every cent from a deal. As I have said a few times refining is not for everyone, but you can still make money from the material if you know what your doing, yes the buyers or refiners make money but everyone has to eat.

 

[silversaddle1]

I don't blame Modtheworld for wanting to get as much for his material as he can, at the end of the day that's what we all want to do. I just know that he will not get the amount of gold he thinks he will get out of that lot and refining is not always the best option.

 

[Anonymous]

I don't blame Modtheworld for wanting to get as much for his material as he can, at the end of the day that's what we all want to do. I just know that he will not get the amount of gold he thinks he will get out of that lot and refining is not always the best option.

Agreed I quite like Mod I think he's got the "get up and go" attitude that's good in business but attention to detail is necessary. 8)

Edit for bad English.

 

[nickvc]

I wasn't intimating that mod was after the more than they were worth but that you leave a little for others as you don't refine and are happy with your profit, we all like to get the best price we can but we also have to think if there is any meat left on the bone for the next man, if we leave too little they won't be there long.
It's like selling on eBay, e scrap regularly sells for more than it's worth, I don't blame anyone selling on there, the buyers are either ignorant or simply buying gold waiting an upswing in prices but no one forces anyone to bid so I see little wrong, if I had small amounts to shift I'd put it on there.

 

[silversaddle1]

Nick, I hear ya. I know what you ment.

I too still throw a bone into the fight on e-bay. Hell, I just sold a 1 pound lot of close cut fingers over there for 100 bucks, plus shipping. Testing the waters you might say. I'm gonna hold out for the next spike then Katy bar the door as I will dump the "stash'. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Lou]

So far as I've experienced in many millions of dollars in precious metals--at some point anyone and everyone thinks they have more than what they really have. I have done it. You, dear reader, have done it. We've all done it. It's bias, hope, and perhaps most honestly, let's call it what it is... unrealistic expectations.

Have to give a special shout out to Barren Realms for one of the most diplomatic posts I've ever read on any forum and to everyone for not completely jumping Jerry.

If anything, Jerry is just learning just like I learned and many people here learned--experientially, and sometimes that's the hard way. He's been here a while, he's read, he's gotten called out on public forum for both the quality of his gold and what he considers "a stash", this material at low or zero cost basis with which to further learn.

Work on your delivery Jerry and keep reading and learning but realize first that there are people here who know a thing or two as well--they also had to learn just like you and they still are learning. Take their commentary constructively and roll with the punches--these guys don't want to see you lose money on items by having unrealistic expectations. They are giving the advice that has worked for them and made them money. I like to think I know it all and can't get anything off the forum or others' experiences--it simply isn't true.

 

[silversaddle1]

I am not, nor will I ever be too proud to admit I too am still learning. I don't think Jerry is doing anything wrong, and I really hope he does well in his future. He can call me out and ask all the questions of me he wants. But, he must also understand it's a "young bull"/"old bull" thing here and as always, someone is going to get schooled! :lol:

It's all good.