I’m a fan of bleach and HCl
Please I need your advise/help!
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Im not too fond of that.
I prefer Peroxide or pool Chlorine since they do not impact pH too much.
What strength peroxide do you use ?
Stabilized or Unstablized Chlorine ?
It is based on Cyanuric acid not Hypochlorite so it's in powder form.
I never do the scrap the way you are discussing or even on that scale but from a strictly chemical perspective less additives is better. So my vote would be unstabilized. Because any stabilizers are additives and we want just the chlorine!
Anyway I guess Calcium hypochlorite could be used if it is disdolved and filtered in a side reaction.
But I do not like to add more solids than needed and it is still an alkali so it will push the pH up.
I use regular household bleach ( sodium hypochlorite ) and HCl I had used HCl and perioxide on my last run .
I thought there was a better product to use concerning the Bleach and HCl. I have seen the pool bleach container at Home Depot that why I asked to see if one was better than the other . ( Honestly I’m a little cheap every penny I can save goes to refining supplies or material ) one important lesson learned was , how high the pH was and how it affected the SMB drops . Still working on things and always appreciative
Jeff
I thought there was a better product to use concerning the Bleach and HCl. I have seen the pool bleach container at Home Depot that why I asked to see if one was better than the other . ( Honestly I’m a little cheap every penny I can save goes to refining supplies or material ) one important lesson learned was , how high the pH was and how it affected the SMB drops . Still working on things and always appreciative
Jeff
Personally I stay away from the Hypochlorite since it is stabilized at high pH by usually Sodium Hydroxide.
A lot of liquid pool chlorine is of higher concentration. Usually twice as strong. You may need to search a bit but it does come in 5-7% strength and occasionally higher. Again, it does tend to kill the nitric so be ready for higher volumes of waste.
Yes and it has a significant shorter shelf life at that concentration as it decomposes relatively fast.
I once made a batch that was supposed to be 25% but it was immidiately used to create another chemical so stabilizing and decompsition was not an issue.
The beauty of the powders is that they do not need stabilizers and they do release the Chlorine slowly without compromizing the Acidity much.
It alledgedly needs some serious boiling and time to decompose though.
I have not noticed it much as I usually are quite conservative with my chemicals.
I seldom us chlorine and have not tried the powdered versions but have always thought it would be the way go in our case. Oddly I have always kept some on hand to try but never did. The concentration is just so much higher and more stable to resist trying it. One day I may have to gather some material and just make it a point to try it.
But it is important to remember that there are more than one type of compound to donate the necessary Chlorine.
Hypochlorites are everywhere and easy to find.
Sadly with the drawbacks of fast decomposition and as such fast release of the Chlorine and a strong ability to lift the pH out of the usable zone.
Then the Cyanuric acid versions that are much slower and do not do much to the pH.
There might be others too but anyway they are usually sold as slow release pool Chlorine tablets, not in liquid form.
