There is always hope, where there is a will there is a way, we can do anything (Our makers willing, and within the laws of nature) we can do anything we put our minds to, and are willing to suffer through, no matter how much work or how difficult or hard it gets.
Of course we have to stand up and do it, talk or crying about it will not change anything.
We may need to work hard to educate ourselves, be willing to see things differently even if it pains us to do so, and struggle to gain back what we have lost through our own foolishness, and neglect.
Learn how to stand on our own two feet and take control of our own affairs instead of giving other the power over our affairs, or over us,stand up and stop giving handouts that only disable, learn to control our own greed that puts us into these situations, see where we are to blame, wake up from our sleep and hypnotic state, basically the problem is not external to us it is us, and we will not make it better until we see that, and take action to change ourselves or our views...
Basically we have to wake up, stop blaming all of this on others, and take responsibility of this and of ourselves, suffer the consequences, and learn the lessons and learn to do what is right.
It is a shame we cannot really communicate with each other today, respect each other enough to work out a problem, that we have all caused between ourselves, leaving the cave man to believe he has no way out but to fight his way out of the hole he put himself into by his own neglect ignorance and blindness.
I have no doubt we will see much worse, and we will see much better, all of this is nothing new or to be feared as long as we can look within ourselves, change ourselves and have the courage to stand up for what is right, we have control of ourselves, following not what we may have been falsely led to believe, or to follow in a hypnotic stupor, involving ourselves in the loosing venture of the games of the world.
Our power is from within, if we have that power than nothing external can have control over us.
If we do not look within, and strengthen and refine ourselves, then those external to us are given power over us by our own neglect.
I would rather go hungry and pay for my own mistakes, than count on a handout that would take food from my child, and keep us both hungry.
Sounds good print more money (deflate your value) to give to people to plant potatoes, problem is most of those have no idea how to grow there own potatoes, so we better print more money and devalue our selves even more to make sure they have some more tater seed for next year after these they planted rot in the field.
Why not $1000 minimum wage? 15.00 that is peanuts.That $1,000 dollar an hour to start learning if we can do or even handle our first job would do us all better, heck if we can legislative the market, and print money and have free tater seed for everybody what do we have to be concerned about?
If we are going to help drive up the price of wages unnaturally against the market, putting our nations small businesses in real jeopardy of failure in a struggling market, why do we not just let the government run the whole business and take let them over your mother kitchen where she sell her goods to put food on your table? We know how well they run everything .
why should government give us away potato seed? Why not steak and caviar? if we are going to kill ourselves in debt lets just do it quickly and get it over.
Sure, I am just Dying to go to a government run hospital, and trust a government run healthcare system with my health and care in my old age, you know how much trust we can put in the leaders to do the right thing, and how well we can trust those we put into power over us to run it efficiently as they run all their businesses, and along with them only having our best interest and health in their minds.
No thanks I do not need any governments medicine (I just cannot swallow it),
Why not blindly give them power to stimulate us into more poverty and debt and further stimulate the government to more gain more power stimulate the printing presses that will take our gold and our freedoms.
I just do not trust.
I am American
Independent I can feed himself, or my family, I never have been, and never will be dependent on a government to feed me.
I do not depend on the king or a government (or some dictator we put in power) to care for my health or the strength of my muscle or bones, nor do I trust them to run a business that determines my health or my wealth or rely on them totally for my security and well being, as an American I take responsibility for myself.
Nor will I give up my God given rights to protect myself and my family.
I will hold any gold I mine and manage it myself, I will determine what I do with my saving or excess labor, I do not trust the government or a banker to manage it for me, using it how they wish.
We can help our own neighbors, we do not need the king to collect his taxes from his peasants to help to keep the poor in control and poverty...
Well I just need to look within myself , that is where I will survive anything external to me, I can take care of myself.
Each one of us have a different view, as we all see through different individual pairs of eyes, and through different filters of our experiences and our own blindness's, or rose colored shades.
I am sure we would all elect different kings, presidents, dictators, or government leaders...
And we would all have a different opinion of not only who should rule the tribe or govern, I am sure we would also fight, of how to decide to divide up the only rabbit and buck deer among us. or who will have to work the hide to tan it and who would get it on the coming cold nights...
I understand we have different eyes and views, different minds with different ideas or strategies to survive.
I also see how even discussing the price of metals in today's environment can easily become political, and divide us, and I have to be careful of not only of getting my self banned from the forum, but also to stay out of the getting into any type of political conversation.
I do not see this as a political problem, and if others here feel I am crossing the line into that field please bring it to my attention, you can see me better than I can see myself.
I just believe we can help each other to see ourselves and our problems, and possible come to some good solutions, and to help educate ourselves, and to help each other, so we can all enjoy our freedom and our work, or saving of that work, regardless of the political fire storms around us, that we can profit from our metals, and do good with them to make medicines, to make battery's, vehicles, electric work saving machines, to make communication between us all better and just make the world around us better in general.
Regardless of the price of labor, the dollar, or the metals. or for that matter any government or bank, or those playing for dictatorship and control, we ultimately have control over only one thing ourselves.
It has been historically said that those who control the worlds metals and powder will have control over the world, well i say that would put us of refiners of metals in a better position, to have more control over our own lives if we can educate ourselves and become more aware.