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[NobleMetalWorks]

Thanks qst42know
I guess they don't care about the small Guy

Under $100.00 as usual stupidity
how about. 100 $99.00 sales

If Teddy bears were outlawed
Only outlaws
Would have Teddy bears

It doesn't mean you have to keep your purchase under $100 dollars, it only means that the seller has to record and submit your information if you purchase over $100 worth of labware. There is nothing in there that says you can only purchase $100 dollars worth at a time.

EVEN at that, someone would have to believe that you were doing something suspicious, report it to a law enforcement agency, and that agency would then have to contact you in some way and probably ask what you are doing, will want to see your lab, etc. But even if that happens, you still can legally own, use and purchase labware, there are no laws preventing any purchase of any labware that I am aware of. So far as chemicals are concerned, some must be regulated and it should be reported what business are purchasing them.

Before I incorporated I was not able to purchase, as an individual, amino acids I need in the precipitation of silver nano spheres. Once incorporated now, I could not only purchase them, but as much as I want. But I did have to give my corporate information in order to do so.

I wouldn't want just anyone to be able to purchase dynamite for example. I really don't see any issues at all with these laws. I am more concerned going through airport security (TSA) than I am about purchasing a Buchner Funnel.

Scott

 

[qst42know]

The snag is here.

(B)
For the purposes of this paragraph, “valid identifying information” includes two or more of the following: federal tax identification number; resale tax identification number; city or county business license number; license issued by the State Department of Health Services; registration number issued by the federal Drug Enforcement Administration; precursor business permit number issued by the Bureau of Narcotic Enforcement of the Department of Justice; motor vehicle operator’s license; or other identification issued by a state.

No provision for a hobbyist anything. The required second form of ID is a barrier for anyone wanting to learn chemistry or refining. Who wants to get a tax ID to buy a condenser?

Nearly any new US made lab ware in a useful size will exceed $100 easily (Coorstek funnel, 4L Pyrex filter flask, etc.). Besides this gives an unfair advantage to imported lab glass.

I certainly wouldn't want to go to court and hire a lawyer to defend myself because some over zealous investigator spied lab glass in my garage.

Laws like this don't stop criminals nor stem the flow of drugs they just impose on the freedoms of the rest of us.

 

[NobleMetalWorks]

I would rather give a business name and tax ID number than my personal information, corporations are set up as entities, thus taking on much of the responsibility away from the individual person when these types of purchases are made.

The entire document we are discussing the proper way to report suspicious activity with lab glass or equipment, and what the law requires a retailer or seller to do in the state of California in order to sell anything more than $100.

I don't like big government, but in this case I just don't see the issue really. I would prefer people who cook meth in their garage to be caught, rather than be able to continue making meth. Not only is there a huge risk with a house next door exploding, but it ruins the property, and if sold it would have to be professionally decontaminated, in a lot of places in California they require the house to be tested for meth in the gypsum/drywall now. If there is a meth house next door to you, it drops the value of your own house. The list goes on and on.

I don't see any issues with it. None at all. This isn't even nearly as intrusive as the information and data mining that credit card companies compile on everyone who uses cards. Imagine this, when compiled and drilled through, your credit information can tell your shopping habits, of course, but also what type of food you like to eat, what time of the year, what time of the day you like eating it, how much you eat, how much you spend per day, what your favorite places are, and so much more. And that information is sold to retailers along with your phone number, your address, your age, your family, etc etc etc.

When put into perspective, I don't see the requirement of your name and other information as a big deal at all. It's not like you can be arrested or charged with anything, if you are not doing anything illegal. And like I stated before, if you are making something illegal it's only a misdemeanor for owning laboratory glass, and only if the intent to make an illegal substance can be proven. I think I would be far more concerned over whatever laws I broke making something illegal rather than the misdemeanor associated with owning lab glass.

This somehow has been made into a huge deal. If you read the document it is not even a law, it's general information and refers to what a retailer must do in order to sell equipment of that nature. There is nothing in the document that stats anything about not being legal to own a Buchner Funnel.

Scott

 

[steyr223]

Sbrown said
" Imagine this, when compiled and drilled through, your credit information can tell your shopping habits, of course, but also what type of food you like to eat, what time of the year, what time of the day you like eating it, how much you eat, how much you spend per day, what your favorite places are, and so much more. And that information is sold to retailers along with your phone number, your address, your age, your family, etc etc etc."

I recently read in my hackers quarterly that there
Installing hot spots in every store in the malls so
When your phone picks up and uses the Wi-Fi automatically, this can track your every "retail"
activity. So to speak
In California the phone companies can do what
Ever they want with your info
Steyr223 rob

 

[NobleMetalWorks]

Sbrown said
" Imagine this, when compiled and drilled through, your credit information can tell your shopping habits, of course, but also what type of food you like to eat, what time of the year, what time of the day you like eating it, how much you eat, how much you spend per day, what your favorite places are, and so much more. And that information is sold to retailers along with your phone number, your address, your age, your family, etc etc etc."

I recently read in my hackers quarterly that there
Installing hot spots in every store in the malls so
When your phone picks up and uses the Wi-Fi automatically, this can track your every "retail"
activity. So to speak
In California the phone companies can do what
Ever they want with your info
Steyr223 rob

Hacker Quarterly? Are you talking about 2600?

This would be for another thread, or private conversation, but if you read the hacker quarterly you will understand what I am saying.

I used to red box with Hallmark record-a-card before it was made an offense, I also did my fair share of wardialing with an acoustic coupler modem, talk about tedium, and now today I wardrive with my android phone just to keep sharp.

It would figure that someone here would mention the Hacker Quarterly.

Scott

 

[steyr223]

Well well now, just when you think you got
a Guy figured out?

Yes 2600 another thread,you um a...ever get
Down to la/orange county area Scott

I noticed your 2 years younger than me
so it does make sense, I mean we are the
first and original computer generation the
world will be talking about 100's of years from
now.
Of course will be only myth by then.
Steyr223 rob

 

[NobleMetalWorks]

Well well now, just when you think you got
a Guy figured out?

Yes 2600 another thread,you um a...ever get
Down to la/orange county area Scott

I noticed your 2 years younger than me
so it does make sense, I mean we are the
first and original computer generation the
world will be talking about 100's of years from
now.
Of course will be only myth by then.
Steyr223 rob

Most of it already seems to be myth. I have written a lot about the subject if you can believe that.

That has always been my mentality "hack the world". Now days it seems like the word only has negative meaning. But back when, hacking really meant figuring out how to do something, on your own, without benefit of being taught or trained. If you remember as I do, there just wasn't any information out there on computers, it was all trial and error, testing limits and boundaries and exploring something nobody else understood. I fully credit that type of mentality for driving me to read and learn about recovering and refining, oddly enough. It has probably served me better in this regard than most of my other life experience.

I do get to LA once in awhile, I have a lot of friends there. It would be interesting to meet up and have a chat about 8 inch floppies, shell accounts, and 2600 megahertz whistles found in cereal boxes. Did you ever change a crystal in a rat shack dialer?

Scott

 

[steyr223]

6.533 if I remember
And I loved my shell