I need someone to smelt and refine raw rhodium ore in Oregon or a state along the pacific coast. Please help

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Kind of true, and I definitely see your point, but I did pick a few nice little points from the replies. But if they aren't going to wait for an answer, why ask?
That is, in my mind, because they do not like the answer they get.
What they like is to know how rich they are going to get, maybe....

And since they usually do not come back, it is only going to be speculation like this.

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And sometimes their issue is resolved and they have no interest in sharing that,
or they just leave until they need help next time.
 
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When you participate in a forum where we truly try to give the best advice we can, often you have to take the bitter with the sweet.
There is also the factor which many believe , questions can be solved by a simple search on the internet, with instant answers (gratification). When their certain answer isn't responded to, they move on to some other source. Some will engage in conversation, while others just move on.
 
There is also the factor which many believe , questions can be solved by a simple search on the internet, with instant answers (gratification). When their certain answer isn't responded to, they move on to some other source. Some will engage in conversation, while others just move on.
This is exactly why I have always felt that new members should be prevented from posting for a short period of time. The truly impatient ones will just give up and search elsewhere for instant gratification.
 
I find this site interesting although my greater interest is in prospecting/identifying ores. I have zero experience with rhodium so did some research. Some things that may be interesting to you/others here.

1) Rhodium is commonly said to be the rarest of elements. That seems unlikely to me. Rhodium is about middle of the range for atomic weight and specific gravity: close to palladium - a little 'heavier' than lead. It may be more common than thought just not easily found in recognized quantity/concentration in the earths crust.

2) Terminology, as often said here, counts - especially when talking to professionals/experts in a field. So, an ore is something mined for its value. Thus rhodium ore would be mined for rhodium. Such ores/minerals exist - for instance rhodplumsite, a rhodium, lead sulfide mineral, would be mined for its rhodium value. Minerals that contain very minor amounts of something that is nevertheless worth extracting in the concentration/refining process, but not the primary reason that ore is mined, are NOT ores of that minor constituent. So, it is possible your ore contains traces of rhodium but unlikely, although not impossible, it is rhodium ore.

3) Rhodium is not easily identified by the techniques commonly used by prospectors/assayers to identify minerals, elements, likely ore prospects. More technical, lab, based techniques, if they are specifically aimed at quantitative analysis for rhodium seem to be necessary for certainty of just what is there. Otherwise, routine tests that might show a couple ppb or ppm, aren't meaningful beyond indicating specific testing is needed. Accurately identifying the constituent amounts of a PGM finding is not a trivial exercise.

4) Most rhodium production comes from mining/processing other ores; chiefly nickle, palladium, platinum, copper and others, where it is found as a minor constituent in the raw alloy.

5) The nature of rhodium, like platinum, is that it is durable and can be found in small 'grains'. It can accumulate in placers.

6) It would be nice to see a full-size readable copy of the full assay report.

7) The pictures are of no value in determining the sample contents. About all that can said from them is they are clearly not of high grade rhodplumsite, or any high grade rhodium ore I've been able to find pictures of.

8) Whatever those rocks contain, I think it safe to say NO ONE can be found that has interest in extracting their value - such person/company does not exist. However, if there is GOOD reason to believe they contain interesting amounts of rhodium/pgms they are quite valuable as an indicator for further prospecting. In that regard:

9) I'd be looking hard for the in situ source of the samples, and their geologic setting. I'd look for tests I could run myself to see if significant rhodium/PGM or associated elements are present. Duke's/Morsby (spelling?) on this site is helpful in that regard. I'd look for the nearest down hill water/alluvial accumulation and pan it for concentrates to test for rhodium/PGM. It is these concentrates that I'd get tested - not the raw rock. Similarly, I'd crush and pan/concentrate some of the raw rock for further analysis/assay.

Incidentally, the world's largest known deposit of rhodium appears to be in Montana. Rhodium is usually found associated with ignius rocks. I'd also be coparing te geology of my finding ith the geology of known deposits. Generally, hile deposit tyoes vary widely, knowing that something is similar to some other commercially viable deposit goes a long way in creating interest in exploration companies. Those rocks, as pictured, or not the source of any immediate money in your pocket. They may the key to hundreds of millions of dollars in your pocket 10-20 years from now - but until then thay are a drain on your time and money, valuable for the personal fun, knowledge, experience you may gain - no more.
1) It is not thought, it was measured with precise machines like AAS etc. in rock bodies, as well as picked ore specimens. Rhodium is very rare, and it does nothing to do with it´s weight but with atomic number and number of possibilities how the element can form either by fusion or fission out in the space. There is a good reason why elements like oxygen, aluminium or iron are so common and rhodium or iridium are so rare :)

3) Most labs working for big guys use advanced techniques, and with ICP or AAS, you can easily get down to very low concentrations. Moreover, rhodium, as well as other PGMs will follow majority of metals during ore processing and it will report in any analysis the mining guys will perform. The reason it usually doesn´t is very simple - it isn´t there :)
There are ore bodies that are very rich in PGMs. But rarely in metallic form, rather the PGMs are dispersed through sulfidic mineralisation. There aren´t that much places like Konder, Russia :D
 
1) It is not thought, it was measured with precise machines like AAS etc. in rock bodies, as well as picked ore specimens. Rhodium is very rare, and it does nothing to do with it´s weight but with atomic number and number of possibilities how the element can form either by fusion or fission out in the space. There is a good reason why elements like oxygen, aluminium or iron are so common and rhodium or iridium are so rare :)

3) Most labs working for big guys use advanced techniques, and with ICP or AAS, you can easily get down to very low concentrations. Moreover, rhodium, as well as other PGMs will follow majority of metals during ore processing and it will report in any analysis the mining guys will perform. The reason it usually doesn´t is very simple - it isn´t there :)
There are ore bodies that are very rich in PGMs. But rarely in metallic form, rather the PGMs are dispersed through sulfidic mineralisation. There aren´t that much places like Konder, Russia :D
Orvi:

1) I did not say 'weight'. I said 'atomic weight'. Regardless of which measure is used - atomic weight or atomic number - for each element, is there a great difference in their sorted order? Is not rhodium some distance from the ends of the both scales - positioned near the same elements on both scales?

2) 'Rare' is a rather vague term. As I understand/think of it, the processes that created elements, created generally/relatively fewer atoms of each element as you move up the atomic number/weight scale. If so, in its creation, rhodium atoms may not be as rare as is their finding.

3) Yes, it was measured with 'precise' machines. Nevertheless, personally, I have some doubt about the accuracy of the results regarding rhodium. I think they show only more investigation is worth considering.

4) It is unclear how much 'ore' OP has. I discussed the likely intrinsic value of a few selected rocks vs the possible value of a large deposit. I intended this to be the key take-away for OP, along with some background that might cause him to reconsider what seems to be his original view that he has something of immediate value. Perhaps I did a poor job of making this point - got too far down in the wrong weeds - or didn't explain well enough. Don't know - he has not responded - not asked questions, or for clarification.
 
Orvi:

1) I did not say 'weight'. I said 'atomic weight'. Regardless of which measure is used - atomic weight or atomic number - for each element, is there a great difference in their sorted order? Is not rhodium some distance from the ends of the both scales - positioned near the same elements on both scales?

2) 'Rare' is a rather vague term. As I understand/think of it, the processes that created elements, created generally/relatively fewer atoms of each element as you move up the atomic number/weight scale. If so, in its creation, rhodium atoms may not be as rare as is their finding.

3) Yes, it was measured with 'precise' machines. Nevertheless, personally, I have some doubt about the accuracy of the results regarding rhodium. I think they show only more investigation is worth considering.

4) It is unclear how much 'ore' OP has. I discussed the likely intrinsic value of a few selected rocks vs the possible value of a large deposit. I intended this to be the key take-away for OP, along with some background that might cause him to reconsider what seems to be his original view that he has something of immediate value. Perhaps I did a poor job of making this point - got too far down in the wrong weeds - or didn't explain well enough. Don't know - he has not responded - not asked questions, or for clarification.
Rhodium is special in many ways.
Not only its rarity but also that it has only one natural Isotope,
which is quite rare among most of the heavier elements.

The rarity of elements have to do with the sequence of fusions to create them and the probability of the events creating them to occur. We rare not even talking about Supernova's here.

This planet has been scanned and sifted through so many times that it doubt there is much more to find in this respect.
There are how ever theoretical possibilities of undiscovered stable super heavy elements not found on the surface of the earth.
The key word theoretical.
 
Orvi:

1) I did not say 'weight'. I said 'atomic weight'. Regardless of which measure is used - atomic weight or atomic number - for each element, is there a great difference in their sorted order? Is not rhodium some distance from the ends of the both scales - positioned near the same elements on both scales?

2) 'Rare' is a rather vague term. As I understand/think of it, the processes that created elements, created generally/relatively fewer atoms of each element as you move up the atomic number/weight scale. If so, in its creation, rhodium atoms may not be as rare as is their finding.

3) Yes, it was measured with 'precise' machines. Nevertheless, personally, I have some doubt about the accuracy of the results regarding rhodium. I think they show only more investigation is worth considering.

4) It is unclear how much 'ore' OP has. I discussed the likely intrinsic value of a few selected rocks vs the possible value of a large deposit. I intended this to be the key take-away for OP, along with some background that might cause him to reconsider what seems to be his original view that he has something of immediate value. Perhaps I did a poor job of making this point - got too far down in the wrong weeds - or didn't explain well enough. Don't know - he has not responded - not asked questions, or for clarification.
True, I expect Kurt is right, drive through poster maybe.
 
I just saw this, and I am in SW Washington and I smelt ore with varying compositions. If you have suspected any PGM's, prepare your sample by grinding to 200mesh, prepare a flux with 40/20/20/20 Borax/#70 or finer silica/Soda Ash/Sodium Nitrate or Manganese Dioxide, and weigh your sample. Add twice the flux as your sample, and 10x's the weight of pure lead to your smelt. Cupel the lead at 1850 F, till all lead is absorbed. Your potential PGM's are in the button, send off to lab for ICP finishing. You can also do a scorification assay with 10-18x's the lead. If you can smelt, you can do all that....sreetips seems to have a good drop on PGM refining...I just been smelting and making beads for bout 20yrs.....find a good refiner and sell them the beads till you get it...i plate everything and keep the pgms in my slimes....maybe one day

A good read is "A textbook of fire assaying" by Edward E. Bugbee is a great reference available to anyone on google digitized books.

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