Here's Some Goodies From My Stash!!!!

[Justincase]

"Well worth it in my opinion and the scrap paid for it all,and I still have plenty of it in my back stock for when I need the profits.

Did you by chance check those pins for silver and or palladium?The chances of either are pretty good when it comes to Nortel kit."

The one I picked up was too big for wall mounting. I still have the steel battery rack and power supply I am hoping to sell to an off-grid enthusiast to store there lead battery's on, the rest was Plastic and lot's of cast zinc cabinets. quite an interesting interlock designee.
I offload my base metals to a local yard as they are too bulky to store in any real quantity so I do not haggle, only got £60 for the Zinc, have not sold my stock of cable this year yet.
I did not check for Ag or Pd, but I ran the liquor through my silver waste barrel so any value should have been dropped out by the copper, I also put my chloride waste there as well so even the base metals salt's can be of use as collector's. I am looking forward to smelting that barrel. It has been building up for two years.
Glad to see your collection is going well.
J

 

[modtheworld44]

Heres a couple goodies i got in reply to one of my recycle adverts.

Just got them unloaded and have a lot of work to do... But, the guy said some of it was reprogramming unix stuff from early 90s, so i am quite excited to tear down all the way.

Topher_osAUrus


That's a really good find,those cpu's are nice,but those are my least favorite kind of backplane.Look pretty complete too,what's under the heat sinks with the fans and what is the name on the cpu's.Thanks in advance.



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[Topher_osAUrus]

Those were out of a couple smaller units than the big boy (like 5 ft tall, 400 lbs (the guy said, before modules were installed). I haven't had a chance to get it torn apart more yet, and ill get better pictures of the actual chips. As the one i just posted doesnt have the best angle/shot of the name, etc...

If i find anything else of interest ill post.

 

[patnor1011]

Offer them to collectors. I am sounding like parrot but you may get more than any gold recovered from them. And you will make some people happy too. :mrgreen:

 

[modtheworld44]

Offer them to collectors. I am sounding like parrot but you may get more than any gold recovered from them. And you will make some people happy too. :mrgreen:

patnor1011

If yall guy's want to promote selling high grade materials to other people,then that's fine with me.I on the other hand am going to promote refine it yourself and know what other people are unknowingly selling off(This is my opinion only and no offense intended). :mrgreen:

Now for the results of test 2 and the pictures.

The ROUND HOLLOW SLEEVE PINS are the cream of the crop so far,the batch weighed 62.2grams which consisted of 800 pins and the yield was a resounding 1.9grams.
62.2grams=1.9
454/62.2=7.29x1.9=13.85grams per pound

I'm drying the silver from the Silver boxes right now so that will be posted tomorrow.Hmmmmm....you know I might just set a new forum record,Most useful amount of data in one single thread.Thanks in advance for your time and participation in this long endeavor.


P.S Man..just to think these are only test batches,can't wait to get to the real size batches. :mrgreen:



modtheworld44

 

[patnor1011]

Well, there are CPU's out there worth many hundreds and thousands of dollars with gold content barely scratching 1% of that amount. It pays to investigate before dissolving.
Some boards can be sold for insane amount of money like first apple computers and I do believe that some NASA boards from actual spaceships will be worth many times over their metal content.
There is good price to be paid even for opposite spectrum of high grade - I sold some fiber CPU's for 10-15$ a piece and even getting 2$ a piece is way more than what they do contain in terms of precious metals. Not to mention that no work other than to pack them in a packet is involved.

 

[Justincase]

Well, there are CPU's out there worth many hundreds and thousands of dollars with gold content barely scratching 1% of that amount. It pays to investigate before dissolving.
Some boards can be sold for insane amount of money like first apple computers and I do believe that some NASA boards from actual spaceships will be worth many times over their metal content.
There is good price to be paid even for opposite spectrum of high grade - I sold some fiber CPU's for 10-15$ a piece and even getting 2$ a piece is way more than what they do contain in terms of precious metals. Not to mention that no work other than to pack them in a packet is involved.

If it is any thing like the silver and coin collectors then it is a bit more complicated than that.
People always look at historic records to try and value an item above the metal content.
But the perceived value of specialist collectables have more to do with the collectors them self's than the actual item.
If you can get your item in front of two or more collector's that have an interest or need the item to complete a set then the only limit is the disposable income of the collector. Some are quite literally insane.
I have been in auction rooms with two grown men fighting over a tea spoon, one of whom won the fight by paying about twenty times the value. the quietist I have ever seen a sales room all deadly serious.
It is not wise to base your fanatical planning upon a group who have a disproportionate view of the world.
Do you have access to a community of such collector's for processors? If it was easier to put your processors in a sales situation with two or more collectors I am sure more people would include it in the system.
The auction house's who develop a following with in each discipline guard there territory jealously and charge up to 40% to use there market.
I loath putting even jewellery up on eBay as just one bad client can ruin your week.

 

[modtheworld44]

very good thread, interesting right off, i like the quote " you never know fully what you got " that to me, is revising my yields upward on gold bonding wire chips, also processing more carefully the 2 to 4 Kg lots of same, go get the best yields, some jewels of experience here, thanks.

GOLDbuyerCA

Thank you so much for your honesty that means a lot to me,I feel like this is the right approach finally.

"Well worth it in my opinion and the scrap paid for it all,and I still have plenty of it in my back stock for when I need the profits.

Did you by chance check those pins for silver and or palladium?The chances of either are pretty good when it comes to Nortel kit."

The one I picked up was too big for wall mounting. I still have the steel battery rack and power supply I am hoping to sell to an off-grid enthusiast to store there lead battery's on, the rest was Plastic and lot's of cast zinc cabinets. quite an interesting interlock designee.
I offload my base metals to a local yard as they are too bulky to store in any real quantity so I do not haggle, only got £60 for the Zinc, have not sold my stock of cable this year yet.
I did not check for Ag or Pd, but I ran the liquor through my silver waste barrel so any value should have been dropped out by the copper, I also put my chloride waste there as well so even the base metals salt's can be of use as collector's. I am looking forward to smelting that barrel. It has been building up for two years.
Glad to see your collection is going well.
J

justinhcase

Yes the 4 tiers are solid cast aluminium and kind of a pain to take a part,but well worth it for the 166pounds it gave me.I got 0.38cents per pound,so $63.00.Did your tier have the rainbow colored ribbon style connectors? Yeah I just push all my non gold precious metals through my 3 stock pot system like you do.Heres a few pictures that might shed some more light on how much kit I move.Thanks.



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[Justincase]

"Yes the 4 tiers are solid cast aluminium and kind of a pain to take a part,but well worth it for the 166pounds it gave me.I got 0.38cents per pound,so $63.00.Did your tier have the rainbow colored ribbon style connectors?

modtheworld44
Dang I knew it.
I took them in as cast ally, They loaded up there skip and took it for weighing.
When I was in the office they had a call up form the yard saying it was cast zinc.
I was pretty sure it was aluminium because of the weight but I was in a hurry and they assured me they had used an xrf.
Just go's to show you always have to watch your returns or some one will short change you.
I hurried and did not test my self.
I put all my connectors with gold plating in one box, they are like a monkey trap, they have value so you hold on to them but to try and recover any thing nicely is unprofitable. It need's very dirty incineration and a very large smelter. Probably eventually be sold as base metal dor with P.M. content.

 

[g_axelsson]

Well, there are CPU's out there worth many hundreds and thousands of dollars with gold content barely scratching 1% of that amount. It pays to investigate before dissolving.
Some boards can be sold for insane amount of money like first apple computers and I do believe that some NASA boards from actual spaceships will be worth many times over their metal content.
There is good price to be paid even for opposite spectrum of high grade - I sold some fiber CPU's for 10-15$ a piece and even getting 2$ a piece is way more than what they do contain in terms of precious metals. Not to mention that no work other than to pack them in a packet is involved.

If it is any thing like the silver and coin collectors then it is a bit more complicated than that.
People always look at historic records to try and value an item above the metal content.
But the perceived value of specialist collectables have more to do with the collectors them self's than the actual item.
If you can get your item in front of two or more collector's that have an interest or need the item to complete a set then the only limit is the disposable income of the collector. Some are quite literally insane.
I have been in auction rooms with two grown men fighting over a tea spoon, one of whom won the fight by paying about twenty times the value. the quietist I have ever seen a sales room all deadly serious.
It is not wise to base your fanatical planning upon a group who have a disproportionate view of the world.
Do you have access to a community of such collector's for processors? If it was easier to put your processors in a sales situation with two or more collectors I am sure more people would include it in the system.
The auction house's who develop a following with in each discipline guard there territory jealously and charge up to 40% to use there market.
I loath putting even jewellery up on eBay as just one bad client can ruin your week.

As a coin collector I had no problem to start selling CPU:s. Over the winter I've sold CPU:s for close to $10.000 to collectors, it's been a very nice experience and I've made some new friends along the way. The gold content was worth approximately $2.000 for the ones I sold. Along the way I also managed to become a power seller on ebay. :mrgreen:

There is more than one way to refine a CPU.

By the way, I'm one of those crazy collectors and once I bought a coin at 15 times the estimate. The second bidder had made a final large bid just percent below my bid. But that coin was seriously under evaluated from the beginning by the auction house.
As a collector you seldom regrets paying too much for an object, but mourn for the auctions you lost. I once was the second bidder on an auction 10 years ago. My bid at three times the estimate, I bid $3000, was too low. Another coin came up for auction a year ago, this time it went for $25000, again beating the estimate by several times... yeah, I still regret bidding too low on that first auction. :mrgreen:

Göran

 

[Justincase]

"By the way, I'm one of those crazy collectors and once I bought a coin at 15 times the estimate. The second bidder had made a final large bid just percent below my bid. But that coin was seriously under evaluated from the beginning by the auction house.
As a collector you seldom regrets paying too much for an object, but mourn for the auctions you lost. I once was the second bidder on an auction 10 years ago. My bid at three times the estimate, I bid $3000, was too low. Another coin came up for auction a year ago, this time it went for $25000, again beating the estimate by several times... yeah, I still regret bidding too low on that first auction. :mrgreen: "

I have collected different thing's. My collection of Power Amp's I am told is unreasonable, I kept going until the local authority decided to change the noise pollution legislation.
And call in help from the Devon And Dorset's to impound nearly fifteen grand's worth of rig and lighting for three years. I finally managed to prove that I was inline with central government's legislation but by then my competition had taken over my club's and I had nothing to go back to. O well the joy's of a chaotic governmental system.
That was a good business to run ,only had to leave my workshops on the week end and people kept paying for wonderful toy's.
Refining seems to me to be one of the highest form's of collecting and a way of turning possibly destructive impulses to good use.
You get the joy of the hunt, stalking an auction Lot can have all the adrenalin of a horse race. I had a little heart flutter last week on a lot I almost won but was taken by some one else at the last minute.
Then you get to sort and display your collection of elemental molecules in proper order.
The money is of absolutely no importance when you are in that mind set, it is just a way of keeping score of how you have been doing. the largest danger is your self in such situation's.
I have never regretted saving my money, wait long enough and you always see a better opportunity.
The only time I have kicked my self with hindsight (for inaction not action, I am always kicking my self for my daily faux pas. ) was at a club in London, I had been getting on very well with a right cutty but instead of dragging her back to a hotel I let the people I was with drag me away. Thinking back I am gutted she could have been Miss Head Case.LOL
As I get on in years I shy away form speculative investment's, I have developed a preference for the long hunt. never taking my shot until I am absolutely certain of a good clean take down.
Budget is limited and I do not gamble needlessly any more.
I must admit I do like the coin's you have shared with us very much , I have only seen a similar quality examples in museum collection's. My few sovereigns and Dollars do not compare.
Do post some more examples.
Much thanks
Justin

 

[upcyclist]

I'll definitely side with Göran in this friendly debate. If I've learned anything from being a gemcutter, it's that in the end, value is determined by the buyer--they wouldn't have bought it if it weren't worth it. Even eBay adrenaline buys are "worth it" in that instant.

Yes, this group is primarily about refining. Especially if your livelihood doesn't depend on it, go ahead and refine everything. Just know that you may be excluding yourself from other markets. The collector's price seems overblown to some, but not to the collector. A collector of baseball cards knows darn well it originally came with some other cards and a pack of gum and cost less than a dollar (well, they used to be a quarter at least). Provenance (where the item came from) is valuable to collectors, too, and provenance is anything but intrinsic.

In most industries, reducing the price to the intrinsic value of a given item's recoverable elements is the market of last resort. My father's retirement watch is definitely more valuable, both sentimentally and as a functioning used watch, than the gold plating on it (much of which has worn off). Coins are the prime example--if you can sell it to a collector, do so. Then, if you can get face value for it, do so. Only if those things fail, or the intrinsic value exceeds the face value (e.g., pre-1965 US quarters), do you process it for the value of the metals in the alloy.

 

[Justincase]

I do appreciate the collector mentality, I have a whole wall dedicated to old school Vinyl(1989-today)meant the whole world to me when I was mixing.
Still very attached but have not had the space to set up the kit in quite a while.
I am very glad that some have the resources necessary to buy items for their historic importance.
I just see that as job better suited to philanthropic institution's, if the item is of that much interest may be the world should own it as a collective.
people's infatuation with a number of subjects have ended badly, in the 1800's China and Egypt cultural heritage was decimated by traders supplying the collector market's.
Even as far back as the 1500's people have over inflated the value of object's, I am particularly fond of the Dutch and their short but long remembered bulb bubble.(see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania)
Like any thing it is part luck, instinct and learned knowledge that let's a person do well with the needed ratios' being completely dependent on the situation.
I only have a limited knowledge of coin's and jewellery, I have to base my valuation on the elements I can see. If after research I find it is worth more it kind of causes my system problem's.
Scrap material can be processed and turned over in under a week for Au(takes me much longer for Ag and I still have not sold any P.G.M.'s)this produces a financial current of material coming in and being replaced regularly. This is very good as it effectively increases in size just by turning over even if it is a modest profit you get it returning two to three time's a month.
My collections. Huge investment of time and money. much of it just sat there and not doing any thing. But I am too attached to let them go. I spend several thousand pound's on just storing them.
I am not kicking any other collector, you all evidently have chosen much more lucrative item's to collect that take up less space.
I simply can not afford to indulge my tendency's any more. I have had to be hard with myself or I would be sat in an ever increasing hoard. :lol:

 

[silversaddle1]

Still makes me smile!

 

[Barren Realms 007]

Still makes me smile!

You got the bring up the oldies but goodies don't you.

I forgot how old that picture is of the .45. :mrgreen:

 

[silversaddle1]

Still makes me smile!

You got the bring up the oldies but goodies don't you.

I forgot how old that picture is of the .45. :mrgreen:

Yeah, I was looking for something else and that came up. I still have all the fingers but the tub of pins is gone. I am however about half way there again. That tub weighed in at 110 pounds if I remember correctly. And those were all fully plated pins!

 

[modtheworld44]

Hey Yall!

I'm sorry I haven't posted the silver yield yet,it kinda got froze up in my crucible and right now I am to busy to fix it.I will come back to it at a later time,am having to fast track the rest of the yield data for the remaining gold plated pins.I will have the rest run by tomorrow night,I'm putting them through the M44 process and will give the yields across all 16 backplanes when I'm done.This will be for the rest of the gold plated pins done all in one batch,should not take more than 8 hours tops.

I got 2 new contracts,one Wednesday and one yesterday.

Wednesday's contract.

Misc Personal Computers 475#x0.15=$71.25
Misc Servers 1,059#x0.20=$211.80
Backplane Board 12#x2.30=$27.60
Balance due in two weeks $310.65

Thursday's Contract.

Misc Servers 1,189#x0.20=$237.80
Balance due in two weeks $237.80

Here's some pictures of the two loads,let me know if you think I got a good deal or not.Thanks in advance.


P.S If yall are interested I can post some more Pictures of the boards that came out of the Thursday load,which is last two pictures.



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[Barren Realms 007]

You should do ok at those prices. Pictures are always nice.

 

[modtheworld44]

Here's a few of the boards,I'll lay out the rest in the morning and take another group picture.I got two servers that had almost the same exact boards,not pictured is the memory module expansion planes that had 8 sticks per plane and two planes per unit.Thanks in advance and enjoy.



P.S I got 7 of the i960 boards.



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[modtheworld44]

Here's the rest of the pictures,some of the pins on these have that deep orange color.I have always had great yields from this color of pin,and expect the same with these.I feel kinda at a loss of words right now,so many views but the number of posts.....




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