I should add that you could set up two tanks.One to deplate silver using only copper sulfate water solution And the other for gold plated objects using only sulfuric acid(battery acid from auto zone is ok to use).Both methods require a battery charger.Be careful with the acid tank.
anyone ever find scrap at goodwill?
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niteliteone
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triffid said:
It sounds like you are offering incomplete or bad information on how to process this material safely.
Can you give a detailed step by step process of how you are suggesting on how to do this processing.
Tom C.
Pilgrim2850
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Hi Everyone,
Why is this post even in "anyone ever find scrap at goodwill?" What does it have to do with finding scrap at Goodwill. Sounds like a chemical process or refining method, but nothing to do with Goodwill.
larry
Why is this post even in "anyone ever find scrap at goodwill?" What does it have to do with finding scrap at Goodwill. Sounds like a chemical process or refining method, but nothing to do with Goodwill.
larry
Larry,Goodwill has raised there price's so much I will not shop there, But I frequently visit salvation army and several other second hand stores, much of my lab supplies are from these stores, sometimes I even run into plated materials, did find one sterling silver cup somebody missed.
Now there is something about goodwill posted here.
( :lol: happy now pilgrim?)
Now there is something about goodwill posted here.
( :lol: happy now pilgrim?)
The only way my info was incomplete was that normally sulfuric acid does not dissolve gold but once an electric current is flowing through it it takes on a form that does dissolve gold.Once the current stops then the gold falls out of solution to the bottom of the tank.As far as finding scrap at goodwill I think if you have to pay for it you will not succeed at making money here.Free is always better.That goodwill website hits you with shipping and handling charges too.
As far as lab safety goes it cannot be preached enough.I assume that those here involved already with acids,etc know the dangers.All I was trying to do was to share my own experiences after someone else said something about using a 30 gallon cell to deplate silver plated objects.They used two electrolytes for silver plated objects.I know only one is required.The copper sulfate solution will take off the silver plate all by itself with the aid of an electric current.No need to fool with sufuric acid if deplating silver plated copper objects is all what you want to do.
Pilgrim2850
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Butch.....................why the smart remark directed toward me? I was just trying to keep the thread on subject.
Butcher is one of the most easy going guys you will ever meet. Having said that, he was trying to give you the content you desired in this thread.
Please do not let this convoluted thread create a misunderstanding. Butcher is one of the best friends you could ever ask for if you want to learn refining.
One man’s opinion.
Please do not let this convoluted thread create a misunderstanding. Butcher is one of the best friends you could ever ask for if you want to learn refining.
One man’s opinion.
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I had a long post prepared in regards to the comments towards butcher, but decided against posting. It was deleted instead. Now I'm not so sure that was a good idea.
A little friendly advice.
As has already been stated, butcher is one of the good guys on this forum. He's more than willing to lend a hand, even when the recipient may not be worthy. He treats readers with considerable respect and is not known for being aggressive. He is also insightful and knowledgeable. He can be anyone's best friend, assuming that is desired.
By sharp contrast, a new reader comes to the forum, asking a question that, maybe, would have been best not asked. Anyone with experience on a bullet board should be familiar with the fact that subject matter tends to wander, often with great results. The only real negative to getting off topic is that good information is often difficult to locate at a later date, because it may not be related to the subject matter in a meaningful way.
We get along on this forum. Those that can't, or won't, are quickly dispatched. I see to it. I often do so with reckless abandon, because I learned, long ago, it's not a good idea to try to teach a pig to sing.
So then, Pilgrim2850, lose the notion that you were set upon. That didn't happen----it's all in your mind. Do not make an issue over nothing. It leads to a dead end as far as this forum is concerned.
Keep one thing uppermost in your mind when you choose to post anything that's the least bit controversial, or can be easily construed as an attack on readers. I do not suffer fools gladly.
Harold
A little friendly advice.
As has already been stated, butcher is one of the good guys on this forum. He's more than willing to lend a hand, even when the recipient may not be worthy. He treats readers with considerable respect and is not known for being aggressive. He is also insightful and knowledgeable. He can be anyone's best friend, assuming that is desired.
By sharp contrast, a new reader comes to the forum, asking a question that, maybe, would have been best not asked. Anyone with experience on a bullet board should be familiar with the fact that subject matter tends to wander, often with great results. The only real negative to getting off topic is that good information is often difficult to locate at a later date, because it may not be related to the subject matter in a meaningful way.
We get along on this forum. Those that can't, or won't, are quickly dispatched. I see to it. I often do so with reckless abandon, because I learned, long ago, it's not a good idea to try to teach a pig to sing.
So then, Pilgrim2850, lose the notion that you were set upon. That didn't happen----it's all in your mind. Do not make an issue over nothing. It leads to a dead end as far as this forum is concerned.
Keep one thing uppermost in your mind when you choose to post anything that's the least bit controversial, or can be easily construed as an attack on readers. I do not suffer fools gladly.
Harold
Pilgrim, I have not been keeping up with all of the reading here on the forum, and did not see this until today, I am sorry that I have not seen your concern given you an answer sooner.
I was just making a joke.
I am very sorry if you felt that my comment was a smart ask remark directed at you, (not being able to see each other and facial expressions, I see how when we post something it can be misunderstood), you misunderstood.
Actually I was trying to help the subject return to goodwill.
I had no reason to give a remark towards you for wanting to keep on topic, and believe you were right to try and keep the topic on goodwill.
The Happy now pilgrim, thing reminded me of John Wayne.
Hope we are both good and happy now pilgrim (my friend).
I am sorry to others if I caused this rucus here it was not intended.
Pilgrim this forum is not like others on the web, members here respect each other, we do not always get along, but we do not make hateful remarks (especially to our friends here on the forum).
Edit to add: Pilgrim if I can help you with question, I will try the best I can, that is my purpose here, to learn from you, what you learn, and to help you learn, what I learn.
so lets get back to helping each other Pilgrim.
I was just making a joke.
I am very sorry if you felt that my comment was a smart ask remark directed at you, (not being able to see each other and facial expressions, I see how when we post something it can be misunderstood), you misunderstood.
Actually I was trying to help the subject return to goodwill.
I had no reason to give a remark towards you for wanting to keep on topic, and believe you were right to try and keep the topic on goodwill.
The Happy now pilgrim, thing reminded me of John Wayne.
Hope we are both good and happy now pilgrim (my friend).
I am sorry to others if I caused this rucus here it was not intended.
Pilgrim this forum is not like others on the web, members here respect each other, we do not always get along, but we do not make hateful remarks (especially to our friends here on the forum).
Edit to add: Pilgrim if I can help you with question, I will try the best I can, that is my purpose here, to learn from you, what you learn, and to help you learn, what I learn.
so lets get back to helping each other Pilgrim.
Pilgrim2850
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Butcher,
Please forgive me for misconscrueing your post. I apologize to any and all that I offended. I have learned a lot from your posts and look forward to more and more. I am just a poor dumb 61 yr old carpenter and am trying to learn this wonderful hobby, but I learn by doing, not so much just reading. I wish I had of started 30 yrs ago and then I could be contributing to this forum. As it is, I'm just learning as much as I can and I've been saving goodies for a couple of years. I appreciate you Butcher and consider you a friend also. Thanks for your kindness.
Now that I know the remark was in the John Wayne voice..........it was AWESOME!!!!!!
Please forgive me for misconscrueing your post. I apologize to any and all that I offended. I have learned a lot from your posts and look forward to more and more. I am just a poor dumb 61 yr old carpenter and am trying to learn this wonderful hobby, but I learn by doing, not so much just reading. I wish I had of started 30 yrs ago and then I could be contributing to this forum. As it is, I'm just learning as much as I can and I've been saving goodies for a couple of years. I appreciate you Butcher and consider you a friend also. Thanks for your kindness.
Now that I know the remark was in the John Wayne voice..........it was AWESOME!!!!!!
niteliteone
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Glad we are one big happy family.
Tom C.
Tom C.
joem
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8)niteliteone said:
My wife bought a small gold pendant with a large CZ, about 1.1 carat at the Community Thrift Store.
The gold was not marked, so the people at the thrift store did not think it was gold. They marked it for $1.99 and put it out in the jewelry case.
Well, if it is not gold, then there is no way that the stone could be a real diamond - right?
She bought the piece for $1.99 for the gold only - I throw CZs away by the dozens.
When she got it home we tested the gold and it was in fact 14k. We also tested the stone to verify that it was a CZ before we tossed it.
To our astonishement, the stone was a REAL DIAMOND!
She took it to the Gold & Diamond exchange near here to see if there was any value to it (you'd be surprised how little value diamonds have - unless they are big). They offered her $1200 for it on the spot.
She did not sell it to them, instead she decided to keep it.
I can't believe her luck. She has become an expert in identifying treasure.
kadriver
The gold was not marked, so the people at the thrift store did not think it was gold. They marked it for $1.99 and put it out in the jewelry case.
Well, if it is not gold, then there is no way that the stone could be a real diamond - right?
She bought the piece for $1.99 for the gold only - I throw CZs away by the dozens.
When she got it home we tested the gold and it was in fact 14k. We also tested the stone to verify that it was a CZ before we tossed it.
To our astonishement, the stone was a REAL DIAMOND!
She took it to the Gold & Diamond exchange near here to see if there was any value to it (you'd be surprised how little value diamonds have - unless they are big). They offered her $1200 for it on the spot.
She did not sell it to them, instead she decided to keep it.
I can't believe her luck. She has become an expert in identifying treasure.
kadriver
Pilgrim2850
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That is truely a BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great pick.
The Goodwill Stores here where I live do not have a jewelry case to display the jewelry that they get in for resale.
Instead, they get an old clear class flower vase, the kind you get when you receive a bunch of flowers, and fill it with all the jewelry that they can pack into it.
Then they put clear packing tape over the top to seal it up, put a $30 price tag on it and set it out on the counter at the front of the store.
I have seen people literally get into fights over trying to be the first to get at that vase full of jewelry.
One time I got lucky and walked into the store at the exact moment that the "jewelry jar" was being placed on the front counter. I grabbed it and looked through the glass - I spotted a gold chain so I bought it.
When I got it home it was like a bonanza! I found two 14k gold watches with leather bands, two sets of 10k gold earrings and a 14k gold chain.
But these finds are few and far between. I have not gotten one since that single time.
One thing is for certain: you have to be there right when it gets put out, or it gets taken by someone else and you get nothing!
kadriver
Instead, they get an old clear class flower vase, the kind you get when you receive a bunch of flowers, and fill it with all the jewelry that they can pack into it.
Then they put clear packing tape over the top to seal it up, put a $30 price tag on it and set it out on the counter at the front of the store.
I have seen people literally get into fights over trying to be the first to get at that vase full of jewelry.
One time I got lucky and walked into the store at the exact moment that the "jewelry jar" was being placed on the front counter. I grabbed it and looked through the glass - I spotted a gold chain so I bought it.
When I got it home it was like a bonanza! I found two 14k gold watches with leather bands, two sets of 10k gold earrings and a 14k gold chain.
But these finds are few and far between. I have not gotten one since that single time.
One thing is for certain: you have to be there right when it gets put out, or it gets taken by someone else and you get nothing!
kadriver
metatp
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I just got two little sterling silver bowls/cups for a dollar each. They were weighted, but after the weights were removed, the sterling weighed 33.6g each. Someone put them over near the baby cars seats. I was just there looking for a coax cable. Didn't get the cable, but that's ok. :lol:
macfixer01
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kadriver said:
Wow, truly amazing! I think I'd feel compelled to make a little cash donation to help make up for my good fortune on that one. I'm not saying that you should feel compelled, to each his own and maybe you give back in other ways. Hell if I stop at a gas station that actually has a working public restroom anymore I feel compelled to at least buy a bottle of pop or a candy bar while I'm there. Anyway good luck on more finds like that one!
macfixer01
pacomdiver
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jrh
did you ever get that info about the sulfuric, if it was battery acid or concentrated?
did you ever get that info about the sulfuric, if it was battery acid or concentrated?
