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It was lump that I crush by myself .


Iron is in form of iron silicates.
Above mentioned results are not minirology.
Ergo samples can not be trusted.
You do not test lumps, crush and mix.
You need to read up on sample preparation and homogenous sample taking.
I suggest you read the book Fire assays by Bugbee.
You are very vulnerable for nugget effects here.
 
Ergo samples can not be trusted.
You do not test lumps, crush and mix.
You need to read up on sample preparation and homogenous sample taking.
I suggest you read the book Fire assays by Bugbee.
You are very vulnerable for nugget effects here.
Sorry again, I said about lumps because many were assuming it's a residue of any process. That's why I mention that it's a clear ore that was in lump and I myself crushed it. So no chance of a residue after any prrocess
 
One sure indication of a scam is a statement to the effect that large international assay laboratories have their own agenda for giving reports showing low assay values or that these labs do not understand the peculiar complexities of a certain ore and thus cannot show the values that are there.
Strangely enough these types of scams are targeted at people people from Bangladesh to Afghanistan and surrounding countries.
It appears that in these countries there are enough people who are well educated and have amassed financial security but would like more that the small percentage of these people who fall for these scams make a good living for the scammers.
Large international laboratories do not have lists circulating of people who might have rich deposits of various ores in remote countries.
These labs have gotten their position as top ranked laboratories by having the latest equipment matched with personnel who are experienced in assaying for all metals in all ore types.
Scammers tell their prey that these labs have reasons for giving low values for certain ores and usually include in their pitch a set of assay results which are claimed to be representative of the ore body in question.
There will certainly be no reports from an independent sampler recommended by a department of mines or similar, the usual claim for not engaging such a person is confidentiality regarding the location and ownership of the deposit.
What you end up with is an unknown sample from an unknown location assayed by an uncertified assayer.
The usual claim is that high levels of gold and pgms are in the ore, these are then said to be, with justification, more difficult and thus more expensive to assay than just gold, platinum and palladium and isn't it lucky that the scammer happens to know an assayer who has the necessary skills to carry out the required assays.
I am not saying that this has occurred in this instance but I would certainly look at ownership papers for the deposit, who selected the samples, the chain of custody for such samples and the qualifications and certifications of the assay labs and assay personnel.
There are no cheap short cuts in mining, usually every step is expensive and carrying out your own investigations as above might save you a lot of money.
Deano
 
One sure indication of a scam is a statement to the effect that large international assay laboratories have their own agenda for giving reports showing low assay values or that these labs do not understand the peculiar complexities of a certain ore and thus cannot show the values that are there.
Strangely enough these types of scams are targeted at people people from Bangladesh to Afghanistan and surrounding countries.
It appears that in these countries there are enough people who are well educated and have amassed financial security but would like more that the small percentage of these people who fall for these scams make a good living for the scammers.
Large international laboratories do not have lists circulating of people who might have rich deposits of various ores in remote countries.
These labs have gotten their position as top ranked laboratories by having the latest equipment matched with personnel who are experienced in assaying for all metals in all ore types.
Scammers tell their prey that these labs have reasons for giving low values for certain ores and usually include in their pitch a set of assay results which are claimed to be representative of the ore body in question.
There will certainly be no reports from an independent sampler recommended by a department of mines or similar, the usual claim for not engaging such a person is confidentiality regarding the location and ownership of the deposit.
What you end up with is an unknown sample from an unknown location assayed by an uncertified assayer.
The usual claim is that high levels of gold and pgms are in the ore, these are then said to be, with justification, more difficult and thus more expensive to assay than just gold, platinum and palladium and isn't it lucky that the scammer happens to know an assayer who has the necessary skills to carry out the required assays.
I am not saying that this has occurred in this instance but I would certainly look at ownership papers for the deposit, who selected the samples, the chain of custody for such samples and the qualifications and certifications of the assay labs and assay personnel.
There are no cheap short cuts in mining, usually every step is expensive and carrying out your own investigations as above might save you a lot of money.
Deano
Thank you for a detailed reply, one of member I know, DaniH , he was also scamed by a Canadian person. And he did same as you said. I talk with daniH a month ago and he was in some situations regarding his investors, I think the figure he told me was over 50 thousand dollars were invested, and now investors were demanding 3x of original amount. He was kidnapped first, then his family was on risk. He lost his everything, and that person was disappeared. I do not know how these scamers make money but it was a shocking information for me.


And one more thing , he was suggested from some one on forum, as DaniH told me. I will try to remember th names of those guys.
 
In this fear, I only want try small steps. As I mention in other post to try to concentrate ore on small scale with less investment. Do some fire assays. If we can do, we will go ahead, if we can not find anything in assay, I will move to another ore.
 

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