pedroADV said:
Harold_V : I don't think that the refining is easy ! I know that I need a book for refining but i don´t understand it so I ask the butcher for help to tell me which chapter is necessary for me.
The point I tried to make is that ALL chapters are necessary. There are no shortcuts to learning to refine. If you avoid learning any of the processes, you'll hit a wall, as almost all of them are required in the course of refining. If you don't gain an understanding at the outset, even if you get answers to your *sure-to-come* questions, they may not make sense to you because you lack the badly needed basic understanding.
Because I don´t have much time and I don´t go explain why because is personal.
Then this hobby is not for you. It is very demanding of your time if you expect to make any progress. This isn't like a magazine you can pick up and peruse at your leisure. It takes serious dedication and constant attention, so you don't forget the things you learn.
If you still think that I am lazy, fool, individuals who share your apparent mindset, so you can ban me from the forum. Make your choice.
It has nothing to do with "my choice". It has everything to do with YOUR CHOICE. You can come here with the idea in mind that you will learn how to refine, following the guidelines we have established, knowing full well that anything less is too disruptive to the forum, or you can find a different place to hang out. If you post regularly, asking questions that reflect the FACT that you are unwilling to do any work on your own, you will be banned. We've made it abundantly clear that we do not cater to such individuals----that we fully expect that ANYONE who comes to this board with the idea in mind to learn how to refine will dedicate their time to learning the basics, so they can converse with those who have experience. If that's too much to ask, it wastes the time of those who try to help, as you can't learn by asking questions endlessly---no one will be willing to stay with you, holding your hand, telling you the very things you'll learn by reading Hoke's book, as well as the posts on the board.
I did not want to offend anyone
And yet you do it anyway.
Get this straight. If you are unwilling to do your badly needed homework, you don't belong here. Even if it's hard for you to do, you MUST read the information that is at your disposal-----it is NO DIFFERENT from you asking questions---the answers to which you'd have to read, anyway. By doing the required reading, the number of (stupid) questions you'd ask will be reduced by a huge margin, and those you do ask will reflect the fact that you are trying to learn, but may be confused over a given passage.
I strongly advise you to keep your attitude in check. I do not tolerate anyone with attitude. It displays the fact that the individual will be trouble--it's just a matter of when it comes to the fore. In such a case, I prefer to ban early, as that prevents strife on the board.
So then, amigo, it's all about your choices. All I do is hit the keys. Make up your mind---you're willing to do your part, and read what has been advised, or you don't really want to learn how to refine, as it requires effort on your part. None of us are going to do the work for you.
Harold
