Here's Some Goodies From My Stash!!!!

[Anonymous]

To be honest I'm only "hard on him" because I know he's got what it takes to do better so it's actually more of a back handed compliment. :shock:

Jon

 

[Barren Realms 007]

So far as I've experienced in many millions of dollars in precious metals--at some point anyone and everyone thinks they have more than what they really have. I have done it. You, dear reader, have done it. We've all done it. It's bias, hope, and perhaps most honestly, let's call it what it is... unrealistic expectations.

Have to give a special shout out to Barren Realms for one of the most diplomatic posts I've ever read on any forum and to everyone for not completely jumping Jerry.

If anything, Jerry is just learning just like I learned and many people here learned--experientially, and sometimes that's the hard way. He's been here a while, he's read, he's gotten called out on public forum for both the quality of his gold and what he considers "a stash", this material at low or zero cost basis with which to further learn.

Work on your delivery Jerry and keep reading and learning but realize first that there are people here who know a thing or two as well--they also had to learn just like you and they still are learning. Take their commentary constructively and roll with the punches--these guys don't want to see you lose money on items by having unrealistic expectations. They are giving the advice that has worked for them and made them money. I like to think I know it all and can't get anything off the forum or others' experiences--it simply isn't true.

Thank you Lou. That really means a lot to me coming from you.

 

[modtheworld44]

I like it when you tell us some of your stories silversaddle, you take a thoughtful balanced approach to your business and don't try to squeeze every cent from a deal. As I have said a few times refining is not for everyone, but you can still make money from the material if you know what your doing, yes the buyers or refiners make money but everyone has to eat.

nickvc

I actually agree with you,refining isn't for everyone.I also agree that you can make money selling boards.You see I never said I don't sell my boards,I said I don't sell that type of board.I sell all mother board category's starting from large multi socket to single metal socket.That is how I pay for my contracts.I always make sure to feed the people that I come into contact with concerning this business.I honestly could not live with myself or sleep good at night knowing that I hadn't been true to my ethics and values.I can see were yall might think that greed is what is driving me,but I can assure you that greed has no place in my life and hasn't for many years.

22 years. I've been doing this for 22 years. I may have not seen it all, but I have seen most of it. Modtheworld, here is about a typical week around here. Not 10,000 pounds, but it was 8120 pounds, accoring to my truck scale. All from one customer, all shut down and pulled from two data centers in one day. I have never sold anything to boardsort. They just seem to be the benchmark on here for street prices. With the little amount of material you have there, no refinery would even look at it. So if you have the ability to do it yourself, then by all means do it. But I'm gonna say it again at the risk of sounding rude. If you think you are going to get 4-5000 dollars worth of gold out of that little lot, you are going to be very dissapointed when you finish. Spaceships, GSP, would you even try to refine those telecom boards at home?

silversaddle1

I see that you have come back and added the rest of the answers to my questions,except for how long it took to break it down to the point of(the boards being saleable and all the ferrous metals being stripped away). That's ok though because it's enough to get this discussion started on the right footing,but first I owe you something...

I want to whole heartedly apologize for making you feel like this was an open forum call-out or attack on you and or your character.That was NOT my intent,I have great respect for all our members even though we may never see eye to eye.I am a highly passive neutral person with the inability to properly convey my thoughts into written words and try to not create conflict or rifts between me and people I interact with.So I'm sorry for putting you on the spot like this.Giving your opinion on whether or not you see the same 4+oz of gold was what I asked for in my OP.So since that is what your doing,I have NO right to consider or any notion what so ever to think or say you are being rude in any shape,form,or fashion.

This stuff. This is the type of scrap that will get them knocking on your door with a pocket full of cash.

1974 datemarked pinboards from credit card recipt processing machines. These machines weighed over 3300 pounds apiece and we scrapped 6 of them. They would process millions of dollars worth of transactions per hour. Cost of equipment new was of no matter. They had to work right, the first time, everytime.

Sure, I could have refined them, but the buyer offered such a stupid amount per pound for them I could not say no. I know the guy, and I know what he does. He bought these when gold had just hit the 1000 dollar a ounce mark, and sat on them and sold them around the 1800 dollar mark. Yeah, he made money on them, that's true. But I did too. I had nothing in them other than the time it took to remove them from the facility, haul them back here on our own trucks, and the time it took to strip. He made money by sitting on them, I made money by re-investing his cash into more equipment. In the end I came out ahead on the deal as all the other metals from these huge machines more than paid for all expenses in the operation. The boards were pure profit.

I tell you this story to show you that refining is not the only way to see profit in this material.

silversaddle1

I assure you that your words of wisdom and value have not fallen on blind eyes.Although my primary side of this business is refining,there might come a day in the distant future where I decide not to do refining any more and then I can use the knowledge that you have given me in this thread.I always look at the profit from both sides and use the side that will move me closer to my end goal the fastest first.Thank you for sharing your side with us.

I don't blame Modtheworld for wanting to get as much for his material as he can, at the end of the day that's what we all want to do. I just know that he will not get the amount of gold he thinks he will get out of that lot and refining is not always the best option.

silversaddle1

It's just the high end stuff that I care about getting the most out of.

I am not, nor will I ever be too proud to admit I too am still learning. I don't think Jerry is doing anything wrong, and I really hope he does well in his future. He can call me out and ask all the questions of me he wants. But, he must also understand it's a "young bull"/"old bull" thing here and as always, someone is going to get schooled! :lol:

It's all good.

silversaddle1

I also can admit that I'm still learning new stuff every day.Just like the stuff I learned yesterday when I read the entire wiki page for the company that made the boards in question.This thread was intended to get a collected source for materials that should be looked for in our fields of business and not to see who's way's where better or who was better than another.I'm sorry if that's not how my OP came across.

The questions I asked were genuine in nature,I already knew that you didn't refine your own stuff from your previous posts.I just found it faster to ask and get a confirmation then have to find that post.I also already knew you had been doing this for a long time,just not how long.The 8120 in one day is a lot and if you will be kind enough to finish with the other part of that question,I'll give you and every one else an explanation on why I wanted the information in the answers.Thanks in advance for being fair and understanding in your posts so far.

To be honest I'm only "hard on him" because I know he's got what it takes to do better so it's actually more of a back handed compliment. :shock:

Jon

spaceships

I thought that was what the other post in my other thread was about.And afterwards I shake your hand with vigor and tell you thanks.

So far as I've experienced in many millions of dollars in precious metals--at some point anyone and everyone thinks they have more than what they really have. I have done it. You, dear reader, have done it. We've all done it. It's bias, hope, and perhaps most honestly, let's call it what it is... unrealistic expectations.

Have to give a special shout out to Barren Realms for one of the most diplomatic posts I've ever read on any forum and to everyone for not completely jumping Jerry.

If anything, Jerry is just learning just like I learned and many people here learned--experientially, and sometimes that's the hard way. He's been here a while, he's read, he's gotten called out on public forum for both the quality of his gold and what he considers "a stash", this material at low or zero cost basis with which to further learn.

Work on your delivery Jerry and keep reading and learning but realize first that there are people here who know a thing or two as well--they also had to learn just like you and they still are learning. Take their commentary constructively and roll with the punches--these guys don't want to see you lose money on items by having unrealistic expectations. They are giving the advice that has worked for them and made them money. I like to think I know it all and can't get anything off the forum or others' experiences--it simply isn't true.

Lou

Yes,I agree that for the first four years of my refining I was one of those people.I would buy materials based on yield data provided here on our forum.I finally realized after sinking $2,000.00 into materials and equipment,that I could not rely on that yield data to help me make my purchases any longer.So at that point I stopped everything and sat and thought day in and day out for one complete month.I had to come up with my own complete system that covered every angle from a quick place to sell boards with out the wait for payment,to being 110 percent versatile in my refining.Long story short the final piece fell into place on 5-9-2016,The point is this the material that is in question has already been batch tested by myself 1 1/2 years ago when I paid $8.00 a pound for 12 pounds=$96.00.So you see I already know what the 16 back plains(which only two made it in the picture)will bring just by them self's.All I can say is this if you never run the material to full completion,you will never truely know the whole value of the materials for yourself.

I do always listen and do know that other members know more than me,but also keep in mind that I am starting to catch up as well.I learn lots of new stuff from yall every day because I make sure to read every thing that gets posted.No I have not read the entire forum yet,but I do have one hell of a chunk knocked out already.Thank you Lou for all that you do for us and all the knowledge you have left behind in your wake.

So far as I've experienced in many millions of dollars in precious metals--at some point anyone and everyone thinks they have more than what they really have. I have done it. You, dear reader, have done it. We've all done it. It's bias, hope, and perhaps most honestly, let's call it what it is... unrealistic expectations.

Have to give a special shout out to Barren Realms for one of the most diplomatic posts I've ever read on any forum and to everyone for not completely jumping Jerry.

If anything, Jerry is just learning just like I learned and many people here learned--experientially, and sometimes that's the hard way. He's been here a while, he's read, he's gotten called out on public forum for both the quality of his gold and what he considers "a stash", this material at low or zero cost basis with which to further learn.

Work on your delivery Jerry and keep reading and learning but realize first that there are people here who know a thing or two as well--they also had to learn just like you and they still are learning. Take their commentary constructively and roll with the punches--these guys don't want to see you lose money on items by having unrealistic expectations. They are giving the advice that has worked for them and made them money. I like to think I know it all and can't get anything off the forum or others' experiences--it simply isn't true.

Thank you Lou. That really means a lot to me coming from you.

Barren Realms 007


I owe you an apology as well for snapping at you like I did,I am sorry.Like Lou said you handled the situation better than I did,I guess I'm just so used to yall kinda jumping all over when I make my threads that I over reacted.I do not want to have any problems with any of you.Thanks in advance.



modtheworld44

 

[FrugalRefiner]

mod, that may be the best post you've made yet. Best of luck!

Dave

 

[Barren Realms 007]

Were good Jerry, don't worry about it.

 

[Phishin_ca]

To All

I just wanted to show some of the stuff that I have gotten since 5-2-2016.I have been told over and over again in my threads "You can't make money refining unless you get your stuff for free". Well turns out that everyone was wrong.Hope yall drool yall's selfs silly :mrgreen:

P.S Can you see the same 4+oz of gold that I see?

modtheworld44

Quite a few HP POE switches come through?

 

[upcyclist]

I have been told over and over again in my threads "You can't make money refining unless you get your stuff for free". Well turns out that everyone was wrong.

(Emphasis mine.) I would tweak that first quote slightly to, "You can't be sure you're getting a good deal on e-scrap unless you get your stuff for free." So many people come on here basically asking if they're getting a good offer for x pounds of goods at $y/pound. That's when the quote comes into play.

So far as I've experienced in many millions of dollars in precious metals--at some point anyone and everyone thinks they have more than what they really have. I have done it. You, dear reader, have done it. We've all done it. It's bias, hope, and perhaps most honestly, let's call it what it is... unrealistic expectations.

Yes,I agree that for the first four years of my refining I was one of those people.I would buy materials based on yield data provided here on our forum.I finally realized after sinking $2,000.00 into materials and equipment,that I could not rely on that yield data to help me make my purchases any longer.

And that's how we learn. Experience is the best teacher for these values. GRF data is very good, and probably some of the best out there, but even that doesn't tell an individual e-scrap refiner what they will get when they process that same material. If one of the vets here says they get 3g/kg of a given material, I generally can only wish I'd get the same recovery rate on the same material. So even their data doesn't work for me.

That's why my personal motto is "You can't be sure you're getting a good deal on e-scrap unless you get your stuff for free." To you, Mod, and every other e-scrapper out there purchasing their material, I wish you the best of luck, the biggest profits, the most knowledge, and the fewest number of hard knocks. I really do.

And props to our community for this whole discussion--a lot of polite disagreement and mentoring going on here, no one's getting ridiculous. That's also a compliment to our fine moderators who have built this environment one post at a time.

 

[TheDragonWins]

Here's some more pictures,and the whole stack is of the top board.I ended up getting 87 of the bigger boards.



modtheworld44

Late nortel (2010ish a few months before they were filing bankrupsy then were bought by Avaya) switches/routers/everything tend to sell on ebay fast and expencive.

 

[modtheworld44]

Here's some more pictures,and the whole stack is of the top board.I ended up getting 87 of the bigger boards.



modtheworld44

Late nortel (2010ish a few months before they were filing bankrupsy then were bought by Avaya) switches/routers/everything tend to sell on ebay fast and expencive.

TheDragonWins

You can learn alot more about Nortel here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nortel.It's a very long read but well worth all the knowledge it will provide you.Do you have any Nortel stuff right now I would be interested if so will pay $4.75 a pound.I'll have to see pictures of them to make sure there the right kind.You pay shipping.Thanks in advance.



modtheworld44

 

[Justincase]

Here's some more pictures,and the whole stack is of the top board.I ended up getting 87 of the bigger boards.



modtheworld44

Late nortel (2010ish a few months before they were filing bankrupsy then were bought by Avaya) switches/routers/everything tend to sell on ebay fast and expencive.

TheDragonWins

You can learn alot more about Nortel here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nortel.It's a very long read but well worth all the knowledge it will provide you.Do you have any Nortel stuff right now I would be interested if so will pay $4.75 a pound.I'll have to see pictures of them to make sure there the right kind.You pay shipping.Thanks in advance.



modtheworld44

When I left active service for the first time in the 90's one of my first job's was working for a subsidiary of Nortel called Granger Communication's.
Great fun quietly installing microwave relay stations all over Europe.
If only I knew then what you have taught me now.the shipping containers of kit form the 80's they payed to ship off to china you would not believe.
The hole lot went bankrupt but I still keep in touch with some of the tec's from the Torque factory.
I have come across a little of there kit recently and what I have found looks good.
Are any of there processors salable for reuse now that they are so far out of production ?

 

[modtheworld44]

Here's some more pictures,and the whole stack is of the top board.I ended up getting 87 of the bigger boards.



modtheworld44

Late nortel (2010ish a few months before they were filing bankrupsy then were bought by Avaya) switches/routers/everything tend to sell on ebay fast and expencive.

TheDragonWins

You can learn alot more about Nortel here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nortel.It's a very long read but well worth all the knowledge it will provide you.Do you have any Nortel stuff right now I would be interested if so will pay $4.75 a pound.I'll have to see pictures of them to make sure there the right kind.You pay shipping.Thanks in advance.



modtheworld44

When I left active service for the first time in the 90's one of my first job's was working for a subsidiary of Nortel called Granger Communication's.
Great fun quietly installing microwave relay stations all over Europe.
If only I knew then what you have taught me now.the shipping containers of kit form the 80's they payed to ship off to china you would not believe.
The hole lot went bankrupt but I still keep in touch with some of the tec's from the Torque factory.
I have come across a little of there kit recently and what I have found looks good.
Are any of there processors salable for reuse now that they are so far out of production ?

justinhcase

Process them and you'll see just how good they are compared to there looks.Can you remove the black heat sink off the other ceramic cpu and repost the picture? They probably are resalable but you would never catch me trying to sale any of mine and definitely not any from their microwave kit.Here's a link to the company that made the backplane boards I showed in my pictures.Click on all the sub category's to the top left of the page and look at all the different types of specs they provided nortel with, even down to the fully gold plated boards.

here's the link http://www.sanmina.com/components/backplanes/technology/index.php

I have run a Quick Recovery Test Batch on three of the seven Different components, That I'm going after immediately.My data will span all 16 Backplane boards that I got in this contract,there's 8 different rev models that includes to large PROTO2A boards.I kinda feel like there's some members on the forum that don't want me to share my true Knowledge about what I really know about these types of boards(just my own opinion that's all). Thanks for your time and picture(very nice board by the way)in advance.



modtheworld44

 

[Justincase]

Here's some more pictures,and the whole stack is of the top board.I ended up getting 87 of the bigger boards.



modtheworld44

Late nortel (2010ish a few months before they were filing bankrupsy then were bought by Avaya) switches/routers/everything tend to sell on ebay fast and expencive.

TheDragonWins

You can learn alot more about Nortel here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nortel.It's a very long read but well worth all the knowledge it will provide you.Do you have any Nortel stuff right now I would be interested if so will pay $4.75 a pound.I'll have to see pictures of them to make sure there the right kind.You pay shipping.Thanks in advance.



modtheworld44

When I left active service for the first time in the 90's one of my first job's was working for a subsidiary of Nortel called Granger Communication's.
Great fun quietly installing microwave relay stations all over Europe.
If only I knew then what you have taught me now.the shipping containers of kit form the 80's they payed to ship off to china you would not believe.
The hole lot went bankrupt but I still keep in touch with some of the tec's from the Torque factory.
I have come across a little of there kit recently and what I have found looks good.
Are any of there processors salable for reuse now that they are so far out of production ?

justinhcase

Process them and you'll see just how good they are compared to there looks.Can you remove the black heat sink off the other ceramic cpu and repost the picture? They probably are resalable but you would never catch me trying to sale any of mine and definitely not any from their microwave kit.Here's a link to the company that made the backplane boards I showed in my pictures.Click on all the sub category's to the top left of the page and look at all the different types of specs they provided nortel with, even down to the fully gold plated boards.

here's the link http://www.sanmina.com/components/backplanes/technology/index.php

I have run a Quick Recovery Test Batch on three of the seven Different components, That I'm going after immediately.My data will span all 16 Backplane boards that I got in this contract,there's 8 different rev models that includes to large PROTO2A boards.I kinda feel like there's some members on the forum that don't want me to share my true Knowledge about what I really know about these types of boards(just my own opinion that's all). Thanks for your time and picture(very nice board by the way)in advance.



modtheworld44

Thank you that is very useful information.
I was going to cherry pick when I have time, they have been on the to do list for quite a while.
It is part of a Meridian Telephone Switch board that use to run the emergency services for the aria, B.T. have an other unit that is gathering dust at a site I guard , they would not believe it has been superseded by better equipment but you never know .constant polite suggestion may still land the fish.
I had a hint that they may be above average as a former member became quite aggressive with me when I would not ship them complete.
Luckily an other U.K. firm had offered better terms.
There is only the one processor that has visible gold brazing and I have not had time to investigate further.
I look forward to pulverising and processing.
Warm Regards
Justin

 

[Justincase]

P.S.
Now you mention it and I had half forgotten.
I did get 4.8g Au just from the plug board's at the back.
Very thick plating, it was like one of the snow globes once I had digested the base metals .only gold instead of snow..

 

[modtheworld44]

P.S.
Now you mention it and I had half forgotten.
I did get 4.8g Au just from the plug board's at the back.
Very thick plating, it was like one of the snow globes once I had digested the base metals .only gold instead of snow..

justinhcase

That is so ironic you posted that specific backplane, cause about 2-3 months ago I got my hands on 3 of them myself.Yes,I would pay boardsort prices of $2.30 a pound or better all day long for that type of backplane,even with the 4-5 pounds of black plastic sockets per board.The only thing I didn't like about them was the uneven pin count across the black sockets.Yields have always been worth the price for me.The backplane's I got right now are even better,here's you a good math problem.

16 backplane's with 42,600 pins like in the picture(There's 113.5grams in the little container for Quick Recovery Test Batch)and it takes 48-50pins to make one gram.What's the total weight for the entire 42,600 pins.What do you think the yield is going to be for the 113.5 grams which is only 1/4 a pound of pins?

The round hollow sleeve pins over all count was 800 and takes 14 to make 1.04 grams total weight for all 800 was 62.2 grams.What do you think the 62.2 grams is going to yield?

I have run and already dropped the gold last night,just waiting for the rain to let up so I can dry and melt(Yes I know that the gold is dirty,will be doing one big refine clean up when I'm done with all the recovery's).

The silver box shaped plugs weigh 3.95 grams a piece and takes about 115 to make the 456.8 gram test batch.I am currently cementing the silver out of the ammonium hydroxide solution as I type this post.There was 800 silver boxes total from the backplanes. So that still leaves 4 more tests to be preformed,Who ever else reads this needs to Understand That these tests are for me to build My base line for when I get more of the same materials or for When I'm ready to run the rest of the material to be data base cataloged. I will be posting the results in this thread,as soon as I get each melt completed(No matter how piss poor some of these yields may or may not come out). So Please be patient with me,because I'm running these one right after the other as fast as I can. Thanks to all in advance for your time and patience.



modtheworld44

 

[Justincase]

Have you thought about testing the bright end of the pin's and the soldered end separately.
That way you will know for certain if the extra work un-soldering the hole board is more than selling a worth while board.
I try to hit a happy medium,recover all the kit that brings my hourly wage above £10-15(That includes the time processing not just picking) and leave any thing else for a rainy day when I should get half the final smelt of all the copper as well once processed by the big boy's .
I did not think that there would be much plating dissolved in quite a bit of tin solder.very finely divided.
I had thought of doing a fire assay but have not had the time yet ,still trying to find the best way to work and comparing different returns from different rout's..

 

[modtheworld44]

Have you thought about testing the bright end of the pin's and the soldered end separately.
That way you will know for certain if the extra work un-soldering the hole board is more than selling a worth while board.
I try to hit a happy medium,recover all the kit that brings my hourly wage above £10-15(That includes the time processing not just picking) and leave any thing else for a rainy day when I should get half the final smelt of all the copper as well once processed by the big boy's .
I did not think that there would be much plating dissolved in quite a bit of tin solder.very finely divided.
I had thought of doing a fire assay but have not had the time yet ,still trying to find the best way to work and comparing different returns from different rout's..

justinhcase

All the pins on this type of backplane are all non-solder push pins except for the ones in the 3 blue plug connectors .I can pull all the other pins on the board(which is between 2,160 and 4,080 depending on rev type)in under 30 mins flat.I have a really good system that I developed and use.Most,but not all soldered telecom pins are normally only plated down to where the bottom of the plastic meets the board.There is some pins that are fully gold plated that I have to heat off with my butane torch though some times.Thanks for this interesting conversation and hope it will continue on.



modtheworld44

 

[Justincase]

Have you thought about testing the bright end of the pin's and the soldered end separately.
That way you will know for certain if the extra work un-soldering the hole board is more than selling a worth while board.
I try to hit a happy medium,recover all the kit that brings my hourly wage above £10-15(That includes the time processing not just picking) and leave any thing else for a rainy day when I should get half the final smelt of all the copper as well once processed by the big boy's .
I did not think that there would be much plating dissolved in quite a bit of tin solder.very finely divided.
I had thought of doing a fire assay but have not had the time yet ,still trying to find the best way to work and comparing different returns from different rout's..

justinhcase

All the pins on this type of backplane are all non-solder push pins except for the ones in the 3 blue plug connectors .I can pull all the other pins on the board(which is between 2,160 and 4,080 depending on rev type)in under 30 mins flat.I have a really good system that I developed and use.Most,but not all soldered telecom pins are normally only plated down to where the bottom of the plastic meets the board.There is some pins that are fully gold plated that I have to heat off with my butane torch though some times.Thanks for this interesting conversation and hope it will continue on.



modtheworld44

I found a very soft and light solder on pins in the back plate of the Meridian exchange, They could be pulled out but are a bit of a pain to digest.
They hold a little value as the saddle of the solder seat reaches over the gold plating, It will not be much and quite awkward to recover for such a small amount.
So I just use a very sharp chisel and a hammer to take them off at the base.(making sure to do it in side a large box to catch strays and wear safety glasses because some travel at speed.)one to two minutes each strip of pins top's. I keep a close eye on the task and try to imagine having to pay for some one else to take over.is this just a cottage industry or can it be scaled up efficiently?
I try not to scavenge a board clean and leave the hard to recover value for the larger operations, with the U.K. Legislation it is handy to keep a larger company on your side .
Exeter is two hundred miles from the people I have an agreement with, it may take two years of storing but the minimum load has to be one ton , to be actually economical you are looking at stockpiling five.
But it is a very good piggy bank and every little helps..

 

[modtheworld44]

Have you thought about testing the bright end of the pin's and the soldered end separately.
That way you will know for certain if the extra work un-soldering the hole board is more than selling a worth while board.
I try to hit a happy medium,recover all the kit that brings my hourly wage above £10-15(That includes the time processing not just picking) and leave any thing else for a rainy day when I should get half the final smelt of all the copper as well once processed by the big boy's .
I did not think that there would be much plating dissolved in quite a bit of tin solder.very finely divided.
I had thought of doing a fire assay but have not had the time yet ,still trying to find the best way to work and comparing different returns from different rout's..

justinhcase

All the pins on this type of backplane are all non-solder push pins except for the ones in the 3 blue plug connectors .I can pull all the other pins on the board(which is between 2,160 and 4,080 depending on rev type)in under 30 mins flat.I have a really good system that I developed and use.Most,but not all soldered telecom pins are normally only plated down to where the bottom of the plastic meets the board.There is some pins that are fully gold plated that I have to heat off with my butane torch though some times.Thanks for this interesting conversation and hope it will continue on.



modtheworld44

I found a very soft and light solder on pins in the back plate of the Meridian exchange, They could be pulled out but are a bit of a pain to digest.
They hold a little value as the saddle of the solder seat reaches over the gold plating, It will not be much and quite awkward to recover for such a small amount.
So I just use a very sharp chisel and a hammer to take them off at the base.(making sure to do it in side a large box to catch strays and wear safety glasses because some travel at speed.)one to two minutes each strip of pins top's. I keep a close eye on the task and try to imagine having to pay for some one else to take over.is this just a cottage industry or can it be scaled up efficiently?
I try not to scavenge a board clean and leave the hard to recover value for the larger operations, with the U.K. Legislation it is handy to keep a larger company on your side .
Exeter is two hundred miles from the people I have an agreement with, it may take two years of storing but the minimum load has to be one ton , to be actually economical you are looking at stockpiling five.
But it is a very good piggy bank and every little helps..

justinhcase

You jarred my memory when you wrote Meridian Exchange.I bought a complete Nortel Phone system off of govdeals.com on 3/18/2016 and picked it up on 3/23/2016.That's why my memory was a little fuzzy in the other post when I saw the backplane you posted.I remember the 3 crappy(pretty much all beige plastic cases) of the wall mountable meridians,and the effort it took to get that system loaded out to my truck.I think that's the reason I had forgot about it so easily,hell the 12 microwave towers I got out of Ohio last year were easier to load than this system.I got the big 4 tier server(which was the hardest and heaviest part to move),MPS,MFA 150 interconnect and distribution unit,4 of the car sized batteries and rack,3 Meridian wall mount units,and a lot of phones with lots of miscellaneous extras.I paid $255.00+$60.00 gas round trip+time to go some where I haven't been before.Well worth it in my opinion and the scrap paid for it all,and I still have plenty of it in my back stock for when I need the profits.

Did you by chance check those pins for silver and or palladium?The chances of either are pretty good when it comes to Nortel kit.

OK the results for the SMALL GOLD PLATED TIPPED PINS is done.
The results for 113.5 Grams=0.4grams dirty(still has borax and contaminants).

Now I know what everyone is probably thinking in my own opinion(That's not a very good gold yield for the weight and only about 0.1-0.3 of that weight is gold and the rest is garbage). I would normally agree,which would put this type of pin in the very low grade yielding category of 0.4-1.2 grams of gold per pound. So we know that these pins are from the biggest Name brand telecommunications company in North America(which is open for debate),so why is the gold yield so low.
Well let's take a look at what type of application the backplane and said pins were designed for.The first couple of clues are easy,red colored memory stick thingy's(power over LAN modules,for those who have never seen them before)and the 10Gbs fiber optic boards.Ok now we should know the application for which there being used at this point(if you didn't know at this point,Then I'm giving good advice GO research this type of information it is highly viable to help you get the advantage you need.). The application is HIGH POWER DATA TRANSFER,which in turn should or could help you determine what precious metals should or could be used for the pins in question.You see before I even started the test I suspected a low yield in the gold area and suspected another precious metal because of the High power that is used in this system.I normally just pass all other precious metals to my stock pot because usually there's not enough in it to go after,but that is about to change.
My stannous test would not show me my gold even after the denox,but did show me twice a green/yellowish result from my PMAR(which should be palladium if memory serves me correct,like I implied above I have not implemented a lot of work towards the other precious metals.). I'll have to go check to make sure,but I think some one posted that melting palladium in an oxygen rich environment will cause it to kinda spark off the melt(don't quote me on this). That is what happened during the melt last night,I'll post pictures of the buttons as soon as I get this next button melted(just as soon as I stop typing.LOL). Thanks for your time in advance.


P.S Sorry for such a rant.



modtheworld44

 

[Topher_osAUrus]

Heres a couple goodies i got in reply to one of my recycle adverts.

Just got them unloaded and have a lot of work to do... But, the guy said some of it was reprogramming unix stuff from early 90s, so i am quite excited to tear down all the way.

 

[GOLDbuyerCA]

very good thread, interesting right off, i like the quote " you never know fully what you got " that to me, is revising my yields upward on gold bonding wire chips, also processing more carefully the 2 to 4 Kg lots of same, go get the best yields, some jewels of experience here, thanks.