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[Claudie]

I am actually surprised that ebay hasn't removed that negative feedback. The seller stated before the auction ended that he contacted ebay to avoid getting a negative feedback if the buyer wasn't happy. That statement alone was a flashing red flag. Like I said earlier about this auction, "It's hard to feel sorry for the buyer on this auction as the warning signs were there."
Guess the buyer had gold fever & too much money....

 

[patnor1011]

But that auction was clearly made for that purpose to swindle money from somebody. That seller was clearly misleading people by bragging about price of gold and all that BS about certified number, investment and so on. He never mentioned anything that it may not be real in original auction, even auction name was clearly saying that it is 4oz fine gold bar certified blah blah....
He only later added that item appear real, that is like another saying that it may be real and that he cant tested that.
He never mentioned that item may not be real. That is a big difference. He knew and he did that on purpose. Nobody will sell gold for that price.

 

[Claudie]

But that auction was clearly made for that purpose to swindle money from somebody. That seller was clearly misleading people by bragging about price of gold and all that BS about certified number, investment and so on. He never mentioned anything that it may not be real in original auction, even auction name was clearly saying that it is 4oz fine gold bar certified blah blah....
He only later added that item appear real, that is like another saying that it may be real and that he cant tested that.
He never mentioned that item may not be real. That is a big difference. He knew and he did that on purpose. Nobody will sell gold for that price.

I agree completely, people like him should be banned (IP Address) from selling on ebay. He has no other items listed for sale (under that name), looks like he made a quick couple grand and moved on. It was pretty obvious, to people not blinded by cheap gold, that there was a scam in the process, sucks that ebay stands behind these kinds of losers.

Looking back through this guys feedback, he has at least 6 negatives but only 2 are listed because ebay only shows the past 12 months. He also has several neutrals.

 

[Claudie]

I can remember a few years back ebay had an issue with scammers selling fake fractional California gold coins as real. Most of the fake coins had bears on them while the genuine coins did not. They changed the rules on listing coins and did finally put a stop to most of it. Unfortunately there will always be thieves.

 

[rusty]

I agree completely, people like him should be banned (IP Address) from selling on ebay.

Here's why ebay does not ban a user by IP.

DHCP IP address dynamically assigned to a customer which are kept alive 48 hours after a power outage or if the customer powers down his modem, anything longer will result in a new DHCP address being assigned to the users modem coming back online.

A few ways a user can force a new IP to be assigned from the ISP, temporarily remove the router ( mac address from router is automatically removed from server list thinking there is a power outage, DHCP IP now in keep alive mode waiting for customers power to come back ) now plug the computer Ethernet directly into the modem port, server now picks up new MAC address from the Ethernet card and assigns new IP address.

Need a new IP simply remove your Ethernet card and replace it with another, each card has a unique MAC address, the ISP's server will recognise the new address and assign any available IP thinking this is a new customer coming online.

To effectively remove a nuisance user by IP you would have to ban the whole block of IP address's his/her ISP owns, otherwise the DHCP number bothering your site will eventually be reassigned to a new user who is now unable to access your site - and does not understand why when you as the site owner refuse to communicate with someone coming from a banned IP - confused yet.

You will find that banning an IP address is futile in keeping the nuisance at bay, said spammer is using proxy servers, keeping his real IP safe from being detected.

Proxy servers issue IP numbers round robin, to refresh a proxy issued IP number simply close your web browser, come back to the proxy server you'll be issued a new IP number for the duration of your visit.

Now you know why ebay does not waste time banning IP numbers.

Regards
Gill

 

[Ocean]

Good to know. Thanks

 

[Claudie]

Now we know. Thank you.
Seems like every time I come to this forum, I learn something....

 

[lazersteve]

Access control lists are a much better way of securing your network or site.

Proxy servers requests can be blacklisted for redirection off of the target site.

IP address blocking is very rudementary security in the grand scheme of things.

Steve

 

[rusty]

Access control lists are a much better way of securing your network or site.

Proxy servers requests can be blacklisted for redirection off of the target site.

IP address blocking is very rudementary security in the grand scheme of things.

Steve

Well said Steve, most of what you suggest would have to be implemented from root. Knoxx as Admin of GRF does not have super user privileges of our hosting server.

With the bandwidth we use Knoxx would have to co-locate a dedicated server then use telent to remotely administer services on that server.

Regards
Gill

 

[lazersteve]

Proxy server blacklisting accompanied by URL redirection can easily be accomplished with PHP (and other languages) which is supported by most new hosting services. There would be some up front leg work to do to make the blacklist file, but it could be put together pretty easily.

Another technique is stronger sign up requirements with verification (call back number(s), address requirements to compare to ip address, etc.). In today's mobile computing world, these techniques can get cumbersome quickly.

I agree it would have been a lot easier to have initially launched the forum with a better means of controlling the traffic allowed to the site. At this stage of the game there would have to be some complicated scripting to get it back on track, or a relaunch of a new 'edition' of the forum with better registration requirements.

All in all, I think its doing good as it is, trouble makers who get trouble handed back to them tend to get bored and move on to easier prey much like bullies.

Steve

PS: I love you posts about your animals! 8)

 

[jimdoc]

The fake bar was said to be bought from individuals in China, what a surprise.
These guys didn't say the fake bar was bought on Ebay, but I guess it was.
I wonder how many people have bought fake 100 oz. bars on Ebay and don't even know it yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBGbsr3AGnU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T8fdshyEek&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

And this guy using a screwdriver to test his;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiS2GbDbjfY

I think if I thought a 100 oz bar was fake I would go ahead and drill it, at the price of silver now.

Jim

 

[copperkid_18]

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5-pounds-Scra...958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230da5ff46

 

[Barren Realms 007]

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5-pounds-Scra...958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230da5ff46

You didn't buy this lot did you?

 

[Claudie]

The price of E-Bay gold has gone up considerably more than real gold.

 

[copperkid_18]

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5-pounds-Scra...958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230da5ff46

You didn't buy this lot did you?

NO!!!

 

[lasereyes]

I have seen this listing several times now: http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-10-Lbs-Gold-platted-pins-Gold-Scrap-Recovery-/250740497706?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a614c5d2a#ht_499wt_1155

He claims that 7 pounds of pins = 1 toz Au, which would be close to 4.5 grams/pound. Seems kind of unrealistic.

 

[Barren Realms 007]

I have seen this listing several times now: http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-10-Lbs-Gold-platted-pins-Gold-Scrap-Recovery-/250740497706?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a614c5d2a#ht_499wt_1155

He claims that 7 pounds of pins = 1 toz Au, which would be close to 4.5 grams/pound. Seems kind of unrealistic.

He might be off. I'm finishing up on some small ones hopefully this weekend.

 

[lasereyes]

I have seen this listing several times now: http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-10-Lbs-Gold-platted-pins-Gold-Scrap-Recovery-/250740497706?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a614c5d2a#ht_499wt_1155

He claims that 7 pounds of pins = 1 toz Au, which would be close to 4.5 grams/pound. Seems kind of unrealistic.

He might be off. I'm finishing up on some small ones hopefully this weekend.

I've seen that picture before, didn't you mention that it was from a manufacturer? I'm really curious as to where you can get pins like that in such great quantity...

 

[Barren Realms 007]

I have seen this listing several times now: http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-10-Lbs-Gold-platted-pins-Gold-Scrap-Recovery-/250740497706?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a614c5d2a#ht_499wt_1155

He claims that 7 pounds of pins = 1 toz Au, which would be close to 4.5 grams/pound. Seems kind of unrealistic.

He might be off. I'm finishing up on some small ones hopefully this weekend.

I've seen that picture before, didn't you mention that it was from a manufacturer? I'm really curious as to where you can get pins like that in such great quantity...

I think the guy I work with got them from a guy that had them stored in a warehouse for a number of years.

 

[patnor1011]

From closed down places like manufacturing plants.
My friend got approx 3000 kilos of electronics for price of 2 euro a kilo. There were few hundred different types of stuff like gold plated connectors you see on wi-fi cards, gold plated motion sensors, garmin gps-15f modules, telite GSM/GPRS modules, fs oncore motorola gps receivers, rechargeable batteries, and many more... Imagine 2 euros for kilo of them