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chrishawn

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I have not been able to recover a proper amount of gold due to lack of proper tools and funds,so i am looking to sell my 2 lbs of med to high yeald gold pins @ contacts. I wanted to offer them to the forum. I dont know what their worth but i do know that most folks on this forum will be straight with me, so let me know. P.S. I also have 20 or so lbs of boards preped for refining aswell as ram memory w/ gold fingers. Thanks to all!
 

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You will not see very much gold(per pound) from these pins due to the very low surface to mass ratio.However most bidders on ebay do not take that into consideration,so my vote is,if you want the most money,then put them for sale on there.Same with the boards.
 
chrishawn said:
some came from some nasa computers others just regular computers. Thanks you guys. :lol:

Where the stuff is from, and whether it's "Mil-Spec" or NASA or what, has zero importance. What it's really worth is what's important. Stuff from "Joe Blow" electronics company might be worth more than the same looking item from NASA.

One time, when I was young and stupid, I got involved with running tons of beautiful electronic scrap, without assays, from a scrapped out US Navy submarine. The stuff looked great but it was crap and I lost money. I was blinded by where it came from. Live and learn. I now have zero trust for labels or origins.

In the long run, for values, I trust only 2 things totally: sampling and assaying (done by me) or refining results (done by me).
 
In the long run, for values, I trust only 2 things totally: sampling and assaying (done by me) or refining results (done by me).
I have to be honest,I don't think I could've said it better myself.
The only person on planet earth that you know will NEVER lie to you,is yourself.
 
mic said:
The only person on planet earth that you know will NEVER lie to you,is yourself.
You obviously do not know my brother.

Harold
 
Harold_V said:
mic said:
The only person on planet earth that you know will NEVER lie to you,is yourself.
You obviously do not know my brother.

Harold

are you saying that your brother lies to himself? or that he is someone you KNOW will never lie to you, his brother harold??

haha, just trying to ascertain whether this brother you speak of is a little nuts or just a great brother who you know you can count on...

btw, no offense intended...just found it kinda funny...
 
No offense taken.

My brother is very adept at telling things the way he wants them to be, often when the truth would be much better. I have come to realize he believes his own lies, which is why I suggested you had never met my brother.

We are not close----in fact, we don't speak to one another. For a time, we lived at opposite corners of the US---he in Florida, I in Washington State.

It is nothing short of amazing that two people that are raised under a common roof can have such different values. Aside from sharing the same parents, and both enjoying a drink of scotch on occasion, we have almost nothing in common. I haven't shaved since 1964------he has never grown a beard. He is rarely found dressed in anything but a suit, often white, or yellow. I do not own a neck tie, nor do I own a suit, aside from a few flamboyant suits --tails----bell bottoms---side stripes---worn with ruffled shirts. I wear an ear ring----an 18K gold hoop that was once a gentleman's wedding band. He wouldn't think of that, no more than he'd think of wearing work clothing.
Edit: I left out my almost shoulder length white/gray hair.
As I said, we're very different.

Sorry for this off topic subject. I'll try to do better. :)

Harold
 
Harold_V said:
Sorry for this off topic subject. I'll try to do better.

Prattle on my friend, I think it is healthy to have things a bit personal at times to break up the technical side of this business. I'm sure that the description you gave of yourself rocked a few back on their stools, and it will be interesting to hear the commentary.

By necessity we gather first impressions based on physical appearance in real life and apply the closest stereotype as fact, until we “learn” differently. In a forum we have no guidance but the words we see, typically they are far more accurate of an impression than ones outward appearance.

I met my current girlfriend of 4 years online. We had exchanged emails for several months before meeting in person and she later confessed that she had been concerned that upon meeting me she would “knock me of my church pew” (oh Lord, she had a tattoo), needless to say I was always polite and articulate in our correspondence.

I laughed my butt off and tease her about it to this day (now darling, don't go knocking me of my church pew). Despite me telling her I was a bit rough around the edges and had a rough background that could curl toes (with some details), she could not reconcile that with the way I wrote and imagine how I would/could be stereotyped if seen in person (6'4”, 220lbs, typically unshaven, tattoos, pierced, and open carry). Frankly had she met me on the street instead of getting to know me first online she would have quite likely judged me as an uneducated lowlife biker at first glance.

I know which of my 3 forks to use for what, have handled multi-million dollar business meetings and can walk down skid row, both in comfort and safely. I can look the part and behave appropriately in either situation. Other than clothes, demeanor, and vocabulary, the only thing I may need to change at times for business is the length of my hair.

To add some perspective to this since I have gone this far, they say it is the clothes that make the man. That is a lie, it is the words, ethics, knowledge, skill, and deeds, that make the man. The rest is window dressing or stereotypes if you will. How many posers have you met today?

While I hate stereotypes I understand their necessity. I am sure that Harold shattered some members mental image of who he is, he is still the same man. It might be interesting to see some of our more prolific members speak of themselves. You would be surprised by many.

Harold has said that we are what we write, I agree.
 
Well to be honest I don't care what people wear what colour they are or what religion they follow, if they have good manners and don't try to impress or bully I'm fine with them. As to me well I'm 5.9 about 200 lb gone grey wear spectacles and rarely wear a jacket let alone a suit , denims t shirt and trainers are my favoured dress code. I don't take offence easily and try to see the best in people and will help anyone if I can, love animals women and kids but since the divorce don't want to keep any of them :lol: I have more friends the age my kids are than my own age group but decline invites to clubs and music festivals now as I can't keep up with them , but hell they keep you laughing. I have few hang ups and can happily go into any situation or area from run down back street bars to the Ritz.
I have been up and I have been down but through all lifes trials the most important things to me are my reputation and the knowledge that come what may I have done my best and always tried to do the right thing. PS I forgot the bad back :lol:
 
Oz said:
if seen in person (6'4”, 220lbs, typically unshaven, tattoos, pierced, and open carry).
Damn, Oz, had I known I'd have been a little kinder to you! 8)

Harold
 
Harold, you are welcome to beat me up any day of the week.

I say that because of your words here. Over the years I have known you, you speak as a man that is exacting in nature and harder on himself than on others. Although you may be opinionated and firm in your beliefs you are always open to respectful opinions expressed by others that differ from yours. You are not unyielding as I have seen you change your mind after others have intelligently and politely expressed their facts/beliefs/opinions. You are open to agreeing to disagree, not always needing to be right. When you correct others it is for the purpose of educating and sharing with them based on your life's experiences. It is not done due to the need to be right or from the need of an ego boost. Many newcomers that have not had the luxury to read your words over the years miss this and take offense.

Did I mention you have EARNED my respect. Not that you needed it.

To those that find my commentary perhaps subject to prejudice, read into the past here and you will see that Harold and I have had to agree to disagree in the past. For the record, I have never met the man or even talked to him on the phone. What I know of him, you do as well, if you read the forum.

Now back to your reply Harold. I know that you were yanking my chain, but out of all I wrote, I surely hope that is not what others got as the take-away message. It was only to give context.

Yes I am a big guy that has been around the block. I was an angry youth that went out on his own at 14 (that will teach you quickly about the real world), but that was many years ago. My past taught me much (the hard way) and it has made me one of the most even tempered people you will ever meet to the dismay of most (being even tempered will keep you alive in bad places). Even when people try to piss me off I usually just find entertainment value in their distress instead of responding as they expect (that really pisses them off, not my problem). As to the open carry, I even mow my lawn with a sidearm. When my neighbors ask my why, I ask them why they do not. They do not know that I buy/sell/refine precious metals as I do not do it at my residence. There are however enough in the area that know I carry cash and valuables. One would be a fool in this crackhead world to be in this business and not carry. One mans opinion.

Nick, I thank you for the personal view you gave of your life. It is nice to have some insights into some of the membership beyond their technical expertise. I pay attention to your posts because of their value. It is worth mentioning that I would be more inclined to trust you in business knowing more about you personally and not just your refining skill. Unabashed honesty is a hard thing to find and speaks well for a persons character and how they will handle their other affairs in my opinion.

It seems the 3 of us have made others shy.
 
mic said:
The only person on planet earth that you know will NEVER lie to you,is yourself.
This is probably the biggest lie we believe.

If we believe the lies we tell ourselves, we never think we are lying to ourselves.
 
Well I am 5'11" 160# wet, born in Kentucky, My father had a different name than me so guess I have been a fatherless *******, seen my mother kill herself when I was four years old, raised my lil sis and brother since he was 6months old, we were shipped all over, from one family to the next, usually as young laborers, most of the time was never in a one school for a full year, and never learned the basics, even after eleven years of school I could not read, been on my own since 12 years old, worked my whole life and Am still a workaholic, uneducated but not dumb, can fix or make almost anything, lived in Kentucky, Texas, and grand canyon Arizona, now in Oregon, I was born in the wrong century , a backwoodsman at heart, and although my skin is white, my blood is Indian (Cherokee), must have took after my father as my mother had black hair and eyes and the dark skin, I been married for 38 years to same woman, A Good woman, lost one son, but have two of the best daughters in the world, I am so proud of them, I did work them too hard as they were growing up, work is all I know, never put them in school (hell if they could not teach me to read in eleven years they sure were not going to brainwash my children)they taught themselves, both got GEDs and both have went to college (paid their own way), both my girls started work young, at twelve they were farm hands for a vineyards, my youngest girl took my advice and saved every penny she made, she invested in silver, as a savings account, she bought 5 acres which we developed and built her first home on, she started having heart trouble and moved to town to be closer to work, and is buying her second home, so she can be close to the factory she works in, as the state has took her drivers license because of seizures she has. MY older daughter is married, a hard worker, she works for herself and wears many hats, she breaks horses and trains them, delivers newspapers and caretakers for ranches, she has a dental assistance license but prefers to work outdoors. I have lived in poverty a good portion of my life, but always fed my family, even if it was cutting firewood, and skinning road kill for supper, I own 5 acres and a manufactured home now, developed the property myself, here in the woods of Oregon, have a bad back and need a new hip replacement, but that does not slow me down, fell 60 foot from a radio tower when I was younger, broke my back, powdered both femurs, took three years and many operations, before I could walk without tools, but even then I worked at any job I could do, never had took a dime from anybody not even the government, and will starve before I do.
I have always tried to do the right thing, have lived a rough life, but always done the best I could, my hobby now is gold refining, and learning from all of you people, funny thing is I am a loner, cannot stand to be around more than one person at a time, I do ok with one person when I get to Know them, and are usually good friends, but you get more than one person around me and I am ready to head for the mountains, I do not have social skills, and so it is kind of funny for me here to be on this social forum. but what a great group of people here on this forum and they all like gold and so there is much to learn.
 
butcher said:
Well I am 5'11" 160# wet, born in Kentucky, My father had a different name than me so guess I have been a fatherless *******, seen my mother kill herself when I was four years old, raised my lil sis and brother since he was 6months old, we were shipped all over, from one family to the next, usually as young laborers, most of the time was never in a one school for a full year, and never learned the basics, even after eleven years of school I could not read, been on my own since 12 years old, worked my whole life and Am still a workaholic, uneducated but not dumb, can fix or make almost anything, lived in Kentucky, Texas, and grand canyon Arizona, now in Oregon, I was born in the wrong century , a backwoodsman at heart, and although my skin is white, my blood is Indian (Cherokee), must have took after my father as my mother had black hair and eyes and the dark skin, I been married for 38 years to same woman, A Good woman, lost one son, but have two of the best daughters in the world, I am so proud of them, I did work them too hard as they were growing up, work is all I know, never put them in school (hell if they could not teach me to read in eleven years they sure were not going to brainwash my children)they taught themselves, both got GEDs and both have went to college (paid their own way), both my girls started work young, at twelve they were farm hands for a vineyards, my youngest girl took my advice and saved every penny she made, she invested in silver, as a savings account, she bought 5 acres which we developed and built her first home on, she started having heart trouble and moved to town to be closer to work, and is buying her second home, so she can be close to the factory she works in, as the state has took her drivers license because of seizures she has. MY older daughter is married, a hard worker, she works for herself and wears many hats, she breaks horses and trains them, delivers newspapers and caretakers for ranches, she has a dental assistance license but prefers to work outdoors. I have lived in poverty a good portion of my life, but always fed my family, even if it was cutting firewood, and skinning road kill for supper, I own 5 acres and a manufactured home now, developed the property myself, here in the woods of Oregon, have a bad back and need a new hip replacement, but that does not slow me down, fell 60 foot from a radio tower when I was younger, broke my back, powdered both femurs, took three years and many operations, before I could walk without tools, but even then I worked at any job I could do, never had took a dime from anybody not even the government, and will starve before I do.
I always tried to do the right thing, have lived a rough life, but always done the best I could, my hobby now is gold refining, and learning from all of you people, funny thing is I am a loner, cannot stand to be around more than one person at a time, I do ok with one person when I get to Know them, and are usually good friends, but you get more than one person around me and I am ready to head for the mountains, I do not have social skills, and so it is kind of funny for me here to be on this social forum. but what a great group of people here on this forum and they all like gold and so there is much to learn.

It has been said it is the obstacls in life that determine what kind of man you will be. 8) You are ACES in my book.

Cherokee and Kentucky? Are you able to traced your family history back and find out who your ancestors are? My 5th great grandfather is Daniel Boone and he married a full blooded cherokee. When my dad came back from WWII he was so dark they made him ride in the back of the bus. :lol:
 
I can not trace my family history back past my mothers family, never met them, my sister went to see them when she was grown, apparently my mothers grandmother was full blood, from what I have read in history, the cherokee were driven out of the east by general Jackson (the drunken president), trail of tears, these were the same people who helped the white man gain his independence from the british king american revolution, and were mixed early with the white man, many familys were of both race, their land rights taken they were driven to georgia untill gold was found there and then driven to oklahoma, there was a band of cherokee who kept the old ways who hid in the mountains of kentucky, and did not go on the trail of tears. they must have later mixed with the whites.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears
 
Im not too far behind you butcher.Barren knows most of my history.I broke a lot of bones in a horrible accident when I was 17.I tried to beat up a Delta88 and the olds won that fight.got married right after that.My kids are the same way,my oldest(daughter who is 19 now)when she was 7 we had to take her out of school due to something her teacher did to her,she never went back.My son (13 now) has never been to public school,and never will if I have any say so about it.Both of them have worked their whole life beside my wife and I.
I just deleted a lot,cause I am sure I will get reprimanded for dragging this out(whats allowed isn't always the same for everyone).
I just wanted to say thank you.People like you are the salt of this country,I hope I am like you when I get older.
hats off
 
Oz said:
you speak as a man that is exacting in nature and harder on himself than on others.
Funny you should notice that. Yes---indeed. I am harder on myself than I am others. I have lived a life of assumed perfectionism----heavy on the "assumed". I am very unkind to myself when I screw up.

One rarely accomplishes a task to perfection, but that has never slowed me down. I have persisted, and can see that it is one of the reasons that I am still working on a two bedroom house that started life in 2001. It's hell to be cursed with a desire for perfection----but it served me well, particularly in my years in the shop, and in the refinery. People of many walks of life have a great appreciation for a job well done.

I thank you for you kind assessment of my traits. It's not always the way I am, but I strive for fairness and try to respect the opinions of others, even when I strongly disagree. After all, we all see things differently, often with no real right or wrong---just personal opinion.

Did I mention you have EARNED my respect. Not that you needed it.
For that I thank you.

Need it?

Of course I do. I've moderated long enough to know that there are readers that detest those that provide guidance, particularly if the individual has power of life or death over a post. They can't seem to let their egos come to terms with the idea that others may know things they do not. I've seen it time and again, generally related to the machining industry. There, poor performance often yields results of sorts, very unlike refining, where if you screw up, you get nothing.

Here (on the gold forum), anyone that has experience is valued---for they generally can bail out the guy that has done everything wrong. Doesn't work that way on machines. Guys will make do with what ever results they get and consider themselves the equal of the guy that can to it to the print, in good time, with proper results, without guidance. A favorite saying of mine is making chips is easy. Making parts is hard.

Thanks, Oz. Your recent comments have cast a whole new view of you in my mind. (That's a good thing!)

Now back to your reply Harold. I know that you were yanking my chain, but out of all I wrote, I surely hope that is not what others got as the take-away message. It was only to give context.
Surely they got more! See my comment, above.

By the way, I used to carry when I refined. There were some interesting experiences, for I was refining in conjunction with machining for a few years. My customers were, primarily, Litton Guidance & Control, and Univac. Being a one-man operation, I delivered my work personally. I was often admitted to the plants---carrying a weapon unconcealed. Raised quite a few eyebrows in my day!

I no longer carry---but I probably should. Just today, three people were gunned down in a small community near us, by a resident of our community. Crazy people abound.

Butcher----I thank you for your comments about your life. I have watched you carefully for some time now and have come to appreciate your wisdom. It has been pleasurable watching you interact with the readers, especially now, knowing of you penchant for being alone. We're proud to have you on the board.

Harold
 

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