Non-Chemical Preparing Metal for Digestion

[goldnugget77]

Hi Folks
I have purchased this machine but I am planning on using it indoors
and in the manual it says that it is dangerous
we know that the gas can kill

http://www.ronapw.ca/electric_products.html
I was thinking of using some kind of a cover over the exhaust outlet and letting the air go out the fume hood
This company makes electric but power of the psi is not the same
The one I bought is 3000psi
The electric one is 1900 ( I don't know if that is psi )

Can someone help me
Should I return this and buy electric but I don't know if I will find something with 3000 psi
or
should I try to make a cover for the exhaust fume

 

[Barren Realms 007]

It's runs off of electric.

 

[jimdoc]

In car repair shops they have a hose to vent a running vehicles exhaust outside.I would guess that the same could be done with anything,as long as you are sure it is working properly,and will stay working properly.

Jim

 

[goldnugget77]

Thanks for your idea Jim
Barren this is the actual model
http://www.ronapw.ca/3000.html

 

[jimdoc]

I have heard of many deaths from running stuff like that inside.So if you do try it with some kind of hose make sure you do it right.Maybe run it outside and get a longer hose to reach inside.

Jim

 

[Barren Realms 007]

Yea I figured that after I read it again. If it were me I would go with the electic one for what you are wanting to do if you can get the proper pressure out of it. I'll have to see how the nozzels work after I get that atomizer built and do some testing with the pessures to see what difference they make. If the gas one is the decision you can extend the exhaust out of the room. But I think the electric one will give morer reliable service over a longer period of time.

 

[goldnugget77]

Hi Jim
Its not possible to run it outside

 

[goldnugget77]

You are right about that Barren
With electric I will have a peace of mind.
The thing is I will only be using this for a short time during the day so maybe I can run a hose outside
am I ever confused

 

[Barren Realms 007]

Hi Jim
Its not possible to run it outside

Double check and see if the exhaust in not screwed in with a pipe nipple. If it is then you should be able to run it outside. If not an adapter could possibly be fabricate to convert from a plate to a pipe nipple.

 

[goldnugget77]

Hi Barren
I think I would like to exchange this for an electric

Double check and see if the exhaust in not screwed in with a pipe nipple. If it is then you should be able to run it outside. If not an adapter could possibly be fabricate to convert from a plate to a pipe nipple.

This is something I don't understand

 

[Barren Realms 007]

Hi Barren
I think I would like to exchange this for an electric

Double check and see if the exhaust in not screwed in with a pipe nipple. If it is then you should be able to run it outside. If not an adapter could possibly be fabricate to convert from a plate to a pipe nipple.

This is something I don't understand

Email me

 

[wrecker45]

i know an auctioner who ran some garden tractors in his garage went outside for awhile got a headeack went inside for a nap and never woke up so be carefull

 

[golddie]

If an electric pressure washer was used than the psi would be about 1800 to 1900
So that would make each nozzle to have 475 psi
would it be a good idea to make the atomizer with 3 spray nozzles instead of 4


http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/ecatalog/N-/No-64/Ntt-Stainless+Steel+nipples
If you look at he pipes here they say 150 psi
How come so low psi
would these pipes be able to carry 475 psi

 

[Barren Realms 007]

If an electric pressure washer was used than the psi would be about 1800 to 1900
So that would make each nozzle to have 475 psi
would it be a good idea to make the atomizer with 3 spray nozzles instead of 4


http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/ecatalog/N-/No-64/Ntt-Stainless+Steel+nipples
If you look at he pipes here they say 150 psi
How come so low psi
would these pipes be able to carry 475 psi

That is what they are rated for at industry standard. However they will hold a lot more pressure than that. Although it is at the customers responsablity. I have run black piping for hydraulic lines in the past. Had one piece split at the seam one time. Type K copper tubing is rated at 150 psi if I remember right but it will hold 350 and up because this is the pressure of an HVAC line set during operation. I don't remember what the new 410 systems run at but it is higher than that. I have seen copper tubing hold 45o PSI with no problem. However if you run these pressures it is at your own risk when you go above the mfg. recomendations.

 

[qst42know]

At least consider the Parker fittings for higher pressure ratings.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/ecatalog/N-1z0r52t/Ntt-Stainless+Steel+nipples

If a bit of crud blocks a nozzle or two and you will get a fast spike of pressure.

 

[Barren Realms 007]

It will be taken into consideration. Thanks

 

[goldsilverpro]

If an electric pressure washer was used than the psi would be about 1800 to 1900
So that would make each nozzle to have 475 psi

I've thought about this since you wrote it. Wouldn't the pressure be constant in an arrangement like this - 1800 to 1900 psi at each nozzle? The flow would be additive. Analogous to voltage and amperage in a series circuit.

 

[Barren Realms 007]

If an electric pressure washer was used than the psi would be about 1800 to 1900
So that would make each nozzle to have 475 psi

I've thought about this since you wrote it. Wouldn't the pressure be constant in an arrangement like this - 1800 to 1900 psi at each nozzle? The flow would be additive. Analogous to voltage and amperage in a series circuit.

Yes you are correct it should be.

 

[HAuCl4]

If an electric pressure washer was used than the psi would be about 1800 to 1900
So that would make each nozzle to have 475 psi

I've thought about this since you wrote it. Wouldn't the pressure be constant in an arrangement like this - 1800 to 1900 psi at each nozzle? The flow would be additive. Analogous to voltage and amperage in a series circuit.

Do not waste another thought. It is exactly as you posted. The only issue is the volume/flow that the pump is capable of. For low flow pumps one can build an "hydraulic capacitor", which is a simple hi-pressure air/water tank with enough volume to handle the whole atomizing job. This allows a small, cheaper pump to handle almost any size job.8)

edit: I see barren beat me to the answer... :shock:

 

[golddie]

Gsp you have given this subject a new perspective

"hydraulic capacitor", which is a simple hi-pressure air/water tank

HAuCl4
what would this setup look like