Israels Treasure

[Shark]

I think he means Poor Man's AR.

 

[Yggdrasil]

I think he means Poor Man's AR.

That may be.

 

[Martijn]

What is PM AR?

I'm thinking poor man's AR. Which was added to the piranha solution!?? and he wants to boil that down to syrup thickness.
Your prediction may be very accurate. Accident waiting to happen.

God gave me Tons of High Grade Gold and Silver ore

Now i suspect beliefs were mixed up with facts.
The classification of it being 'high grade' means there was some mining result or assay to conclude this.

And then there's this gold borax glass I've got tons of too.

Did you get it for free? Borax glass with gold in it?

 

[goldshark]

You would say that. Petty.

I got battery acid, 30% sulfuric from autozone and I keep 35% food grade h202 on me for home made hydro oxy chloro quinine (IC3+) so I got all my broken crucibles and pieces covered in gold slag and put them in a pyrex, added the sulfuric. A quart. And asked God if I should add h202, He said yeah, had me put about 10 drops in maybe a little more. Almost instantly to my surprise the gold began dissolving into aqua regia.

Question now is how I'm gonna precipitate and clean the powder. And how much can I make. Cooking and pouring concentrates now, gonna put ore in the oven soon too.

Yggdrasil is a moderator, so he is trying to be diplomatic. He is not being petty. What you are doing is serious chemistry, with very potent chemicals. You obviously do not know what you are doing. This is a great time to stop, breath some fresh air, cleanse your mind, then maybe start again. After you get a professional assay. For what it is worth, your chemistry and writing skills, need a lot of work.

 

[TheLamb]

What you make from Sulfuric and Peroxide is called a Piranha solution.
It is very aggressive against organic matter like your skin and flesh.
And as you guess from the name will literally eat it away from you bones, well it will eat the bones too with a little more time.
What it will not do, is dissolve Gold.
It has NO use in refining and so dangerous that we do not use it.
So far it seem like you act like an accident waiting to happen.
So STOP this now and study first.

Edited to correct cellphone "spelling" aka thick fingers.

Lot of messages to reply to all saying the same thing. First of all, sulfuric does not dissolve gold unless an oxidative is present. Like h202. You're plain wrong.

Another message said I was planning on boiling it into a thick syrup? No. I am dissolving gold slag in it, to richen the AR, into a thick syrup IE to Dissolve the most gold in it. I am not boiling it to do so, just soaking it at about 80 degrees Fahrenheit. Ive got a very tiny bit of Iron mixed in the slag that is preventing the solution from neutralizing, causing gold to precipitate. Gonna check the oven and the AR in a minute.

Someone asked if I got the gold for free. It all comes from my property.

And Ive made 20 gallons of AR with Nitric and Hydrochloric and this slag. Ive Electroplated and vacuum purged it, made my own HCL and Ammonia solutions, all without a single injury. I have plenty of experience. In the 2-3 years since making all that AR ive considered everything I did wrong, could've done right, and the variables I experienced.

I don't need a DNA test to check my gender just like I don't need an Assay to tell that the grass is green. Pyrite wouldn't of survived blasting from the biggest Heavy Duty Victor Oxygen Acetylene cutting torch on the market. And I've been blasting this stuff with oxy acetylene for years. Pyrite wouldn't make AR. Pyrite won't pass Electrospectronomy Tests as Gold. Pyrite wouldn't pass acid tests, Pyrite won't produce grain gold in a electroplating experiment. Pyrite won't produce gold filament. Pyrite won't make green gold at a 7525 AU AG mixture. Pyrite won't make white gold at a 5050 auag mixture. Pyrite Ore doesn't form in flakes and veins. Pyrite ore doesn't release silver roots. The Silver bar i posted the photo of, didn't come back from the lab as Pyrite. It came back as Pure silver, but an Ice Cube, and an Acid Test, and the Sound it makes, all of that already told me what it was.

It's High Grade because it's median concentration per piece of ore is above 50% au or ag, I have HG au ag and auag ore. When I take a au ore the size of my hand and melt it, 25-50,000$ worth of gold will come out of it. That's High Grade.

 

[TheLamb]

I'm thinking poor man's AR. Which was added to the piranha solution!?? and he wants to boil that down to syrup thickness.
Your prediction may be very accurate. Accident waiting to happen.


Now i suspect beliefs were mixed up with facts.
The classification of it being 'high grade' means there was some mining result or assay to conclude this.


Did you get it for free? Borax glass with gold in it?

poor mans AR, didnt add it to the Sulfuric H202, the Sulfuric H202 is My version of poor mans AR because it Does Dissolve Gold.

it wouldn't if it were 100% sulfuric + h202 that I know. But because it is 30% sulfuric 70% water + H202 it is Dillute and actually more acidic, stronger. Causing it to dissolve gold. There's a chemical equation in a thread on here that explains that too.

I can get my own chlorine pucks and make HCL easy. I just don't need to yet.
Ive made enough gold powder already to start collecting it and cleaning it. If I pull that off, I'll have my gold.

 

[Yggdrasil]

Lot of messages to reply to all saying the same thing. First of all, sulfuric does not dissolve gold unless an oxidative is present. Like h202. You're plain wrong.

Another message said I was planning on boiling it into a thick syrup? No. I am dissolving gold slag in it, to richen the AR, into a thick syrup IE to Dissolve the most gold in it. I am not boiling it to do so, just soaking it at about 80 degrees Fahrenheit. Ive got a very tiny bit of Iron mixed in the slag that is preventing the solution from neutralizing, causing gold to precipitate. Gonna check the oven and the AR in a minute.

Someone asked if I got the gold for free. It all comes from my property.

And Ive made 20 gallons of AR with Nitric and Hydrochloric and this slag. Ive Electroplated and vacuum purged it, made my own HCL and Ammonia solutions, all without a single injury. I have plenty of experience. In the 2-3 years since making all that AR ive considered everything I did wrong, could've done right, and the variables I experienced.

I don't need a DNA test to check my gender just like I don't need an Assay to tell that the grass is green. Pyrite wouldn't of survived blasting from the biggest Heavy Duty Victor Oxygen Acetylene cutting torch on the market. And I've been blasting this stuff with oxy acetylene for years. Pyrite wouldn't make AR. Pyrite won't pass Electrospectronomy Tests as Gold. Pyrite wouldn't pass acid tests, Pyrite won't produce grain gold in a electroplating experiment. Pyrite won't produce gold filament. Pyrite won't make green gold at a 7525 AU AG mixture. Pyrite won't make white gold at a 5050 auag mixture. Pyrite Ore doesn't form in flakes and veins. Pyrite ore doesn't release silver roots. The Silver bar i posted the photo of, didn't come back from the lab as Pyrite. It came back as Pure silver, but an Ice Cube, and an Acid Test, and the Sound it makes, all of that already told me what it was.

It's High Grade because it's median concentration per piece of ore is above 50% au or ag, I have HG au ag and auag ore. When I take a au ore the size of my hand and melt it, 25-50,000$ worth of gold will come out of it. That's High Grade.

Your post do not make sense chemistry wise.

 

[TheLamb]

poor mans AR, didnt add it to the Sulfuric H202, the Sulfuric H202 is My version of poor mans AR because it Does Dissolve Gold.

it wouldn't if it were 100% sulfuric + h202 that I know. But because it is 30% sulfuric 70% water + H202 it is Dillute and actually more acidic, stronger. Causing it to dissolve gold. There's a chemical equation in a thread on here that explains that too.

I can get my own chlorine pucks and make HCL easy. I just don't need to yet.
Ive made enough gold powder already to start collecting it and cleaning it. If I pull that off, I'll have my gold.

I get where you guys are coming from
But cognizant dissonance is very real today, and it requires cognizant dissonance to ignore evidence. Occams Razor showed us if something is true, all evidence will exist and prove it. All roads lead to Rome. If it's Gold, it will make AR when dissolved. If it's Gold, it will pass electrospectronomy. If it's Gold, it will sink to the bottom before anything else. Ect ect ect ect.

I don't need an Assay to tell me exactly what I have because Exactly what I have was documented 200 years ago. 5 years of working with it and it's never failed a single test. I had more important things going on though

Your post do not make sense chemistry wise.

My Chemistry skills are quite limited.

 

[Yggdrasil]

poor mans AR, didnt add it to the Sulfuric H202, the Sulfuric H202 is My version of poor mans AR because it Does Dissolve Gold.

it wouldn't if it were 100% sulfuric + h202 that I know. But because it is 30% sulfuric 70% water + H202 it is Dillute and actually more acidic, stronger. Causing it to dissolve gold. There's a chemical equation in a thread on here that explains that too.

I can get my own chlorine pucks and make HCL easy. I just don't need to yet.
Ive made enough gold powder already to start collecting it and cleaning it. If I pull that off, I'll have my gold.

Poormans AR is any Nitrate and HCl, nothing else.
This is actually wrong, Piranha solution do not dissolve Gold.
Hydrogen Peroxide is a weak acid 3-6 pH

Edit added comme for better understanding.

 

[Yggdrasil]

I get where you guys are coming from
But cognizant dissonance is very real today, and it requires cognizant dissonance to ignore evidence. Occams Razor showed us if something is true, all evidence will exist and prove it. All roads lead to Rome. If it's Gold, it will make AR when dissolved. If it's Gold, it will pass electrospectronomy. If it's Gold, it will sink to the bottom before anything else. Ect ect ect ect.

I don't need an Assay to tell me exactly what I have because Exactly what I have was documented 200 years ago. 5 years of working with it and it's never failed a single test. I had more important things going on though

My Chemistry skills are quite limited.

It is quite obvious that your Chemical skills are lacking.
You play with things most experienced people in the industry would not touch.

I urge you to stop, set your things and ore aside and study so you won't hurt yourself or others.
The values will not go anywhere unless you throw it away.

Just a heads up:
No such thing as cognizant dissonance, but Cognitive dissonance is a thing.
Gold will NOT make AR dissolved or not.
Everyone dealing with Ore rely on assays so they know exactly what they have and how to best get it out of the ore.
The large mining operation will assay several times a day so they know what they have and that is not ignoring evidence.

So far you have showed us no evidence of other than slag.
So what kind of tests have you done?

 

[TheLamb]

Apologiez.

It is quite obvious that your Chemical skills are lacking.
You play with things most experienced people in the industry would not touch.

I urge you to stop, set your things and ore aside and study so you won't hurt yourself or others.
The values will not go anywhere unless you throw it away.

Just a heads up:
No such thing as cognizant dissonance, but Cognitive dissonance is a thing.
Gold will NOT make AR dissolved or not.
Everyone dealing with Ore rely on assays so they know exactly what they have and how to best get it out of the ore.
The large mining operation will assay several times a day so they know what they have and that is not ignoring evidence.

So far you have showed us no evidence of other than slag.
So what kind of tests have you done?

I told you that already? Electrospectronomy at jewelry refineries, Acid testing, test kits, heat testing, electric testing, gravity testing, ice test, sound test. Mixture test.

There's this book I have,
First Page sais "This Is Israels portion that Moses divided from the Years that he and the men warned up unto the LORD, And I Am to Bless you wherewith the LORD has blessed me, out of my walls, and my flock, and my winepress"

Ill give you a clue. I have steel pots buried in Ore with the tops welded shut 200 years ago. That is enough information to reveal where I Am getting my gold from. The pots are full of Concentrate. Quite a few of my photos here came out of Goblets with the tops welded shut containing gold hair and silver tassles. There's a book that mentions those goblets too.

Back to the Sulfuric H202. I took crucibles out, and the slag inside has large in part turned white and soggy like broken down borax crystal and (maybe?) Broken down silver. Maybe 50% of the slag, all the crushed slag. When I added h202 at this point, the drops turned to pure AR the second they hit the solution. I think that's the counteraction of adding H202 to fast. I see it's spreading too, seen in the 2nd photo.

I don't want to waste your guys time, it wanted to provide some information about borax slag here since I haven't had the easiest time finding it. And I'm learning a lot here everyday.

There's a way to finish this process I've begun and I'm gonna find it.

 

[TheLamb]

Apologiez.

I told you that already? Electrospectronomy at jewelry refineries, Acid testing, test kits, heat testing, electric testing, gravity testing, ice test, sound test. Mixture test.

There's this book I have,
First Page sais "This Is Israels portion that Moses divided from the Years that he and the men warned up unto the LORD, And I Am to Bless you wherewith the LORD has blessed me, out of my walls, and my flock, and my winepress"

Ill give you a clue. I have steel pots buried in Ore with the tops welded shut 200 years ago. That is enough information to reveal where I Am getting my gold from. The pots are full of Concentrate. Quite a few of my photos here came out of Goblets with the tops welded shut containing gold hair and silver tassles. There's a book that mentions those goblets too.

Back to the Sulfuric H202. I took crucibles out, and the slag inside has large in part turned white and soggy like broken down borax crystal and (maybe?) Broken down silver. Maybe 50% of the slag, all the crushed slag. When I added h202 at this point, the drops turned to pure AR the second they hit the solution. I think that's the counteraction of adding H202 to fast. I see it's spreading too, seen in the 2nd photo.

I don't want to waste your guys time, it wanted to provide some information about borax slag here since I haven't had the easiest time finding it. And I'm learning a lot here everyday.

There's a way to finish this process I've begun and I'm gonna find it.

 

[TheLamb]

Apologiez.

Course this will work better with just slag but I had a lot of slaggy broken crucibles to clean out.

 

[TheLamb]

Poormans AR is any Nitrate and HCl, nothing else.
This is actually wrong Piranha solution do not dissolve Gold.
Hydrogen Peroxide is a weak acid 3-6 pH

I told you I'm using 35% food grade h202 I always keep that stuff on me.

 

[TheLamb]

I told you I'm using 35% food grade h202 I always keep that stuff on me.

I use it to make (Hydr)(oxy)(chloro)(quin)((IC3))

PH 1.2

 

[Yggdrasil]

Apologiez.

I told you that already? Electrospectronomy at jewelry refineries, Acid testing, test kits, heat testing, electric testing, gravity testing, ice test, sound test. Mixture test.

There's this book I have,
First Page sais "This Is Israels portion that Moses divided from the Years that he and the men warned up unto the LORD, And I Am to Bless you wherewith the LORD has blessed me, out of my walls, and my flock, and my winepress"

Ill give you a clue. I have steel pots buried in Ore with the tops welded shut 200 years ago. That is enough information to reveal where I Am getting my gold from. The pots are full of Concentrate. Quite a few of my photos here came out of Goblets with the tops welded shut containing gold hair and silver tassles. There's a book that mentions those goblets too.

Back to the Sulfuric H202. I took crucibles out, and the slag inside has large in part turned white and soggy like broken down borax crystal and (maybe?) Broken down silver. Maybe 50% of the slag, all the crushed slag. When I added h202 at this point, the drops turned to pure AR the second they hit the solution. I think that's the counteraction of adding H202 to fast. I see it's spreading too, seen in the 2nd photo.

I don't want to waste your guys time, it wanted to provide some information about borax slag here since I haven't had the easiest time finding it. And I'm learning a lot here everyday.

There's a way to finish this process I've begun and I'm gonna find it.

The book you refer to is as useless in refining as today's newspaper.
And stop referring to it, we have a absolute No religion, No politics rule in here.

Dissolving slag will NOT create AR.
Only a mix of Nitric acid and Hydrochloric acid can be called Aqua Regia aka AR.

Do you have any printout of the Spectrographic test?

 

[Yggdrasil]

I use it to make (Hydr)(oxy)(chloro)(quin)((IC3))

PH 1.2

Are you in risk of Malaria?

 

[TheLamb]

Good color. Been a long time. Don't know how amber and syrupy it can get if it keeps changing states, and with all the borax muck in there. Gonna want to study the iron green now too.

Should be 99% pure gold silver borax and iron in there, 1% crucible. The quartz didn't flinch against the acid.

 

[TheLamb]

Are you in risk of Malaria?

No, but I've cured many many diseases called incurable, and I'm a big fan of micro biology and medicine, medical technology. Soursop hocqi tea can do wonders even if your healthy.

Few drops of Nascent crystal Iodine, KK's EDTA, h202, willow bark extract, turn your brain into a lightning storm.
Use it with a proper Ashwaganda type nootropic mix and cure Dementia, autism, center brain impairment. Designed to target all diseases, but this recipe is better for mental issues. Take a while to explain.

Iron Sulfide had turned the solution green before I reoxidyzed it. IS will be a red dust, the sulfuric acid obliterated the iron into said dust with no opposition at all last time. It will probably precipitate WITH the Gold dust right? Quite a bit of it I suspect.

That shouldn't be to hard to fix

 

[TheLamb]

Okay let me take this moment to say that

These guys are right about the absolute danger of what I Am doing. Do not try this yourselves, I'm walking through a actual minefield by choice.

Turns out Iron Sulfide when mixed with HCL produces a gas comparable to Hydrogen Cyanide in Toxicity. Ive been magically avoiding HCL as of yet.

Disclaimer: I eat bowls of Nitric Acid for breakfast, without ANY UREA!!!