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patnor1011
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One buyer is claiming that he got half ounce from his ore (bought for 120 or something like that) another left this: found 3-6 very small gold flakes, mostly pyrite and quartz crush it and pan it....
Hard to say as to his ore samples but I dont think they may contain so much of gold if they do he will surelly process them himself. That Bullion - way too dangerous to buy cat in the bag for 3000$. Maybe worth risking if you are rich man definitelly nothing for me.
Hard to say as to his ore samples but I dont think they may contain so much of gold if they do he will surelly process them himself. That Bullion - way too dangerous to buy cat in the bag for 3000$. Maybe worth risking if you are rich man definitelly nothing for me.
How would you feel, being a bidder on this auction when, after the bidding started, the seller added the following: On Dec-28-10 at 13:14:55 PST, seller added the following information:
this item is 14 k gold plated and is just scrap
http://cgi.ebay.com/14-K-gold-scrap-mens-ring-size-8-/140494670075?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b62288fb
this item is 14 k gold plated and is just scrap
http://cgi.ebay.com/14-K-gold-scrap-mens-ring-size-8-/140494670075?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b62288fb
patnor1011
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Try to retract your bid manually, and explain to ebay what happened. I would contact them anyway and ask then to retract my bid. In case you win that do not pay and open dispute.
patnor1011 said:
Thought it too good to be true , I guess that's why they call it Fools Gold :mrgreen:
That Slug of metal he is calling gold looks like a chunk of Iron that was cut from some heavy sheet iron with an Oxy then smoothed over with a Linishing disk.
jimdoc
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Anybody ever deal with this guy?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=230559955557&si=NGBN%252BLkojd2JPvc3y%252F07g2OQX98%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT
Curious if anybody else bought one of these thermocouples,and if they tested it.
I will be making a post in the platinum section on my dealing with him under testing an S type thermocouple.
Jim
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=230559955557&si=NGBN%252BLkojd2JPvc3y%252F07g2OQX98%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT
Curious if anybody else bought one of these thermocouples,and if they tested it.
I will be making a post in the platinum section on my dealing with him under testing an S type thermocouple.
Jim
goldenchild
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What do you guys think about the color of this "24k" ingot?
http://cgi.ebay.com/4oz-fine-gold-bar-999-9-24K-certified-serial-940321-/330514414888?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf431bd28
http://cgi.ebay.com/4oz-fine-gold-bar-999-9-24K-certified-serial-940321-/330514414888?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf431bd28
Looks like 10Kt-14kt at best in the photo.
Looks like it may have been polished also.
I wonder what the dimensions are of the item? That will tell you a lot about it's density.
Steve
Looks like it may have been polished also.
I wonder what the dimensions are of the item? That will tell you a lot about it's density.
Steve
joem
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The lettering on it looks engraved.Is gold only stamped?
Also the edges look polished (worn) smooth until another colour appears. I would think this fineness would stay the same colour? I would also ask the seller who certified it and can I contact the company.
As Bender says "I can guarantee anything"
Also the edges look polished (worn) smooth until another colour appears. I would think this fineness would stay the same colour? I would also ask the seller who certified it and can I contact the company.
As Bender says "I can guarantee anything"
qst42know
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If I were selling something potentially worth $5200 I would take photos until I had several that were in focus and showed all sides and every detail. :evil:
The notches along the top edge look to be from an acid test. I wonder what the result was?
I really hate the mixed lot weight from a jeweler, the same seller. 12k cross anyone? Nice photo of the counter top.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-10-14-and-18K-scrap-gold-37-grams-/330514074764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf42c8c8c
The notches along the top edge look to be from an acid test. I wonder what the result was?
I really hate the mixed lot weight from a jeweler, the same seller. 12k cross anyone? Nice photo of the counter top.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-10-14-and-18K-scrap-gold-37-grams-/330514074764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf42c8c8c
goldenchild said:
I asked him the dimensions and he answered 2" x 2" x 1/4" - note the new Q & A at the bottom of the listing. A 2" x 2" x 1/4" block of pure gold would weigh 10.17 tr.oz. A 4 tr.oz., 2" x 2" block of pure gold would be less than 1/10" thick. I gave him the data and told him I thought it was a decorative brass piece. Since he readily gave me the dimensions, I don't think he was being dishonest. I think he thought it was real.
I didn't know that Ebay put the Q & A's on the listing. That changes everything.
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That thing is not a square it is rectangle.
jimdoc
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goldsilverpro said:
That is an option of the seller.
Jim
Barren Realms 007 said:
Maybe, but it could be the photo angle. I think it's square. The enlarged picture looks more square to me.
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goldsilverpro said:
It could be the way the picture is taken. I took a pice of paper and scaled it and I think there is too much of a difference in the sides and top to just be the picture angle tho.
I saved it and enlarged the picture and it still shows about 10% wider than it is tall.
Now he states "We dont have a test kit but it has been weighed and it weighed 4.6 oz". The bar is stamped 4 Oz. I would think that if it were real, over one half of an ounce difference in actual weight would not be over looked.
I have some 10 Oz gold colored lead bars that are marked 999 fine gold on one side and the reverse has "SAMPLE" written on it. They were souvenirs from an assay office if I remember correctly.
Has anyone asked about what the back of the bar might tell us about this item? Maybe a picture of both sides next to a ruler would be helpful.\
I asked, here is the reply I received: "Hi, it has a serial number on the book. The same serial number as on the front..thank you for your question and your interest"
I have some 10 Oz gold colored lead bars that are marked 999 fine gold on one side and the reverse has "SAMPLE" written on it. They were souvenirs from an assay office if I remember correctly.
Has anyone asked about what the back of the bar might tell us about this item? Maybe a picture of both sides next to a ruler would be helpful.\
I asked, here is the reply I received: "Hi, it has a serial number on the book. The same serial number as on the front..thank you for your question and your interest"
I would like to see at least a specific gravity test (but that could also be faked), or better, pay a deposit on a drilled sample (but even then there could be a switched sample), I do not think without being there and testing it for youself you would be able to tell untill after you lost your money or did not.
I would bet the chinese could make them bars to almost fool specific gravity and density by size ratio's, and stamp with certified numbers, that is alot of money to order a hunk of metal on some ones word a picture or hoping if it was not real you may get your money back.
I would bet the chinese could make them bars to almost fool specific gravity and density by size ratio's, and stamp with certified numbers, that is alot of money to order a hunk of metal on some ones word a picture or hoping if it was not real you may get your money back.
At 2" x 2" x 0.25" we have:
2 x 2 x 0.25 = 1 cubic inch = 16.387 cc
4.6 ounces = 130.41 g
Density = mass / volume
130.41 / 16.387 = ~ 7.96
Brass has a density of 8.4 to 8.73 so it's a close match, especially if we consider there may be errors in his measurements and/or scales.
It's density is way to low to be gold, even karat gold.
Steve
2 x 2 x 0.25 = 1 cubic inch = 16.387 cc
4.6 ounces = 130.41 g
Density = mass / volume
130.41 / 16.387 = ~ 7.96
Brass has a density of 8.4 to 8.73 so it's a close match, especially if we consider there may be errors in his measurements and/or scales.
It's density is way to low to be gold, even karat gold.
Steve
