Sodium Nitrate 50 lbs, ships to U.S.A. / Canada

[lasereyes]

Was there less salt bypoduct when you freeze it?

No, I used the same amount of reagents when I did the side by side tests with Duda's and Bonide. The dirty Bonide stuff made a better nitric that was easier to separate from the salt. Once I filtered the hot concentrated nitrate solution it was nearly clear, maybe slightly straw colored.

I was very surprised, but I ran the test as I was suspicious that Duda's nitrate said it was less than 100% pure on the bag and was getting odd results after the freezer step. When I use it in my Poorman's recipe's it always wants to 'soap up' too.

As I said, I'm on my last 10# from Duda and I'm hell bent locating a new source for less money.

I'm still closing the deal with the new supplier and will share more when I get the final cost figures and make a batch of HNO3 with it.

Steve

Hey Steve,

How much nitric acid are you able to make at a time?

 

[Barren Realms 007]

3-4 gals at a time is pretty easy.

 

[lasereyes]

3-4 gals at a time is pretty easy.

wow... what kind of containers do you need for that?

 

[Barren Realms 007]

3-4 gals at a time is pretty easy.

wow... what kind of containers do you need for that?

(2) 2000ml beakers, a hot plate, a 5 gal bucket and an ice chest.

 

[goldenchild]

If you want to quickly make serious amounts...
-buy a 5 gallon stainless steel crab pot
-put 10 pounds of nitrate in a 5 gallon PLASTIC bucket
-boil enough water in the crab pot to have 500ml of distilled water for every 600 grams of sodium nitrate
-as the water boils use a pot as a giant laddle and add to the nitrate and stir
-after the nitrate has dissolved add 200ml of sulfuric acid for every 600 grams of nitrate(slowly!)
-let condense and pour off into containers

Notes:
-you can process more than 10 pounds at a time
-a small amount of undissolved nitrate is ok because the sulphuric acid will generate enough heat to dissolve it
-if you dont live in a cold climate you will need to either use an ice bath or have a dedicated freezer for condensing
-when adding the sulphuric acid do so while stirring and try to get the acid in the vortex funnel. this will distribute the acid evenly preventing the solution from creating hot spots and spitting. done this way you can actually add the acid rather quickly
-you could probably dissolve the nitrate right in the crab pot but I've never tried it

 

[Barren Realms 007]

If you want to quickly make serious amounts...
-buy a 5 gallon stainless steel crab pot
-put 10 pounds of nitrate in a 5 gallon PLASTIC bucket
-boil enough water in the crab pot to have 500ml of distilled water for every 600 grams of sodium nitrate
-as the water boils use a pot as a giant laddle and add to the nitrate and stir
-after the nitrate has dissolved add 200ml of sulfuric acid for every 600 grams of nitrate(slowly!)
-let condense and pour off into containers

Notes:
-you can process more than 10 pounds at a time
-a small amount of undissolved nitrate is ok because the sulphuric acid will generate enough heat to dissolve it
-if you dont live in a cold climate you will need to either use an ice bath or have a dedicated freezer for condensing
-when adding the sulphuric acid do so while stirring and try to get the acid in the vortex funnel. this will distribute the acid evenly preventing the solution from creating hot spots and spitting. done this way you can actually add the acid rather quickly
-you could probably dissolve the nitrate right in the crab pot but I've never tried it

I have actually use the SS bucket to disslove the nitrate in at times and have had no problem doing it. And then finish it off in the plastic bucket.

 

[lasereyes]

If you want to quickly make serious amounts...
-buy a 5 gallon stainless steel crab pot
-put 10 pounds of nitrate in a 5 gallon PLASTIC bucket
-boil enough water in the crab pot to have 500ml of distilled water for every 600 grams of sodium nitrate
-as the water boils use a pot as a giant laddle and add to the nitrate and stir
-after the nitrate has dissolved add 200ml of sulfuric acid for every 600 grams of nitrate(slowly!)
-let condense and pour off into containers

Notes:
-you can process more than 10 pounds at a time
-a small amount of undissolved nitrate is ok because the sulphuric acid will generate enough heat to dissolve it
-if you dont live in a cold climate you will need to either use an ice bath or have a dedicated freezer for condensing
-when adding the sulphuric acid do so while stirring and try to get the acid in the vortex funnel. this will distribute the acid evenly preventing the solution from creating hot spots and spitting. done this way you can actually add the acid rather quickly
-you could probably dissolve the nitrate right in the crab pot but I've never tried it

I will try this once I get over my fear of large amounts of hot acids.

 

[Oz]

I will try this once I get over my fear of large amounts of hot acids.

It is not fear, it is common sense you are showing (not all that common actually). Everyone wants to do things better, bigger, stronger, and faster. That is more often than not a mistake.

Never start a procedure in chemistry for the first time in anything other than very small amounts.