Traveller11
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okieminer said:Im new to this but Im trying to leach ore with chlorine and hci. My ore has been assayed at 2+ O/T. I have crushed it and ran it over a RP-4 table and have panned it also with no visible gold. Would like to know a possible mix using bleach or swimming pool chlorine. And if you can use sodium bisulfate to take the gold solution back to a powder. Can someone please help me by giving me a mix ratio as in 2 cups of this to 1 cup of this. I know that is really basic but that is what I need. Thank you
What I am about to give you has not been proven by me yet, although it is the best interpretation of methods from the 1890's I can make.
Pour liquid Clorox bleach (6%) into a container, or mix calcium hypochlorite powder (pool chlorine) and water to get a stronger hypochlorite solution. A 15% solution of calcium hypochlorite should be sufficient.
Wearing acid resistant gloves and clothing, respirator with cartridges to filter chlorine gas and safety glasses or face shield, begin adding tiny amounts of HCl to bleach. Be careful, as there will be some reaction as acid meets base. Between additions of HCl, test the pH of the solution with a pH meter. Slowly but surely bring the pH down to 7.5. At pH 7.5, about 50% of the hypochlorite will have become hypochlorous acid (HOCl). If you do not allow the solution to become acidic (- pH 7), chlorine gas production should be kept to a minimum and will not be detectable. However, under pH 5, great amounts of chlorine gas will be made.
It should be pointed out that, due to the instability of HOCl at atmospheric pressure, the above procedure should not be done until you are ready to use the HOCl.
Once the pH is at 7.5, stop adding HCl. At this point, add either sodium chloride or calcium chloride to about 20% of volume. Stir until dissolved. The actual amount of these chlorides is not critical as long as there is enough chloride present to put all of your gold into solution.
You must now have a plastic cylinder capable of holding your ground ore. Any copper or iron in your material that is not tied up as an oxide will spoil this process. This applies to any metal fittings on the cylinder, as well, as they will react with chlorine. The cylinder must be capable of being completely filled with chlorine solution, completely expelling any air inside the cylinder. Any large airspace inside the cylinder will allow the oxygen in the HOCl to be lost, making it into HCl and lowering the pH of the solution. By minimizing any airspace in the cylinder to almost nothing, only a small amount of oxygen lost from the HOCl will be sufficient to raise the pressure of that irspace higher than the maximum pressure at which HOCl can lose oxygen. An alternative is to pump air, through plastic fittings, into the cylinder until a pressure of 60 psi is obtained. This will also keep the HOCl from degrading to HCl but requires a much sturdier cylinder capable of withstanding this elevated pressure. Remember, no metal in contact with chlorine solution unless that metal is lead or titanium.
There must be a way of revolving this cylinder to keep all of the ore in contact with the chlorine solution during the period of leaching. Plastic bars lengthwise inside the cylinder will help to keep the ore mixed with the solution, something like the clay breaking bars inside a trommel keep things moving.
Once all of this is done, revolve the cylinder for four hours, then open the cylinder and immediately (before the pH begins to drop) filter liquid to remove any ore solids. Wash ore with spray to recover any solution holding gold. Gold can then be precipitated from solution using sodium metabisulphite (not sodium bisulphate) or ferrous sulphate. Test ore and solution with stannous chloride to make sure all gold is recovered.
I am at the stage of building a small test unit from 4" ABS plumbing fittings and a 1/2" PVC ball valve. After that comes a platform with rollers on it where the cylinder can be driven by a belt from an electric motor. Although it looks simple, it gets quite complicated, and the real challenge will be scaling this up to a unit capable of processing 20 gallons at a time.
Please keep notes on anything you do and, if you discover anything worthy of note, I would appreciate your sharing this information.
Good luck!