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If it were me I,would ask to pay cash and pick them up locally,and show up with some sort of enforcement agent.
 
Fournines said:
I would never bid on an auction where the seller uses "txt" speak.
I'll go you one better. If a reader asks a question using "txt" speak, I won't even read his inquiry, nor would I offer any assistance. I expect that if it's important enough to be asked, it can be asked properly. It's hard enough getting the proper message across where refining is concerned without complicating it by talking as if one has no schooling.

Harold
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/A16-SALAMANDER-CLAY-GRAPHITE-CRUCIBLE-MELTING-GOLD-/280645332766?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4157c3ef1e
Check out the shipping charge
 
mic said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/A16-SALAMANDER-CLAY-GRAPHITE-CRUCIBLE-MELTING-GOLD-/280645332766?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4157c3ef1e
Check out the shipping charge

Thats just a typo. You can see it should be $24.50 by looking at the other shipping info.

Jim

Nobody will be bidding on that until he fixes the shipping charge.
That would have been about the worst overcharging for shipping I have seen.
 
Seriously, as scrap could these pins have more than 10 Cents worth of gold per pin? Or do you think they're just going to resell them piece-meal as new pins? Searching on the part number it looked like there were websites charging $2.00 or more apiece for these pins as new parts. He had some other pin auctions (different part numbers) go for much more per pin, for example almost $59.88 for a lot of 275 pins? That's almost 22 Cents per pin.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380323316115

macfixer01
 
I always watch the auctions for ceramic CPU scrap on E-bay, and now is the point when I have to ask some questions because I don't understand the things happen! May you can give me the answers because some of you are since years or decads in the PM refining business and have more expirience than a rookie who never ever refined an Oz of gold!

So, why do people pay more than $24 for a Pentium PRO http://cgi.ebay.com/36-PENTIUM-PRO-...703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6419b9af? According to lazersteve's experiment on the PRO, the gold content he recovered was 0.31 gramms. Ok, there are auctions where natural gold nugetts are sold in average $8/hundred gramms (of course in good case), and if that 0.31 g could be sold for that price the total income will be about $25 but not the profit! Why is it worth? (Ok, I do understand it in the case of hobby or passion but I don't from the aspect of profit)

What do you think, what is the highest profitable price for a CPU depending on its type or size (goldcap,386, 486)?

Thanks,

Matt
 
He paid 25.58 for piece. It is simply because some people got gold fever or were misled by wonder ebay do-it-yourself-in-your-kitchen guides. Sometimes you have sellers spreading disinformations about gold content for the reason - to inflate their price. If you have apple you can slice that to two, three, four, even 50 pieces. At the end of the day when it is put together it is still only one apple.
 
Matt,

Other forum members here buy from ebay as well for their own refining
or for collecting. It's hard to ask people to give this kind of information
and expect them not to be cutting into their own potential business or profits.

Many folks here are quick to help with refining questions and are very,
very generous with their time and for that we are thankful. Years of
their personal research into which chips give good yields from their own
blood, sweat and tears can give them an edge when buying for themselves.
If someone chooses to share that information, wonderful. If not, I can't
blame them in the least.

Do the work yourself and enjoy the fruits of your own labor. There in
lies the greatest satisfaction.
 
I don't process CPU's, but I do sell them, and I've asked myself the same questions about pricing.

The conclusion that I've come up with is that it's not just about the gold, and that there are other materials in the CPU that make the venture profitable. Like I said, I don't process these items, but I've thought about it plenty of times.

The way this industry is so secretive with information amazes me, yet it still makes sense to protect your business ventures. I wonder if people agree that ebay prices are outrageous for the sole purpose of deterring other potential buyers from bidding on the CPU's.

I can't remember crystal clear, but I think Steve only processed the Pentium pro partially without crushing it up or popping lids. I might be wrong about that one.

I think that refiners are buying most of the CPU lots on ebay anyways. The prices are to consistent!
 
jimdoc said:
mic said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/A16-SALAMANDER-CLAY-GRAPHITE-CRUCIBLE-MELTING-GOLD-/280645332766?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4157c3ef1e
Check out the shipping charge

Thats just a typo. You can see it should be $24.50 by looking at the other shipping info.

Jim

Nobody will be bidding on that until he fixes the shipping charge.
That would have been about the worst overcharging for shipping I have seen.

Here's one that beats them all:http://cgi.ebay.com.au/AUS-ROUGH-SAPPHIRE-Massive-13-64ct-o-/180640587546?pt=Loose_Gemstones&hash=item2a0f049f1a
I have contacted e-bay twice and have given up by now.

Regards,

Josef Vavryn
 
Ebay is quickly becoming some sort of comedy central.
http://cgi.ebay.com/95-EARLY-Computer-Circuit-Board-Gold-Recovery-CPU-Scrap-/160563494528?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item2562547e80
 
Aristo said:
Ebay is quickly becoming some sort of comedy central.
http://cgi.ebay.com/95-EARLY-Computer-Circuit-Board-Gold-Recovery-CPU-Scrap-/160563494528?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item2562547e80

and bidding will be starting low $1488 ?????
Aristo did you get my message about phone number?
 
Malais said:
I can't remember crystal clear, but I think Steve only processed the Pentium pro partially without crushing it up or popping lids. I might be wrong about that one.

I removed the bottom lid and processed the enitre cpu and lid without crushing.

I have seen no evidence to lead me to believe that ceramic cpus contain gold wires inside the ceramic structure aside from the bonding wires from the ceramic to the die, and the braze under the die.

ceramic_die.jpg


I have crushed many different types of ceramic cpus and never once have I found a gold wire hanging out of a fragment of ceramic.

5crush_passes.jpg


I have leached crushed ceramic cpu cores after processing them and never once found gold in my solution.

If you are getting gold from leaching cushed ceramic cpus that have been processed once already I would venture to say that you did not fully remove the die from the ceramic housing the first time around and are getting the gold braze under the die on the second pass after crushing.

ceramic_braze.jpg


On the other hand I can break any randomly picked black or green fiber cpu with an epoxy encapsulated core (eg: MMX's and BGA PII's) and see gold wires every time. I can also pan the crushed epoxy and accumulate gold wires from every cpu.

epoxy_front.jpg


epoxy_back.jpg


mmx_wires.jpg



Steve
 
Aqua Regia sold on ebay in mislabeled bottle - phosphoric acid - 6 have sold.

For a laugh the ingredients:

Composition
Ingredient CAS No Percent
Nitric Acid 7697-37-2 25%
Hydrochloric Acid 7647-01-0 10%
Water 7732-18-5 65%

The auction: http://tinyurl.com/3v3jdp4
 
rusty said:
Aqua Regia sold on ebay in mislabeled bottle - phosphoric acid - 6 have sold.

For a laugh the ingredients:

Composition
Ingredient CAS No Percent
Nitric Acid 7697-37-2 25%
Hydrochloric Acid 7647-01-0 10%
Water 7732-18-5 65%

The auction: http://tinyurl.com/3v3jdp4



I see the description does say: This product is packaged in a poly bottle as just like the bottle above please note this is not the actual product this is just a picture for example...
 
macfixer01 said:
rusty said:
Aqua Regia sold on ebay in mislabeled bottle - phosphoric acid - 6 have sold.

For a laugh the ingredients:

Composition
Ingredient CAS No Percent
Nitric Acid 7697-37-2 25%
Hydrochloric Acid 7647-01-0 10%
Water 7732-18-5 65%

The auction: http://tinyurl.com/3v3jdp4

I see the description does say: This product is packaged in a poly bottle as just like the bottle above please note this is not the actual product this is just a picture for example...

From my personal experience once you prepare fresh Aqua Regia you can not out it in a sealed container.
 

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