Non-Chemical Pyrolize quads chips in assay furnace?

[DONNZ]

I got bored.
So, from start to finish about 20 minutes including the plumbing for the hair drier:

Pics not in order but you can get the idea. Once lit bigger wood and hair drier for air. Can add container into the top. Two tin cans and willow branches = drawing charcoal.

 

[acpeacemaker]

Hey,

Yeah, the so called second hand ash gets dried out and milled again. A lot of times the wires get locked up in the granules. The second mill is generally easier than the first. The first mill i use a mesh strainer, and strain it into my pitcher. Then use a magnet to pick up most of the legs and other junk.

Don't forget swirling some soap in is a big key when pouring off the ash. What I did with some testing was got a bunch of 44 oz tumblers you get from the gas station. Lined them up, and poured the ash in each one, in steps. Most of the time my gold wires stayed in the pitcher, but I panned each cup to see if I was losing any values. Some might say the second milling is not needed and move onto ar. But I like recovering the wires as they are. You can pick up some of those mini ovens from dollar store as well. Some will get up to 500 degrees. I hope some of this helps.

:mrgreen: How far away is Rock Island?

Best wishes,
Andrew

 

[924T]

acpeacemaker,

I just hit Mapquest, and it said I'm about 480 miles away (a bit farther than I had anticipated), in Rock Island, IL.

I like that innovation of progressively pouring into different tumblers.

Yeah, I'd say leave no ash unturned; just for sanity's sake, it would be good to verify that you're not
throwing values away.

Cheers,

Mike

 

[924T]

DONNZ,

That is way cool! What is the vertical square pipe, steel?

Is your flame from charcoal or wood that's placed on the grate at the bottom?

Very inspiring.

And, thankyou for going to the trouble of shooting and posting the pictures!

Cheers,

Mike

 

[924T]

grance,

Do you make the wood pellets yourself?

I've heard they produce very little ash.

Have you ever tried biomass pellets?

The pellets do sound like a good idea, and should be very easy to store.

Thanks for the fuel suggestion!

Cheers,

Mike

 

[DONNZ]

DONNZ,

That is way cool! What is the vertical square pipe, steel?

Is your flame from charcoal or wood that's placed on the grate at the bottom?

Very inspiring.

And, thankyou for going to the trouble of shooting and posting the pictures!

Cheers,

Mike

Something I found in the junk yard. 31.5" tall X 8.5" square X 1/2 thick steel. When I find something I go for quality, precut and has more than one use. Round steel easier to find but go thick wall.

I could make this a horizontal blast furnace and never cut or weld it. Sliding end plates would work just fine.

A bit damp out today but will fire it up soon and have pics of fuel and fire.

Maybe I'll do some green board charcoal just for the fun of it.

 

[goldsilverpro]

I recently bought a 40# bag of Greenway oak pellets for $4.49 at a Home Depot type store. The 40# filled 2, 5 gal buckets. They're used for pellet heating stoves. I bought them to use in a pellet burning gadget for smoking meats. The brand I bought came from sawdust generated only from milling oak flooring. No bark, glue, or softwoods which can all be contained in some of the other brands. It burns to almost zero white ash. The pellets you buy especially for smoking meats cost from about $1 to $3 per pound and all the brands I've seen contain about 75% oak with apple, cherry, hickory, or whatever, mixed in.
http://www.greenwaypellets.com/
http://www.amazenproducts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AMNPS5X8

 

[924T]

goldsilverpro,

Thanks, that is excellent information to have, considering I have never purchased wood pellets
in my life-----------it definitely sounds like the all hardwood pellets are the low-ash way to go.

I was just debating charcoal -vs- wood pellets last night, and I was starting to wrap my brain
around the whole pellets concept, because the stores here basically close out charcoal after
Labor Day, and don't bring it back until Memorial Day, so other than trying to source damaged oak pallets
to cut up for fuel, I wasn't sure how to ensure an ongoing supply.

As an aside. does that meat smoking pellet gadget you mentioned work to your satisfaction?

Thanks for the wood pellet info,

Cheers,

Mike

 

[Geo]

charcoal burns through a metal 5 gallon bucket in one burn. thats a little too hot without using some type of refractory for insulation. dead tree limbs is around the right temperature but doesnt burn long enough. chips or pellets may be a happy medium.

 

[goldsilverpro]

924T,

I answered your question about the smoker gadget in another thread.
http://www.goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=15785&p=159049#p159049

 

[924T]

Geo,

I had no idea that charcoal packed that much punch, to be able to burn through a bucket in 1 burn.

It appears to me that the hardwood pellets are the ultimate solution for my needs.

I'm figuring with some trial and error, it shouldn't take too awfully long to be able to determine
how many pellets it will take to yield a specific burn time that matches what's required to
properly ash the I.C. chips.

This is assuming that you don't mix the chip types, to minimize the variables.

Cheers,

Mike

 

[DONNZ]

My square pipe burn. Quick view pics and done just for the fun of doing it.

 

[DONNZ]

Square pipe post #2:

 

[DONNZ]

Tin can experiment. Method used is more or less in line with making charcoal. Starved of oxygen.

An experiment that may or may not useful.

 

[DONNZ]

Did a little separating this morning. What looked like copper wire is gold wire. Medal did not melt. This might be useful. That piece of fiber is still flexible but appears swollen. I wonder if it absorbed the resin from the green board. Be my luck if I just didn't made a new material. Those flat pieces to the right act more like metal than plastic. Can bend them then pressed flat with my finger. Don't think plastic would do that. I'll continue to explore, sifting through the wreckage.

 

[g_axelsson]

Sorry to break your illusions, you do not have gold wire. It is gold plate on copper at the best.
The fibric bendy pieces is fibre glass that fibre glass circuit boards are made of. It gives the strength to the boards and resin is used to give the stiffness. Just as in plastic boats.

/Göran

 

[924T]

DONNZ,

Wow!

That's really getting after it, and coming up with some interesting results, to boot.

Well done!

Now I'm inspired to do some tinkering/experimenting---------I've got to locate the battery charger
for my digital camera, so I can shoot some pictures.

As you might have guessed, I place extremely high value on innovation, which is why the GRF just
continues to amaze me.

Thanks for going to the effort to shoot and post your pictures.

Cheers,

Mike

 

[DONNZ]

Sorry to break your illusions, you do not have gold wire. It is gold plate on copper at the best.
The fibric bendy pieces is fibre glass that fibre glass circuit boards are made of. It gives the strength to the boards and resin is used to give the stiffness. Just as in plastic boats.

/Göran

Gold plate on copper, true. Fiber glass, true. Still not sure about the hair fine wire.
Found the resin. It seems to have carbonized into a powder.
If nothing else it was a experiment worth trying and the best part is, I didn't end up with a blob of mixed metals.
I'll see what material I have on hand for the next burn. Still have two trash bags of bank statements to burn.

Small steps.

 

[DONNZ]

DONNZ,

Wow!

That's really getting after it, and coming up with some interesting results, to boot.

Well done!

Now I'm inspired to do some tinkering/experimenting---------I've got to locate the battery charger
for my digital camera, so I can shoot some pictures.

As you might have guessed, I place extremely high value on innovation, which is why the GRF just
continues to amaze me.

Thanks for going to the effort to shoot and post your pictures.

Cheers,

Mike

Story better with pictures. I'll never be remembered for my writing.
I use rechargeable battery's in my tiny digital camera, not worth the time or effort. Did a search for a power cord and don't know why I didn't order it. Something like $2.00. Must have been the shipping charge.

 

[GotTheBug]

Have to ask, what about the smoke? I started to cook a few today over a propane flame and the smoke was crazy. Had to shut it down since the neighbors are home.