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steyr223

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ok i think i said to much in "simple filtration question no one addresses"
HI buy the way

1)dilute 200ml 65%(HN03) with 200ml H20
2)add 1 kg of assorted pc connector pins (pci,isa.rs232,rj45,video,jumpers,ide,scsi all (male and female)
3)let sit till reaction end's

this is where i'm confused

the gold foil is visable at this point it is mixed with a blue sludge at the bottom
i can wash it, heat it, add hot (HN03) decant it, but the blue sludge is always present
let me clarify (and i am refering to 2 previose batches) and 1 I am going to try again fresh

if i try to filter: the sludge clogs my filter instantly ,But wait is'nt the sludge undissolved
base metal and if so why am i filtering when it will just mix with the gold in the filter

so far all the procedures at this point , holks book even the wrong procedures all
say the same thing FILTER OUT ANY AND ALL SOLIDS Did i miss something here?

I understand that the (HN03) is to dissolve base metals to make it possable to eliminate
them from the equation

i under stand washing and rewashing to help rid also the (HN03) and impurity's
and i can even get the water in my beaker clear

but i cant put it in my a/r solution until the sludge is gone is this right?

dam i did it again. i guess you guys r lucky i talk way more than i type
thx again for all your help

ps: made Stannous Chloride and its not clear my next post
 
You have a very known problem there.

When dissolving mixed pins in nitric acid you should be ready for un reacting solids, those can be of several sources; Tin (as meta stannic acid) silicon and lead nitrate.
Those buggers are found inside certin bronze and brass alloys, as well as in solder that may have been left on the pins.

You must first make sure that every metal that can be dissolved in the acid, will. (200 ml HNO3 for 1 Kg of pins is hardly enough).

When you wash with planty of water, let only floaters (powders, gold foils, organic matter) to drain in to your filter and save it.
when you finish washing, dry the solids and incinirate. (do the same with the filter).

later, leach the incinirated solids with hot dilute HCl until no reaction. wash with water and move to AR. Do the same to the filter.
 
Steyr223,
Just to let you know, texting lingo is forbidden on this forum.
It will get you on the outside looking in.

Jim
 
I think his best bet would be to use a sulphuric cell to deplate. Nictric and HCL on plated material is a waste in my opinion.
 
jimdoc said:
Steyr223,
Just to let you know, texting lingo is forbidden on this forum.
It will get you on the outside looking in.

Jim
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um jim what is exactly texting lingo
im sorry i don't have a spell checker
and i do occasionally hit a wrong key

or do u mean my impression of thinking when i spell half the word with a ... after it

now where did i see the calculation for(HN03) to pin/w rati........
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i have searched the entire post for what i could have done wrong
could u be more specific and i wont do it anymore

thanx
also i have seen the calculation of how much (HN03) to all metal in solution to dissolve
but i just painstakenly searched through 100's of threads and cant find it
can u please point me the right way
 
steyr223 said:
jimdoc said:
Steyr223,
Just to let you know, texting lingo is forbidden on this forum.
It will get you on the outside looking in.
Jim
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um jim what is exactly texting lingo
im sorry i don't have a spell checker
and i do occasionally hit a wrong key
or do u mean my impression of thinking when i spell half the word with a ... after it

thanx
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I tried to warn you. If you really don't realize what you are doing maybe you can ask someone to proof read your posts and explain it to you.

Jim
 
goldenchild said:
I think his best bet would be to use a sulphuric cell to deplate. Nictric and HCL on plated material is a waste in my opinion.
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thanx goldenchild
i am starting to agree with u i didn't realize how much nitric alone this would take
lasersteve has the vid on the construction
do you or any one else agree with this particular procedure or is there a better
one
thanx
 
I tried to warn you. If you really don't realize what you are doing maybe you can ask someone to proof read your posts and explain it to you.

Jim
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ok im sorry for what ever i did to piss u off i still dont know what your talking about
and i simply with respect asked u to point this out

i really want to get banned from the only reliable source of info in the world
what do i need to do i will kiss your feet or bow to your rule

i have been searching for this kind of info for so long all i ever read was
the dangers of cyanide and mercury

and it would be taken away for i still dont know what

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PROOF READ THIS THREAD AND TELL ME WHAT I DID

THX
 
Texting lingo is using "u" instead of you.
And thx instead of thanks.
And any other shortcuts you have used in your posts.
You need to be clear in your posts for clarity, and reading
text lingo is annoying for those that don't use it at all.

Its not me you need to worry about.

Jim
 
steyr223
i sent you a private message. the notice for this should be a box at the top of the forum screen in the middle of the page in red letters. please let me know if you received it.
 
jimdoc said:
Texting lingo is using "u" instead of you.
And thx instead of thanks.
And any other shortcuts you have used in your posts.
You need to be clear in your posts for clarity, and reading
text lingo is annoying for those that don't use it at all.

Its not me you need to worry about.

Jim
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Thank you very much jim for pointing this out
I do apollagise for my actions (and my reactions) :lol: A little chemistry humor
I will not let it happen again
 
Geo said:
steyr223
i sent you a private message. the notice for this should be a box at the top of the forum screen in the middle of the page in red letters. please let me know if you received it.
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hi geo
i don't see any red letters or new messages i did hit f5
I will watch for it
 
steyr223 said:
hi geo
i don't see any red letters or new messages i did hit f5
I will watch for it
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Either refresh the page or click on "0 new messages" at the top.
steyr223 said:
Thank you very much jim for pointing this out
I do apollagise for my actions (and my reactions) A little chemistry humor
I will not let it happen again
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I am glad you caught that steyr before I saw it.Humility goes a long way on this forum.I assure you he meant it in the nicest way he could,and apologizing to him was the best thing you could have done.
Now let's see if we can't help you take care of your problem.Did you read what Samuel-a wrote at the beggining?If you didn't understand any of it,let us know,because I believe that will fix your problem.Get to know the "search" button,it will be a priceless friend on the forum.I assure you everything you need to know can be found here,if you will take the time,and apply yourself to find an answer versus,asking.Don't get me wrong,we are more than willing to help,but try to help yourself as much as possible first.
Good Luck and Welcome to the forum.
 
hi palladium
if that question was for me about 20$ a gallon in l.a.
back in the 80's i use to buy my chemicals from chemlab
what awesome people
when no one else in town would sell me pottasium chlorate in amonts > 3 1/2 grams
they would push the 5lb container across there table with the same in sulfer
and just kind a look at me funny and say please be careful were already getting a bad name

they all ended up in prison they just didn't like that little list of dangerous chemicals posted on there wall

i'm 47 now and don't do the organics any more
cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine is my favorite word.not sure on spelling thow
 
steyr223 said:
cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine is my favorite word.
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I would not want that as my favorite word simply because of how dangerous it is.
My favorite word is gold,but my second is Methylchloroisothiazolinone.That is a safer product,it is found in a lot of shampoos and conditioners(Don't ask how I know that).
 
hay mic if u go to
http://goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=11695

I'm not sure if thats your format i believe the 4th post down you will
see how much i have searched
the problem is getting rid off almost 90% of the information that i have looked at,studied ,remembered for years out of my head
I look art a thread and right away i know how (the wrong way)
i can reed a process here and really study it
as soon as i start not 1 step my head say 's that cant be right
a lot of the myths have vanished in the last 36hrs give me a week
misinformation in my head is a bad thing

thank you mic,jimdoc,palladium,geo,goldenchild,samual hope i did not forgett anyone
you guys are my new family
so don't hold back i'm good with critics
 

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