Here's Some Goodies From My Stash!!!!

[Barren Realms 007]

Here's the rest of the pictures,some of the pins on these have that deep orange color.I have always had great yields from this color of pin,and expect the same with these.I feel kinda at a loss of words right now,so many views but the number of posts.....




modtheworld44

Not really cream of the crop material. Just fairly good for a home refiner. Gt you are trying.

 

[modtheworld44]

Here's the rest of the pictures,some of the pins on these have that deep orange color.I have always had great yields from this color of pin,and expect the same with these.I feel kinda at a loss of words right now,so many views but the number of posts.....




modtheworld44

Not really cream of the crop material. Just fairly good for a home refiner. Gt you are trying.

Barren Realms 007

Let me guess,that's the type of material that you would sell to a board company?

What would you do with these spacer guide pins? I really would be interested to know.Maybe you could show us some of your cream of the crop stuff since mine doesn't fit the criteria.Thanks in advance.



modtheworld44

 

[Barren Realms 007]

Here's the rest of the pictures,some of the pins on these have that deep orange color.I have always had great yields from this color of pin,and expect the same with these.I feel kinda at a loss of words right now,so many views but the number of posts.....




modtheworld44

Not really cream of the crop material. Just fairly good for a home refiner. Gt you are trying.

Barren Realms 007

Let me guess,that's the type of material that you would sell to a board company?

What would you do with these spacer guide pins? I really would be interested to know.Maybe you could show us some of your cream of the crop stuff since mine doesn't fit the criteria.Thanks in advance.



modtheworld44

I would process those connectors in poor mans AR after doing a sample to make sure the plastic doesn't turn to crap in solution.

I might sell the boards, I might process the boards, I might even ebay to suckers. I just like looking at different boards. But I don't try and make a silk purse lining out of them like they are gods gift of a miracle. Please quit trying to think I am downgrading your boards when I make broad statements about them. It takes quite a nice board to get me to ohh and ahh over a board.

 

[modtheworld44]

UPDATE!!!!



Here's a picture of the pin's being run in the M44 process,and one of the left over foils.Yes left over,part were dissolved in Hcl/Cl before I realized the foils were way to thick to do it that way.I will be doing the rest in poormans AR.If yall want to you can give some yield guess's, but that's up to yall.That's a 12inch diameter on the cullender by the way.Thanks in advance.



modtheworld44

 

[modtheworld44]

Yield Update!!!!


This is from the left over gold foils in previous picture.The other will be dropped shortly.The yield was 6.6grams dirty,so with the quick batch gold=8.9grams so far across the 16 backplanes.Well that in my opinion makes these boards worth keeping.I figure the overall total will be 12-15grams refined gold.If yall want to keep selling your telecom boards be my guest,but myself I would rather have the gold.Thanks in advance.



modtheworld44

 

[richard2013]

Thank you for sharing modtheworld44

 

[modtheworld44]

Thank you for sharing modtheworld44

richard2013

Your welcome, and thank you for choosing not to just be another number in the views column.I will try to have some more yields tomorrow,we had rain today so I'm a little behind.Thanks in advance.



modtheworld44

 

[silversaddle1]

Just remember a few things. My time is worth something. My facilities are worth something. Equipment to refine cost money. Chemicals cost money. So, by the time you figure all that into the end value of the material, it's a wash. And one more thing. Those pins you just refined are easy. The rest will be harder.

For some reason you seem to think that the guy selling his boards to a middleman is getting screwed. You keep saying that. Yet many people here do exactly that, and make money on the deal a hell of a lot faster than you do. When you are messing around with little loads like the one you had, I guess you can take the time to try to refine every little piece of it. But when you get loads like that one on a daily basis, you would loose money screwing with the refining part.

Turn it over and move on. Works for some, but not all, and that's fine. I'm glad you are getting some gold!

 

[jason_recliner]

Safety Announcement:
To anyone new (or fundamentally careless) reading, that is Mountain Dew in that bottle of Mountain Dew.

The following should be obvious to sensible people, and I am quite sure mod44 is one of them. But since this thread now shows images of both copper chloride leach and Mountain Dew, which are a scarily similar colour, it needs to be pointed out.

NEVER EVER EVER, even if you are the only one handling them, NEVER store these chemicals into a container labelled as food / drink.
Thank you for your attention.

 

[silversaddle1]

I think the bottle of soda was just to give us an idea of how big the connectors are. I don't see anywhere where he stored his chems on a Mountain Dew bottle.

 

[modtheworld44]

Just remember a few things. My time is worth something. My facilities are worth something. Equipment to refine cost money. Chemicals cost money. So, by the time you figure all that into the end value of the material, it's a wash. And one more thing. Those pins you just refined are easy. The rest will be harder.

For some reason you seem to think that the guy selling his boards to a middleman is getting screwed. You keep saying that. Yet many people here do exactly that, and make money on the deal a hell of a lot faster than you do. When you are messing around with little loads like the one you had, I guess you can take the time to try to refine every little piece of it. But when you get loads like that one on a daily basis, you would loose money screwing with the refining part.

Turn it over and move on. Works for some, but not all, and that's fine. I'm glad you are getting some gold!

silversaddle1


If your going to keep making posts directed at me like this then expect the same in return.

The red indicates a broken record,and the fact that all you can do is repeat the same old crap.Sounds like you are trying to explain things about what a Refiner should know,when your not a refiner and have said so yourself.


The blue indicates words that were and Never have been said,but can be if that fits your fancy.

If you want to do a refiner vs board seller cost basis analysis,then post it so we can see things from your side.My bad you can't because you would need to be both.You shouldn't talk about things you don't know,I find it the best practice in life.

To the moderators,

I feel like I have been purposely attacked yet again in one of my threads.I feel that I have followed all the rules of the forum over the years and put up with a whole lot of crap in that time.I have watched people Flame me,ridicule me,and talk much crap to me.I will not continue to share my hard earned data with the forum if this is allowed to continue this time around.I do not feel safe to come here and post without this happening to me.Thanks in advance.



modtheworld44

 

[jason_recliner]

I don't see anywhere where he stored his chems on a Mountain Dew bottle.

Indeed not, and I did attempt to point that out. Not at all intended toward you, Jerry.

My post was intended for the passing reader who might see that identical green and not realise at first glance exactly what it was, considering the subsequent image of leach. I just don't want the chance for anyone to even THINK that it's ok to store in food containers.

Some may dismiss me as overly cautious but safety with our chemicals is something we must all take seriously, given their generally unforgiving nature. We've recently heard how one man strayed from safe practise and barely managed to escape with his life. However I have a good friend whose father was not so lucky a couple of Decembers ago, never regained consciousness, and finally, tragically, died on Christmas morning.

Thus I unrepentantly advocate against even the chance or hint of poor labelling and handling practise.
Anyway, enough of my thread hijack, I didn't mean this to become a big thing. Now back to your regular programme...

 

[modtheworld44]

I don't see anywhere where he stored his chems on a Mountain Dew bottle.

Indeed not, and I did attempt to point that out. Not at all intended toward you, Jerry.

My post was intended for the passing reader who might see that identical green and not realise at first glance exactly what it was, considering the subsequent image of leach. I just don't want the chance for anyone to even THINK that it's ok to store in food containers.

Some may dismiss me as overly cautious but safety with our chemicals is something we must all take seriously, given their generally unforgiving nature. We've recently heard how one man strayed from safe practise and barely managed to escape with his life. However I have a good friend whose father was not so lucky a couple of Decembers ago, never regained consciousness, and finally, tragically, died on Christmas morning.

Thus I unrepentantly advocate against even the chance or hint of poor labelling and handling practise.
Anyway, enough of my thread hijack, I didn't mean this to become a big thing. Now back to your regular programme...

jason_recliner


Safety is the number one tool we should always use when refining.I should have clarified the points about safety that you already did.Thank you for taking the time to do so for us.



modtheworld44

 

[silversaddle1]

If your going to keep making posts directed at me like this then expect the same in return.

The red indicates a broken record,and the fact that all you can do is repeat the same old crap.Sounds like you are trying to explain things about what a Refiner should know,when your not a refiner and have said so yourself.





The blue indicates words that were and Never have been said,but can be if that fits your fancy.

If you want to do a refiner vs board seller cost basis analysis,then post it so we can see things from your side.My bad you can't because you would need to be both.You shouldn't talk about things you don't know,I find it the best practice in life.

To the moderators,

I feel like I have been purposely attacked yet again in one of my threads.I feel that I have followed all the rules of the forum over the years and put up with a whole lot of crap in that time.I have watched people Flame me,ridicule me,and talk much crap to me.I will not continue to share my hard earned data with the forum if this is allowed to continue this time around.I do not feel safe to come here and post without this happening to me.Thanks in advance.

Mod,

What you see as an attack on you most will see as a attempt to teach you something. No one is attacking you, no one.

You come across as being a arrogant person who seems to think no body else knows anything. You post a bunch of photos of some average stuff you came across and try to tell us how you are going to get 5 grand worth of gold out of it? We all know better, yet you won't listen.

And you are right, I don't refine. I don't have to. Next time you can ship 48,000 pounds of boards to a refiner, or "middleman", come back and talk to me about how to make money. I do know what I'm talking about.

What you fail to understand is that not all middlemen just turn over scrap for a quick profit. I have buyers that will pay above spot, and sit on tons of scrap just waiting for the next spike. Then they in turn sell at a profit. You see, those guys have learned how to make big money without even touching the material. And all the time they are sitting on that load, I'm operating on their money and stockpiling another load. And I would be willing to bet money on the fact that I made more money on those boards than you would have had you refined them. And not because your a bad refiner, but because after you figure in all the overhead, there's nothing left to be made.

So if you still see these comments as "attacks" then so be it. I'm sorry you feel that way.

 

[FrugalRefiner]

For some reason you seem to think that the guy selling his boards to a middleman is getting screwed. You keep saying that.

The blue indicates words that were and Never have been said,but can be if that fits your fancy.

Perhaps you should review your second post in this thread, in which you said:

If you owned the boards in the last picture,I could visualize you selling them to boardsort(who is a..oh what was the term spaceships used in the other thread..I think packager). Then I would visualize what your face would look like after I told you how much gold,silver,and palladium you just pissed away to the middle man.

They may be different words, but they mean the same thing to me.

To the moderators,

I feel like I have been purposely attacked yet again in one of my threads.I feel that I have followed all the rules of the forum over the years and put up with a whole lot of crap in that time.I have watched people Flame me,ridicule me,and talk much crap to me.I will not continue to share my hard earned data with the forum if this is allowed to continue this time around.I do not feel safe to come here and post without this happening to me.Thanks in advance.

modtheworld, there is a pattern to many of your threads. In several threads, you have showed pictures of things you have bought and asked other members for their opinion of the value. When they share their opinions, you disagree and say things that are upsetting to them. You asked for their opinions, they've shared them, and instead of saying thanks for taking the time to respond, you get upset.

No one has attacked you, flamed you, ridiculed you, or talked crap to you in this thread. If you don't want to post here, no one is forcing you to.

No one likes to be criticized, myself included. But if you post, and ask others' opinions, you are bound to receive some criticism. If you can't deal with that, don't keep asking for others' opinions.

Dave

 

[jeneje]

As a home refiner, 99.9% of all boards we come across will be low-grade to average boards. There are those few, on occasion that will slip by and find their way to the home-refiner and be considered high-end. High-end boards come from mostly Military, NASA, Aerospace, and medical.

Electronics that are sold to the general public DO NOT fall into the high-end category.

Ken

 

[patnor1011]

It is futile to discuss what is high end. Everyone perceive it differently. Even different buyers do have different understanding and categories.
Me personally would consider laptop motherboards as better than average or even consider them high end compared to desktop motherboards. They are smaller, lighter and more densely populated. Even pins are smaller and kilogram of them outperform kilogram of desktop motherboard pins multiple times.

 

[Luis]

As a regular scrapper I do not have access to military or space scrap. From 5 to 8 calls at least one or two bring some commercial equipment or private medical. Some servers and telecom. but as time passes is harder to find old stuff. that is why I am collecting everything worth an storing sorted material for last three years. Like Pathnor says, laptops are part of the good stuff urban miners have access. rest of peripheral, low grade, regular eye prom type chips, copper and aluminum are going to scrap yard and sell to keep founding the operation. What will be the next future material for gold recovery as good boards will be little by little disappearing? To Get metal detector for buried gold? regards Luis

 

[silversaddle1]

Age is always a good measure to figure what will contain higher grade material. As a general rule, the older, the better. But that is not always true, as there is still some pretty good stuff being manufactured to this day. Mod's stuff he posted to start the thread was ok to good stuff, better than average. One reason is it was enterprise equipment and that type of equipment will always have better yields. Not the 4+ ounces he was hoping for, but still good stuff. But the real good stuff is in about every computer out there. Hard drive boards and gold edge memory is pretty good stuff. And we get it every time we scrap a computer. The problem with it is it takes many computers to get enough to make it worthwhile to refine. The upside is it's yields are far better than motherboards, finger cards, etc. Want to impress me, roll out 4-500 pounds of hard drive boards. That will get my attention.

High grade boards are out there, and a good buyer will know them when they see them and will pay top dollar to buy them. The art it to know what they are looking for and sort your boards well. The better you sort your boards, the better the price will be when your buyer comes around.

I've done it both ways plenty of times, refiner or buyer. I like the buyer as it's quick, and there is no hassles about return numbers. But, I have also had lots from large telecom switches and bridges that went directly to the refiner. The refiner route makes a little better money, but there is more work involved in the process. My main buyer, well, cash in hand rules sometimes. :mrgreen:

 

[jeneje]

As a regular scrapper I do not have access to military or space scrap.

That is my point. Neither does the majority of the members on this forum. A select few may have access to this type of material and it took a long time for them to get in and build a relationship to gain access to the material they are getting.

Patnor makes a valid point on what is High-end, but there is no standard for the refining industry on boards that I know of. When desktops first came out all boards were green, now they come in several different colors and each color seems to have a different selling price.

As for server banks and telecom boards the urban refiner will not see much of those, or at least I don't here in TN. Companies that have this type of equipment to get rid of, pay E-waste companies to come in and remove them and those companies strip the boards, cpu's, ram, HD's out and sell to a major refinery or to the highest bidder overseas.

To bid and buy boards is risky at best without having an assay done on the material to see where you need to be when pricing. Are there times when you can look and get a deal "yes" but those are far and few between in today's market. Everybody wants top dollar for what they have or they over price their material and you just can not buy and make anything on it.

Yeah, a gold button looks great, but at what cost did you have to spend to get it. That is the question?

Ken