Failed! POOR'S MAN NITRIC ACID

[Alondro]

It is fairly normal that e-waste isn´t seen in obvious places. You need to build network of connections to make fair volume, and scrapyards and other easily looked channels will be no help for you - most of the times, they have deals with other well establish guys in the field. So they don´t leave anything for you. Unless you make better offer - which is in most cases to buy bulk - everything for a good price. What small scale beginner cannot do with limited budget.

Same where I live. Also Eastern Europe. You need to build name and trust in order to proceed to collectors who have decent quantities of material. Use internet marketplaces to advertise yourself etc. Be creative, fair and honest. It is uncommon in this field to find trustworthy, fair and honest refiner, who does the job in time and for fair revenue. People know this and the right ones stick to you.
Work smart, not hard - that is the rule which apply in this business.

I also do not find old soviet material by myself. But I found people who have access to such material in fair quantities and are willing to sell it to me. For fair price of course. No shorts, no low-balls, fair deals - they know what they are selling.

It start very slow from beginning, but as you go, you gain experience, in chemistry, apparatus build-up, negotiation, selling PMs etc.
For me, it took few years to cross the boarderline - that I do not spend time to search for the material, but other people came with it to let it refined or purchased by me. By the time, you are left with few trusty people that supply the material to you on semi-regular basis, and that is probably the best operating model for small refiner. Something bit more than hobby, but not your primary income.

I managed to get a box of extraordinary boards from a decommissioned 1976 nuclear launch control system. The components are so richly covered and filled with PMs, I'm holding back on processing them until I perfect all my methods, especially palladium recovery as these have large early-type MLCCs, with huge electrodes that appear to be pure palladium. I don't want to rush and ruin such incredible recovery potential!

 

[Shark]

I've heard of that method. How well does it actually work to produce nitric acid that way?

Which way? The method originally discussed doesn’t make nitric that can be bottled and used later. The method originally discussed is what I term “made in situ” or made as needed.

 

[swaminair]

I put all solution in to waste bucket and I will process letter with copper I have there more than half gram

Mate thank you for sharing this information, I saw HNO3 preparation needs sodium nitrate with hcl and the yield with a piece of copper with it gives poor diluted nitric acid.I haven't tested it, but I think only concentrated Nitric can give better yields.
And a request for you which type of ram you had refined can you explain the models of ram, only DDR or DDR2 and DDR3 because the avaialble are the modern rams even ddr4 which re the only available for scrap at price equivalent to one gram of gold.
so before purchasing one kilogram I have to pay one gram equivalent , most of our forum inmates show that only 2 grams and in rare good cases upto 3.5 are availed.
so kindly post which type of rams and pure double side gold coated rams yield this or with mild coloured or silvery quoted rams ..this is the risky part where I am standing while purchasing rams.as vendors try to sell the rams in a mix.
so your sharing will be of immense help to me.
To say about pricing I am not greedy to pluck the entire gold from the ram seller at a fraction and enjoy the yield,but to avoid the risk of loosing money if I spend for 1 kg/1gram price the resultant is the risk I face.
Any way I am happy that most of the members had refined rams and have a happy sharing and being in the forum is like a warm up.
I also request "ORVI" to share his experience with this type of rams as your experience is different where military sort of /server /old rams became invisible in the sellers arena.
Thanks for your sharing again.
regards
swami nair

 

[mythen10]

Mate thank you for sharing this information, I saw HNO3 preparation needs sodium nitrate with hcl and the yield with a piece of copper with it gives poor diluted nitric acid.I haven't tested it, but I think only concentrated Nitric can give better yields.
And a request for you which type of ram you had refined can you explain the models of ram, only DDR or DDR2 and DDR3 because the avaialble are the modern rams even ddr4 which re the only available for scrap at price equivalent to one gram of gold.
so before purchasing one kilogram I have to pay one gram equivalent , most of our forum inmates show that only 2 grams and in rare good cases upto 3.5 are availed.
so kindly post which type of rams and pure double side gold coated rams yield this or with mild coloured or silvery quoted rams ..this is the risky part where I am standing while purchasing rams.as vendors try to sell the rams in a mix.
so your sharing will be of immense help to me.
To say about pricing I am not greedy to pluck the entire gold from the ram seller at a fraction and enjoy the yield,but to avoid the risk of loosing money if I spend for 1 kg/1gram price the resultant is the risk I face.
Any way I am happy that most of the members had refined rams and have a happy sharing and being in the forum is like a warm up.
I also request "ORVI" to share his experience with this type of rams as your experience is different where military sort of /server /old rams became invisible in the sellers arena.
Thanks for your sharing again.
regards
swami nair

mixed rams old from 386 486 server rams , printer rams sdram ddram ddram2 all types but I process only the fingers the IC no , and the finger I proces in combination with card fingers , I don't know why but in general gold fingers from don't give a big yeld like fingers from card.

 

[mythen10]

mixed rams old from 386 486 server rams , printer rams sdram ddram ddram2 all types but I process only the fingers the IC no , and the finger I proces in combination with card fingers , I don't know why but in general gold fingers from don't give a big yeld like fingers from card.

gold fingers from rams don't give a big yeld like fingers from cards

 

[mythen10]

Mate thank you for sharing this information, I saw HNO3 preparation needs sodium nitrate with hcl and the yield with a piece of copper with it gives poor diluted nitric acid.I haven't tested it, but I think only concentrated Nitric can give better yields.
And a request for you which type of ram you had refined can you explain the models of ram, only DDR or DDR2 and DDR3 because the avaialble are the modern rams even ddr4 which re the only available for scrap at price equivalent to one gram of gold.
so before purchasing one kilogram I have to pay one gram equivalent , most of our forum inmates show that only 2 grams and in rare good cases upto 3.5 are availed.
so kindly post which type of rams and pure double side gold coated rams yield this or with mild coloured or silvery quoted rams ..this is the risky part where I am standing while purchasing rams.as vendors try to sell the rams in a mix.
so your sharing will be of immense help to me.
To say about pricing I am not greedy to pluck the entire gold from the ram seller at a fraction and enjoy the yield,but to avoid the risk of loosing money if I spend for 1 kg/1gram price the resultant is the risk I face.
Any way I am happy that most of the members had refined rams and have a happy sharing and being in the forum is like a warm up.
I also request "ORVI" to share his experience with this type of rams as your experience is different where military sort of /server /old rams became invisible in the sellers arena.
Thanks for your sharing again.
regards
swami nair

me I love the cards , the cards are my life

 

[mythen10]

Mate thank you for sharing this information, I saw HNO3 preparation needs sodium nitrate with hcl and the yield with a piece of copper with it gives poor diluted nitric acid.I haven't tested it, but I think only concentrated Nitric can give better yields.
And a request for you which type of ram you had refined can you explain the models of ram, only DDR or DDR2 and DDR3 because the avaialble are the modern rams even ddr4 which re the only available for scrap at price equivalent to one gram of gold.
so before purchasing one kilogram I have to pay one gram equivalent , most of our forum inmates show that only 2 grams and in rare good cases upto 3.5 are availed.
so kindly post which type of rams and pure double side gold coated rams yield this or with mild coloured or silvery quoted rams ..this is the risky part where I am standing while purchasing rams.as vendors try to sell the rams in a mix.
so your sharing will be of immense help to me.
To say about pricing I am not greedy to pluck the entire gold from the ram seller at a fraction and enjoy the yield,but to avoid the risk of loosing money if I spend for 1 kg/1gram price the resultant is the risk I face.
Any way I am happy that most of the members had refined rams and have a happy sharing and being in the forum is like a warm up.
I also request "ORVI" to share his experience with this type of rams as your experience is different where military sort of /server /old rams became invisible in the sellers arena.
Thanks for your sharing again.
regards
swami nair

but from 1kg of ram fingers you will get 3 grams

 

[mythen10]

Mate thank you for sharing this information, I saw HNO3 preparation needs sodium nitrate with hcl and the yield with a piece of copper with it gives poor diluted nitric acid.I haven't tested it, but I think only concentrated Nitric can give better yields.
And a request for you which type of ram you had refined can you explain the models of ram, only DDR or DDR2 and DDR3 because the avaialble are the modern rams even ddr4 which re the only available for scrap at price equivalent to one gram of gold.
so before purchasing one kilogram I have to pay one gram equivalent , most of our forum inmates show that only 2 grams and in rare good cases upto 3.5 are availed.
so kindly post which type of rams and pure double side gold coated rams yield this or with mild coloured or silvery quoted rams ..this is the risky part where I am standing while purchasing rams.as vendors try to sell the rams in a mix.
so your sharing will be of immense help to me.
To say about pricing I am not greedy to pluck the entire gold from the ram seller at a fraction and enjoy the yield,but to avoid the risk of loosing money if I spend for 1 kg/1gram price the resultant is the risk I face.
Any way I am happy that most of the members had refined rams and have a happy sharing and being in the forum is like a warm up.
I also request "ORVI" to share his experience with this type of rams as your experience is different where military sort of /server /old rams became invisible in the sellers arena.
Thanks for your sharing again.
regards
swami nair

20 minute ago is arrive the courier with my order FORMIC ACID I will start processing PT and pd for the first time

 

[GoIdman]

Romania sucks you can't find ewaste.
Are some places where the people sell used stuff but there you can find only gipsy and old people who sell clothes and old broken phones with 5 euro and rarely you see somebody who sell a pentium 4 motherboard with 10 euro the people are crazy I was 2 month ago in Romania and I was in a place like this and people sell only junk.
You can not find Soviet stuff with pd becouse the communist Romania was a closed country like North Korea in this days.
Only one thing is possible to make to speak with somebody from junkyards and buy just the BGA chips or 3 leg transistor with 10 cents that big one becouse the price of iron is 14 cents an for more people will be worth to look on old stuff for transistors.

Hi Mythen10,

Where exactly are you in Romania that you cannot find e-waste? If you go to flea markets there is a ton of e-waste scattered all across the market, yes it is not all in one place, but you can get a pretty good bargain if collecting. And also you can make "friends" who can then collect it for you.
And believe me, there are tons of soviet era stuff all around the country, from lab electronics to universities, schools and so on. Just have to travel there and ask for it.

Regarding the Psyhedelic stuff, your plugged in mate ......donno if the authorities will agree if you do some nasty stuff.

Learn a lot, read Hoke`s book and don`t mix PM refining with other psychoactive substances, will not be good for your health.

Be safe,

Pete

 

[Yggdrasil]

20 minute ago is arrive the courier with my order FORMIC ACID I will start processing PT and pd for the first time

Nice, where do you have Pt and Pd?

 

[mythen10]

Hi Mythen10,

Where exactly are you in Romania that you cannot find e-waste? If you go to flea markets there is a ton of e-waste scattered all across the market, yes it is not all in one place, but you can get a pretty good bargain if collecting. And also you can make "friends" who can then collect it for you.
And believe me, there are tons of soviet era stuff all around the country, from lab electronics to universities, schools and so on. Just have to travel there and ask for it.

Regarding the Psyhedelic stuff, your plugged in mate ......donno if the authorities will agree if you do some nasty stuff.

Learn a lot, read Hoke`s book and don`t mix PM refining with other psychoactive substances, will not be good for your health.

Be safe,

Pete

I'm from Romania but I don stay in Romania I stay in another country

 

[mythen10]

Nice, where do you have Pt and Pd?

I have from relays and pd PT wires from vintage diodes

 

[mythen10]

Nice, where do you have Pt and Pd?

I find in some Norway vintage ewaste around 35 diodes with wires wich are from platinum with Wolfram without any silver the sncl test was orange

 

[mythen10]

Nice, where do you have Pt and Pd?

the wire from diodes are that from my photo, that are with palladium, the colour of diodes was green with two contacts(not point contact) one on top and another on bottom wich also contain palladium.

 

[GoIdman]

I'm from Romania but I don stay in Romania I stay in another country

Oh I see. Still be safe

 

[mythen10]

Nice, where do you have Pt and Pd?

I see using formic acid is the easiest, quickest and cheapest way( is not necessary to concentrate the solution and is not any problem is solution have copper) to get PGM out from any stuff

 

[mythen10]

Oh I see. Still be safe

I don't use drugs I read that book to find the reason why the wife of Alexander Shlugin kill him

 

[mythen10]

I don't use drugs I read that book to find the reason why the wife of Alexander Shlugin kill him

Oh I see. Still be safe

Oh I see. Still be safeas work for DEA

Oh I see. Still be safe

Sasha it worked for DEA

 

[Yggdrasil]

the wire from diodes are that from my photo, that are with palladium, the colour of diodes was green with two contacts(not point contact) one on top and another on bottom wich also contain palladium.

In old Soviet stuff that may be so.
But not in any western stuff I have heard about.
Pd can be found in the actual block of MLCCs.
Maybe Orvi has some additional information.

 

[Yggdrasil]

Sasha it worked for DEA

What happened here?
Did you accidentally make an error in your quotes.
Goldman said nothing about DEA?