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I am quite comfortable testing small samples of concentrates for gold using aqua regia dissolution and stannous chloride test. This requires only a few mls of acid.
Today, I encountered a new twist, concentrates that appear to test positive for platinum with stannous chloride tests. Not sure how convinced I am by test results, so I decided to drop PGMs from solution to validate test. I'm far less familiar with PGMs, so just wanted to run a couple questions by the forum.
Not being terribly familiar with PGM processing, I consulted the great and wise Hoke. After filtering, neutralizing nitric, and evaporating liquid to a highly concentrated solution, I added ammonium chloride solution a little at a time. I immediately had dark granuals of material precipitate out of solution. This was followed by a yellow precipitate, which is ostensibly platinum. Solution will sit for a few hours to allow all precipitate to settle out. I'll go back later tonight to pick up where I left off.
Questions:
1. Concentrated solution likely contains a little gold, some silver, perhaps PGMs and some base metals. Will ammonium chloride precipitate base metals in addition to some of the PGMs?
I've read that ammonium chloride will likely not precipitate base metals. I've also read that it will and the chances of it doing so increases with amount of time it remains in solution.
2. Related to first question, what are possibilities for dark material that first fell out of solution? According to literature, Rh and Ir will precipitate out with platinum if present. Will precipitate from these other PGMs be similarly colored to Pt or will they be dark?
3. I am seeing an unexpectedly large amount of yellow precipitate given small sample size. Might this material be something else such as lead (not that I anticipate lead in prepared sample)?
Update:
I believe that it's possible that solution also contains palladium, but I need more information before attempting to precipitate it. Back-burning Pd for now. Hoke and others indicate that sodium chlorate can be used to precipitate it. Sodium chlorate is terribly dangerous and I am not inclined to mess about with it. DMG is also listed as an option, but this compound is rather expensive. I've seen articles and videos that use chlorine gas. Again, a bit too dicey for my taste.
I've seen references to using bleach as chlorine source and, in practice, I've seen HCL (incidentally) precipitate a bit of what appears to be a palladium compound. However, I'm looking for more details in this topic. Would appreciate it if someone cohld point me to additional literature on this topic.
Today, I encountered a new twist, concentrates that appear to test positive for platinum with stannous chloride tests. Not sure how convinced I am by test results, so I decided to drop PGMs from solution to validate test. I'm far less familiar with PGMs, so just wanted to run a couple questions by the forum.
Not being terribly familiar with PGM processing, I consulted the great and wise Hoke. After filtering, neutralizing nitric, and evaporating liquid to a highly concentrated solution, I added ammonium chloride solution a little at a time. I immediately had dark granuals of material precipitate out of solution. This was followed by a yellow precipitate, which is ostensibly platinum. Solution will sit for a few hours to allow all precipitate to settle out. I'll go back later tonight to pick up where I left off.
Questions:
1. Concentrated solution likely contains a little gold, some silver, perhaps PGMs and some base metals. Will ammonium chloride precipitate base metals in addition to some of the PGMs?
I've read that ammonium chloride will likely not precipitate base metals. I've also read that it will and the chances of it doing so increases with amount of time it remains in solution.
2. Related to first question, what are possibilities for dark material that first fell out of solution? According to literature, Rh and Ir will precipitate out with platinum if present. Will precipitate from these other PGMs be similarly colored to Pt or will they be dark?
3. I am seeing an unexpectedly large amount of yellow precipitate given small sample size. Might this material be something else such as lead (not that I anticipate lead in prepared sample)?
Update:
I believe that it's possible that solution also contains palladium, but I need more information before attempting to precipitate it. Back-burning Pd for now. Hoke and others indicate that sodium chlorate can be used to precipitate it. Sodium chlorate is terribly dangerous and I am not inclined to mess about with it. DMG is also listed as an option, but this compound is rather expensive. I've seen articles and videos that use chlorine gas. Again, a bit too dicey for my taste.
I've seen references to using bleach as chlorine source and, in practice, I've seen HCL (incidentally) precipitate a bit of what appears to be a palladium compound. However, I'm looking for more details in this topic. Would appreciate it if someone cohld point me to additional literature on this topic.