strange inline caps? pd silver or ?
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jimdoc
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wpg said:
You aren't going to discover it where you are looking.
Jim
jimdoc
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How about in one of these links?
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0oG7kjm5AtOflAA09FXNyoA?ei=UTF-8&p=types%20of%20capacitors&fr2=tab-web&fratt-portal-s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0oG7kjm5AtOflAA09FXNyoA?ei=UTF-8&p=types%20of%20capacitors&fr2=tab-web&fratt-portal-s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor
qst42know
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Some metals vaporize, and some are even quite toxic when they do.
What was it you were trying to accomplish?
What was it you were trying to accomplish?
i dont just look in junk electronics 8)
but the process of changing from metal to whatever it is now will never change and i did discover this with the junk electronics however i have changed a few metals to this stuff and with out being able to change it back to a metal it did not loose much weight at all but converted the entire metal alloy to this brittle material it is highly reflective but far from shiny as well i did acomplish this to a rock too and i think it is because the heat
i dont know thought i would share it and see if anyone else has done the same ..
i will add pics if my computer dosent crash agin ....
wpg
but the process of changing from metal to whatever it is now will never change and i did discover this with the junk electronics however i have changed a few metals to this stuff and with out being able to change it back to a metal it did not loose much weight at all but converted the entire metal alloy to this brittle material it is highly reflective but far from shiny as well i did acomplish this to a rock too and i think it is because the heat
i dont know thought i would share it and see if anyone else has done the same ..
i will add pics if my computer dosent crash agin ....
wpg
jim no not at all like those
im quite formilliar with electronics and as i said i have only seen thease in the rf amps
has anyone ever taken apart a TRUNK amp ?
if you have you will have seen them as they still use the darn things today . there aint a lick of info on the net about them i spent many hours looking
so im guessing it is the only reason the amps cost so much money
wpg
im quite formilliar with electronics and as i said i have only seen thease in the rf amps
has anyone ever taken apart a TRUNK amp ?
if you have you will have seen them as they still use the darn things today . there aint a lick of info on the net about them i spent many hours looking
so im guessing it is the only reason the amps cost so much money
wpg
jimdoc
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How about in this link?
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0PDoS0h6QtO3BUAyWmJzbkF?p=rf+amp+capacitors&fr=&ei=utf-8&x=wrt&y=Search
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0PDoS0h6QtO3BUAyWmJzbkF?p=rf+amp+capacitors&fr=&ei=utf-8&x=wrt&y=Search
jimdoc
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It was probably worth more as a working part than a melted blob of metal, as I doubt it was any type of precious metal anyway.
You should learn to test for precious metals before you break out your torch.
Your torch will just make a blob of an alloy out of all the metals. If you find a precious metal part, you want to try to separate it from other metals, not melted it with them.
Jim
You should learn to test for precious metals before you break out your torch.
Your torch will just make a blob of an alloy out of all the metals. If you find a precious metal part, you want to try to separate it from other metals, not melted it with them.
Jim
jimdoc said:
i wish it was that easy but its not they are motarola rf amps and line ex's 24mhz to 1ghz push and pull class a amps
toroide driven transistors
from late 70's to early 2000's the transistors are costly about 300 bucks each new but simply useless unless your in sat comunications or rf or ... well ill leave that there i cant sell the amps working as you need a licence to even handle them ..
if i was to fire up an amp with in mins the crtc and the black heli boys show up and just take you away so i dont play with them .. and i wont sell them i want to scrap them for the metals but cant find out diddly about them online ..
so i torched them to see what happens
and that is what happened
wpg
ill get my camera and take a picture tommorow as it is not hear with me now then you can see what im messing with
save a lot of bs just 1 picture
they are not you normal caps
and most likely only used in comm equip where ac and rf run down the same line like i have just explained
wpg
save a lot of bs just 1 picture
they are not you normal caps
and most likely only used in comm equip where ac and rf run down the same line like i have just explained
wpg
patnor1011
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This whole thread is just waste of time unless you post pictures. I can guarantee that you do not have anything unique or some spaceship technology and your parts in question will be quickly recognized by somebody.
Your approach to problem is wrong. Firstly you create even bigger problem by talking what you see and what you think. It dont work this way, everyone see things differently. Provide pictures if you want any help. If not then you can talk about what you think you have and nothing will happen. You may be very well just wasting your time and your torch gas.
Secondly - correct approach is to identify or test then recover or sell. You try to recover something you dont know nothing about only your hopes (Did I see you mention Pt? :roll: )
Talking about something that costed 300$ way back is not a sign of content. Many times it was technology and patent not metal content what you paid for. We sometimes scrap highly specialized telecom or military equipment where price run in tens of thousands or even hundred of thousands when new.
Your approach to problem is wrong. Firstly you create even bigger problem by talking what you see and what you think. It dont work this way, everyone see things differently. Provide pictures if you want any help. If not then you can talk about what you think you have and nothing will happen. You may be very well just wasting your time and your torch gas.
Secondly - correct approach is to identify or test then recover or sell. You try to recover something you dont know nothing about only your hopes (Did I see you mention Pt? :roll: )
Talking about something that costed 300$ way back is not a sign of content. Many times it was technology and patent not metal content what you paid for. We sometimes scrap highly specialized telecom or military equipment where price run in tens of thousands or even hundred of thousands when new.
glondor said:
well if you think .. all to there own thoughts
i got the huge pile of amps i have for scrapping .. they cost me my gas .. they all worked and were removed from service right off the poles all amps were working just fine
i took them apart
besides clearly so few will ever get there hands on this equipment it is no surprize not 1 of you know what im talking about ...
and im on the wrong track .....? yawn that is why i now have a replacement for THE DIODE
aint that some XXXX and i doubt it will ever burn out
:mrgreen:
wpg
hells that anyways hear it regrows teeth :mrgreen:
im takeing pictures and will up load them shortly
You are expected to use polite language on this forum
Harold.
wpg
I don’t think anyone here is deliberately saying you are wrong about your caps or deliberately avoiding giving you the answer to your question --- in fact --- we would like very much to give you an answer to your question --- that is what this forum is all about!!!
However – we can not answer your question if you do not provide us with the right information
That is what others have tried to explain to you – that you are not providing the right information in order for us to provide you the answer you are looking for.
Lets start here – Yes it is true that electronic equipment contains precious metals (or PMs) However – just because an electronic device is a vary expensive piece of equipment – does not mean it is expensive because it has LOTS of PMs in it. --- It could simply be very expensive because of the technology that went into developing it.
The amount of PMs in electronic is only part of the cost in them – most of the time a “Very Small” part of the cost. Technology & manufacturing cost is the “Far Greater” cost & therefore the greater expense to the buyer.
Next – the PMs in electronics are only used in certain place’s because of there application & the purpose they serve
The reason you are being told that you are most likely looking in the wrong place by focusing on this cap – is because “MOST” caps do not have PMs in them. MOST caps have aluminum in them – nothing more. The exceptions being the VERY SMALL multi layer caps (which have palladium in them - & tantalum caps (also “small” caps) & tantalum is not a PM – its an expensive metal sold by the pound – not by the oz.
Next – There is simply “No Way” to determine if the metal you have is a PM by melting it & explaining how it melted &/or what it looks like when melted – It Just Does Not Work That Way. There are just way to many “other” metals that melt &/or look like PMs – but are not at all PMs
The ONLY way to determine if the metal you have is a PM or not is to test &/or process it chemically.
So now – if you take & post a picture of the cap you are asking about - & someone on this forum has done the chemical testing on one like it – they will be able to answer your question
Also – the amps you have will most certainly have “some” PMs in them --- The question is are they high value PM electronics – or low value PM electronics – a question that can again only be answered if you post a picture of the circuit boards
Kurt
I don’t think anyone here is deliberately saying you are wrong about your caps or deliberately avoiding giving you the answer to your question --- in fact --- we would like very much to give you an answer to your question --- that is what this forum is all about!!!
However – we can not answer your question if you do not provide us with the right information
That is what others have tried to explain to you – that you are not providing the right information in order for us to provide you the answer you are looking for.
Lets start here – Yes it is true that electronic equipment contains precious metals (or PMs) However – just because an electronic device is a vary expensive piece of equipment – does not mean it is expensive because it has LOTS of PMs in it. --- It could simply be very expensive because of the technology that went into developing it.
The amount of PMs in electronic is only part of the cost in them – most of the time a “Very Small” part of the cost. Technology & manufacturing cost is the “Far Greater” cost & therefore the greater expense to the buyer.
Next – the PMs in electronics are only used in certain place’s because of there application & the purpose they serve
The reason you are being told that you are most likely looking in the wrong place by focusing on this cap – is because “MOST” caps do not have PMs in them. MOST caps have aluminum in them – nothing more. The exceptions being the VERY SMALL multi layer caps (which have palladium in them - & tantalum caps (also “small” caps) & tantalum is not a PM – its an expensive metal sold by the pound – not by the oz.
Next – There is simply “No Way” to determine if the metal you have is a PM by melting it & explaining how it melted &/or what it looks like when melted – It Just Does Not Work That Way. There are just way to many “other” metals that melt &/or look like PMs – but are not at all PMs
The ONLY way to determine if the metal you have is a PM or not is to test &/or process it chemically.
So now – if you take & post a picture of the cap you are asking about - & someone on this forum has done the chemical testing on one like it – they will be able to answer your question
Also – the amps you have will most certainly have “some” PMs in them --- The question is are they high value PM electronics – or low value PM electronics – a question that can again only be answered if you post a picture of the circuit boards
Kurt
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Our friend, wpg, shows all the signs of being a troll----not much more. Might be a good idea to let this thread die unless he posts some pictures and acquires a better attitude.
Never lose sight of the idea that some folks seek others that agree with them, and are often not even remotely interested in knowing the truth. If that be the case in this instance, time is being wasted. We have done our very best to prevent this forum from losing its credibility----which we do by presenting fact, not fiction.
Harold
Never lose sight of the idea that some folks seek others that agree with them, and are often not even remotely interested in knowing the truth. If that be the case in this instance, time is being wasted. We have done our very best to prevent this forum from losing its credibility----which we do by presenting fact, not fiction.
Harold
Militoy
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Harold_V said:
He kind of lost my interest with the claim of a “new replacement for THE DIODE”. The current state of technology is actually pretty darn good – so I have a difficult time accepting that someone having trouble identifying a capacitor type would be likely to have improved upon the existing parameters:
Lower forward and reverse recovery? (currently essentially zero)
Switching behavior vs temperature? (current performance independent of temperature)
Higher electrical breakdown field? (current technology 10x more than Si & GaAs)
Higher thermal conductivity? (current technology over 3x that of Si & almost 10x GaAs)
Improved bandgap? (bandgap of current technology 3X that of silicon)
Higher temperature or frequency range? (operating temperature range up to 300oC and frequencies currently in excess of 1MHz)
Positive temperature coefficient of VF? (already there)
Easily paralleled for higher current? (already there)
I utilize tens of thousands of diodes annually in extreme applications – and my job depends on them NEVER “burning out”. I would be very interested to learn how a new replacement might improve on the diodes already available off-the-shelf. Maybe they’re made from the element ‘Un’ (Unobtainium)?
dtectr
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AdamAntium 8) :lol:
Hey - it works for Wolverine!
Hey - it works for Wolverine!
