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[kuma]

Ooooh Doggy, get rich quick! And he's giving you a good trade secret to boot!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/260863051642

I looked at those buttons,and the buttons that he has on another auction,and they look identical to that "Amalgamate" crap that is sold on ebay.It is glorified bismuth,and when melted it colls to that shiny aluminum look.I emailed the guy,and told him he may want to have it tested,and he responded with:
Hi, Thank you for the comment. I have been blessed with a fruitful fire. I am sure that it contains a great amount of gold. I have shined up some golden color out of them and sold 1 1/2 oz today to the gold buyer in town. I'm not sure if I will leave these on ebay.. Thank you.
He shined up some golden color out of them?!?!?There's a trick I'd like to learn.

The guy selling these says ;
'' I'm sure there is some gold in this piece by microscoping it and knowing the source. This gold is refined well, durable and heavy. Please be familiar with unpurified gold.''
Lol's :lol:
All the best everyone!
Chris

 

[Anonymous]

I knew sooner or later,a seller on ebay would get their hands on that "CPU yields list".
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-21-CPU-PROCESSORS-GOLD-SCRAP-RECOVERY-AS-IS-/110751792501?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c9523d75

 

[user 21156]

I knew sooner or later,a seller on ebay would get their hand on that "CPU yields list".
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-21-CPU-PROCESSORS-GOLD-SCRAP-RECOVERY-AS-IS-/110751792501?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c9523d75

Hi guys, I am the seller of this listing...I am pretty aware of the problem of including the yields list and using it to lure buyers into buying these CPU's but just to be safe I made sure to include the words:

"We cannot verify the authenticity of this document so buyers must do their research before bidding."

I also did the math and was sure to put a "semi-high" buy-it now price to make sure nobody buys it thinking that that was the accurate price for what could possibly be "3 1/2 grams of gold." Unless of course if the price of gold were to sky-rocket which would be beyond my control. (https://goldsilver.com/news/debt-collapse-the-case-for-20-000-gold-mike-maloney-full-presentation/)

 

[MiltonFu]

If you cannot verify it, dont use it!

 

[Anonymous]

Welcome to the forum....but I have a question,if you are aware of the problem with that list,or were made aware of it,why didn't you just delete that part of the auction.We have a lot of members here that are not keen on ebay deception.And you are correct,that list is a complete joke.We have known about it for a very long time on here,and would like to see it disappear.I attribute a lot of our new members,to people getting there hands on that list,and thinking they have a gold mine.

If you cannot verify it, dont use it!

Amen

 

[Claudie]

Honesty goes a long way. Just because you are not outright lying, doesn't mean you are being honest. Deception is dishonesty no matter how you look at it. I don't believe that an honest seller would continue using a deceptive tool such as that list, after they were told outright that it is not accurate.
A lot of people read this forum....
Claudie :|

 

[user 21156]

Honesty goes a long way. Just because you are not outright lying, doesn't mean you are being honest. Deception is dishonesty no matter how you look at it. I don't believe that an honest seller would continue using a deceptive tool such as that list, after they were told outright that it is not accurate.
A lot of people read this forum....
Claudie :|

I didn't lie, I just didn't know whether or not it was accurate. Based on my research I learned that depending on the methods used to scrap gold from electronic components (high profile refiners vs diy folks), the actual yields would vary significantly.

 

[MiltonFu]

You didnt know, yet you posted it. Some members advised you kindly, yet you are trying to justify the use of incorrect data for your own benefit. If the data stated that the yields were mediocre, you would not have used the information.. Just remove it from your auction. End of story.

 

[Palladium]

Since you can't verify the results the real question is where did you get it? Did you pay for it or just download it from Scribd and decide to sell it? Whose intellectual property are you selling? Somebody owns the rights even if the data is incorrect. What would you say if i told you i owned the rights to that data?

 

[user 21156]

Since you can't verify the results the real question is where did you get it? Did you pay for it or just download it from Scribd and decide to sell it? Whose intellectual property are you selling? Somebody owns the rights even if the data is incorrect. What would you say if i told you i owned the rights to that data?

Did you actually see the listing? It's CPU's I'm selling and I've included a link to a scribd document in the description.

 

[user 21156]

You didnt know, yet you posted it. Some members advised you kindly, yet you are trying to justify the use of incorrect data for your own benefit. If the data stated that the yields were mediocre, you would not have used the information.. Just remove it from your auction. End of story.

It's too late to modify the listing...there's less than four hours left and I cannot edit, add information to the listing, or end it....I will simply contact the winning bidder and notify them about this forum and the links mentioned below. There will be a time lapse after the auction ends and having to pay so they can still back out.

I just have to say this to those who attacked me right away, I am a top-rated seller; being honest is part of getting there.

Like I mentioned earlier, I had no idea whatsoever about the authenticity of the document in question. Nobody had warned me until about 2 hours ago when I received a message through an eBay member who is part of this forum.

Conversation:

That person said to me that the gold content was highly inaccurate.

So I replied with "That is why we urge our buyers to research for themselves."

Then they replied with: "I understand.However someone on our forum posted a link to your auction,because we have been aware of that list for several years.Our forum is "Gold Refining Forum".Because you have this as an auction and not a buy it now,I feel you will recieve a fair price for them,based on actual market value."

Therefore, I personally became concerned and did a google search to find the link and that is why I am here to find answers. That should demonstrate that as an honest ebay seller, I wanted to figure out what the fuss was about and possibly correct what was incorrect if needed. It is obvious that I have no knowledge whatsoever about CPU gold contents and instead of being educated with information PROVING why the document was incorrect, I am being attacked for being deceptive and dishonest. Just because I am using a document that 'was proven long ago to be flawed', how am I suppose to know that?

I am also not going to accept forum member's words at face value and since I was not made aware of anything contradicting the document's claims about gold content in CPU's I performed a search on this site and found this: http://goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=11562&p=113117 and finally this: http://goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=62&p=52836

So after skimming through them, and seeing one member do an actual gold scrap on a Pentium pro and the other member who did it on a bunch of other lower yield CPU's I am able to understand now, why the scribd document is REALLY INCORRECT. Now I can actually go ahead and acknowledge that the listing needs to be corrected.

-Joe

PS. I admit that when I posted these CPU's I was in a rush to get them done and maybe if I would have taken more time Googling this topic I would have found this site and the actual results from someone who did it themselves.

PSS. And thanks again for being jerks....I will never forget this forum's warm welcoming as I have become a bit interested recently in gold refining myself.

 

[epicnamefail]

PSS. And thanks again for being jerks....I will never forget this forum's warm welcoming as I have become a bit interested recently in gold refining myself.

no one was being jerks, they were being honest....

 

[Claudie]

Harold really frowns on links that aren't related to refining, you may want to edit that out if you want to stay here.

 

[user 21156]

Just figured out how to end it early, with four minutes left phew. Hoping the highest bidder doesn't want to complete the transaction, I am actually interested in doing it myself with that Pentium Pro.

 

[user 21156]

Harold really frowns on links that aren't related to refining, you may want to edit that out if you want to stay here.

got it, thanks

 

[Claudie]

We all make mistakes. It looks like you are trying to make things right and that's all anyone can expect. Welcome to the forum, I'm sure you will like it here.

 

[Palladium]

No problem Joe. I hope you understand the stance that we take here with the information that is available to the public. We try our best to uphold a certain standard of honesty that you won't find anywhere else in the industry. We have a lot of ebay scams come our way as you can see from the length of this thread here and we have to be ready for everything. Welcome to the forum.

 

[epicnamefail]

ill send the warmest welcome i can too though im about as helpless as a fat kid at a exercise class as far as gold refining goes

 

[goldsilverpro]

Welcome to the forum, Joe. I have a lot of respect for the attitude you've taken.

 

[nickvc]

Welcome to the forum, Joe. I have a lot of respect for the attitude you've taken.

I'll second that.

You might not always like what you hear on here but members try to be as honest and upfront as possible, we watch each others backs and aim to be professional about how we post and how we are perceived by the silent majority that never post or comment or even join as full members. This is the Holy Grail of precious metals recovery and refining, there is nowhere else that comes close to this forum if you have an interest in either.
A warm welcome and enjoy the many hundreds of years of experience of refining all available here for free!