I am asking, no, telling EVERYONE to STOP this back and forth! I don't like locking threads, but at this point, I will if there are any further comments from anyone but Geo and poudouche. I want to leave the thread unlocked so these two can use it to communicate to the rest of us the progress toward a resolution.
yesOk - I will follow by this request & not post more to this thread - "may" send some PMs tomorrow though as I am VERY busy today
Kurt
Poudouche, No one on this forum will help you. They will make excuses and seemingly cover for the criminals just like when I got screwed by a member here. When I find you Thad Kirby in Maryville TN, I got something for you...Nobody wants to assassinate his character
just explain what happened he can not keep changing the situation
either he processed the lot or not in both cases he has to return either the materials or the processed products
Whatever the amount may be he can not keep it
You've earned a one week ban.I am asking, no, telling EVERYONE to STOP this back and forth! I don't like locking threads, but at this point, I will if there are any further comments from anyone but Geo and poudouche.
Wait a minute. I disagree with both locking and banning people who post on this thread. Look, I've been around here for a very long time, I've seen problems and people come and go, and even so, the forum remains. What we have here is a topic that cuts clean to the heart of what this whole forum is based on, the sharing of information and a place for people to meet/do business/etc. There will be problems between members. If it's a personal matter, that's one thing, take it outside, but a business transaction, such as toll refining.... well, that needs to be addressed and delt with here in an open way. This issue we have here feels like a two mile long freight train passing in front of you at 2mph..... it seems like it is just dragging on and on.
Ship the man's materials back to him. Be done with it.
Pay the man back for the shipping cost. Be done with it.
Until that happens, the members here will be watching and adding comment, just as it has always been. We don't need the thought police here, we have the ability to be civil and get problems solved.
Get it wrapped up Gentlemen.
I am asking, no, telling EVERYONE to STOP this back and forth! I don't like locking threads, but at this point, I will if there are any further comments from anyone but Geo and poudouche. I want to leave the thread unlocked so these two can use it to communicate to the rest of us the progress toward a resolution.
You've earned a one week ban.
Any attempt to close the thread or banning members who are not part of the issue will beI ABSOLUTELY AGREE
For one thing - I posted some things here - for which I have been accused of slander - which I can PROVE for a fact are not slander
However - having been told - only Geo & Ludo are now allowed to post here - or face being banned
I am now not allowed to post my own defense (prove what I said was in fact not slander)
In other words - I said some things (which I can prove) Geo was allowed to respond (with some rather HARSH things about me) to which I am now not allowed to respond to in my defense &/or prove that what I said was in fact not slander
I guess now that I have gone ahead & posted to this thread (again) anyway - I will now be subject to being ban - with Geo's HARSH criticisms of me allowed to stand - & me allowed NO opportunity to defend those criticisms &/or prove what I said was not slander - but in fact - FACTS
Guess I will see you all when I get back from my (expected to come) banning - IF (the BIG IF) I decide to come back at all
Kurt
I have received nothing. Never really expected him to. I have been in a setup before and this is certainly beginning to smell like one.
This will blow over. Don’t give up.How disrespectful.
A month or so ago, poudouche contacted the mods about the material he had sent to Geo, asking if we could help. As I told him in my first response, there is little the mods can do to enforce a deal between two private parties. Our only "punishment" is to ban someone, but doing so eliminates any peer pressure and the ability to communicate through the forum, so I am not in favor of banning in a case like this.
Since then, some of us have communicated via emails and PMs with Geo and a couple of his friends. It appeared we had finally come to a place where Geo was going to return poudouche's material.
At that point I asked everyone to stop posting on this thread as their involvement was just fanning the flames that had been smoldering between these two guys for months. But some of you just couldn't respect that request. You just had to say your piece.
So, now we're at a point where you're yelling at each other again, risking blowing this deal up once again.
I give up.
Dave
Hi GeoToday I sold 10 pounds of Ludo's ram to a member of my FB group to pay for materials and shipping fees per Ludo's instructions by email. I will buy the boxes from Uhaul tomorrow and get the material boxed up the day after. Photos to follow. The day after that or by Friday at the most, the material will be headed back to it's rightful owner and this will "hopefully" be over.
I sincerely apologize to Ludo for the misunderstanding. We had a very cordial relationship and I hate to see hard feelings because of it. Hopefully by this time next week all of this will be behind us and only bad memories will remain. One day I may decide to refine again in a toll capacity but for now, I'm just trying to find my way in the world again. Thank you all for worrying about me and please do not destroy relationships on my account. That would be counter productive for everyone.
Interesting, can you elaborate?The moderators here have ruined this forum. Too many egos and axes to grind.
I edited it for you...Interesting, can you elaborate?
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