So, you think your rocks are valuable? READ THIS BEFORE YOU POST ABOUT ORE!

[DarkspARCS]

Pictures are nice, but they are often not very informative and not documentation by themselves.
What is this?
And what is it with the bold part of my avatar name?

I dont know what happened with the bold part of your name's spelling in my post, forum glitch maybe? Maybe I accidently highlighted it bold??

The image I posted was just a nice image I posted in my reply, it's a gold bearing archeon greenrock specimen I pulled from the tailings pile of a gold mine found inside the Mt. Perkins caldera in Arizona. I found 5 specimens that day...

Anyway, about the uploading of documents... There are approx. 400 documents dealing with the prospecting of, pyrometallurgy of, hydrometallurgy of, and assaying of precious metals as well as commercially valuable metals, safety, and ore body types associated with the ores associated with metals, mining, mine engineering, and mine safety. All the types of documents an organization such as GRF should possess, as an institution geared towards the education of the public in the art of refining gold from ore and scrap.

It's possible this library can be offered on a paid subscription basis to members in order to generate funds to keep this organization running, it's up to the admins. I'm a financial supporter if this group and have been for over a decade. I'm not interested in any funds from said subscription, I only mention that as a method for the forum to use to offset its operating costs...

This forum has taught me a lot within the industry and these are the documents I used to supplement my education. I offer it to the forum for future generations of GRF members and industry professionals who have questions, and who can utilize these documents to further thier knowledge and their ability.

So my next question is, where do I upload them...? Do I create a new forum post and just start loading them to that post?

 

[DarkspARCS]

As long as it's not still protected by copyrights.

Dave

Just about every document that represents a scientific or geologic peer reviewed document is copyrighted Dave. These papers have been offered publicly and as such do not represent copyright violations.

 

[Yggdrasil]

Just about every document that represents a scientific or geologic peer reviewed document is copyrighted Dave. These papers have been offered publicly and as such do not represent copyright violations.

Then it is relatively easy.
In stead of uploading the document itself, just make a post with links to the public available document.

 

[GoldReport]

Hello everyone,

I love this thread! Just wanted to share some of my own experiences with mining and prospecting.

- The very first thing I always have to remind myself is that the rock I have very likely does not have any appreciable gold. Remind yourself this or you will fall prey to trying to wish the gold into existence, it won't work I've tried.

- Finding gold, in its native form, will be like a slap in the face it's so obvious. If you find yourself questioning if it's gold, it probably isn't. If you want to see some gold buy a bag of paydirt online, this can help bolster your confidence when prospecting.

- Do you live in a gold bearing area? Has gold been historically found somewhat nearby?
If no, your small chances of finding gold are pretty small.

- "Gold rides the iron horse" This is a common phrase that describes the common occurrence of gold with other iron bearing minerals. The fact of the matter is this: when you find gold it's often with iron, and when you find iron it's often with more iron. Aka finding iron minerals/sulfides/pyrite doesn't mean much unless you already know there is gold associated with that formation.

- Many minerals simply cannot be identified by picture. If you don't have the tools and experience to ID a rock, you can try your local college with a geology department.

- If you think your rock has gold in it:
1. Look at it closely with a loupe or magnifying glass, if you have gold there might be some visible specks.
2. If there's no visible gold but you still think there's gold, crush it. This can be as simple as an old pair of jeans and a sledge hammer. There are many ways to accomplish this. Get it crushed down to a fine powder as best you can.
3. Use your gold pan on the fine dust you have. Make sure you save all your material that you're panning even the material that goes over the pan. A little jet dry or dish soap is good here as it will cut down on the surface tension. Don't have a gold pan? You can use a cake tin or something similar. But if you actually want to mine gold just get a gold pan already.
4. If gold is present it will be quite small so make sure to grab your loupe. If you still don't see gold then you can try roasting if its a sulfide deposit.
5. Get an old cake pan, cookie sheet, iron skillet, or something you don't care to cook with again. Light a bond fire and roast your crushed material (all of it, including what went over your pan last time). Roast and stir until there are no more red glowing bits.
6. Pan your gold again. Did you find any? If so, congrats! If not, its probably going to require some advanced techniques so you should send it off to get a fire assay if you're still convinced.


Hope these tips might help!

 

[Toomuch Hunt]

Hello everyone,

I love this thread! Just wanted to share some of my own experiences with mining and prospecting.

- The very first thing I always have to remind myself is that the rock I have very likely does not have any appreciable gold. Remind yourself this or you will fall prey to trying to wish the gold into existence, it won't work I've tried.

- Finding gold, in its native form, will be like a slap in the face it's so obvious. If you find yourself questioning if it's gold, it probably isn't. If you want to see some gold buy a bag of paydirt online, this can help bolster your confidence when prospecting.

- Do you live in a gold bearing area? Has gold been historically found somewhat nearby?
If no, your small chances of finding gold are pretty small.

- "Gold rides the iron horse" This is a common phrase that describes the common occurrence of gold with other iron bearing minerals. The fact of the matter is this: when you find gold it's often with iron, and when you find iron it's often with more iron. Aka finding iron minerals/sulfides/pyrite doesn't mean much unless you already know there is gold associated with that formation.

- Many minerals simply cannot be identified by picture. If you don't have the tools and experience to ID a rock, you can try your local college with a geology department.

- If you think your rock has gold in it:
1. Look at it closely with a loupe or magnifying glass, if you have gold there might be some visible specks.
2. If there's no visible gold but you still think there's gold, crush it. This can be as simple as an old pair of jeans and a sledge hammer. There are many ways to accomplish this. Get it crushed down to a fine powder as best you can.
3. Use your gold pan on the fine dust you have. Make sure you save all your material that you're panning even the material that goes over the pan. A little jet dry or dish soap is good here as it will cut down on the surface tension. Don't have a gold pan? You can use a cake tin or something similar. But if you actually want to mine gold just get a gold pan already.
4. If gold is present it will be quite small so make sure to grab your loupe. If you still don't see gold then you can try roasting if its a sulfide deposit.
5. Get an old cake pan, cookie sheet, iron skillet, or something you don't care to cook with again. Light a bond fire and roast your crushed material (all of it, including what went over your pan last time). Roast and stir until there are no more red glowing bits.
6. Pan your gold again. Did you find any? If so, congrats! If not, its probably going to require some advanced techniques so you should send it off to get a fire assay if you're still convinced.


Hope these tips might help!

I've done all thee above and I'm certain that what I have is gold In slabs already mined and pressed together for transport and further refining the slabs are around 70 lb and contain raw gold silver and platinum

 

[Yggdrasil]

I've done all thee above and I'm certain that what I have is gold In slabs already mined and pressed together for transport and further refining the slabs are around 70 lb and contain raw gold silver and platinum

Welcome.
I have never heard of this.
How does they compress the slabs?
In this forum what counts is not what you feel or what you think.
Our minds are too easily swayed by the devilish Gold Fever.
What counts is testing which would be easy if your assumption is correct.
So do you have some kind of test, assay or anything?

 

[Toomuch Hunt]

Welcome.
I have never heard of this.
How does they compress the slabs?
In this forum what counts is not what you feel or what you think.
Our minds are too easily swayed by the devilish Gold Fever.
What counts is testing which would be easy if your assumption is correct.
So do you have some kind of test, assay or anything?

 

[Yggdrasil]

This says nothing, do you have tests or assays?
Without any test or assay it is a rock, well in this case a slab of a rock.
It do not matter what you wish or want it to be.

 

[4metals]

First you started with crushed and concentrated ore or rocks and are convinced, without an assay, that it is gold. Then you compress it back into a rock and submit a photo, still without any analytics.

You have gone full circle back to the rock as we await details!

 

[Southfork]

Hard to tell from a photo what it is drill a core and crush and pan. Cheap easy visual prospecting then take whatever steps are necessary.

 

[GoldReport]

I've done all thee above and I'm certain that what I have is gold In slabs already mined and pressed together for transport and further refining the slabs are around 70 lb and contain raw gold silver and platinum

What have you done that convinces you of the presence of gold?

 

[4metals]

I've done all thee above and I'm certain that what I have is gold In slabs already mined and pressed together for transport and further refining the slabs are around 70 lb and contain raw gold silver and platinum

There is actually a technique quite useful in the method you use of pressing the powdered rocks back together. Assuming you used a ball mill to make a homogeneous fine powder, you could take a sample of the powder and send it out to assay. Then, knowing the assay, you can press it into those 70 pound pillow shaped slabs and ship it off for processing knowing exactly the value of each pillow.

 

[Toomuch Hunt]

There is actually a technique quite useful in the method you use of pressing the powdered rocks back together. Assuming you used a ball mill to make a homogeneous fine powder, you could take a sample of the powder and send it out to assay. Then, knowing the assay, you can press it into those 70 pound pillow shaped slabs and ship it off for processing knowing exactly the value of each pillow

 

[Toomuch Hunt]

Honestly I'm not sure of how they did it but I know they had alot of knowledge about alot of things,
they being the KGC, which I tell you that I've found one of their lost hidden treasures I'm not at all joking, I've found a good one too marked by Bickley himself and otter items by the jesse james and the younger gang alongside Billy the kid, what should I do? I found on property belonging to my family but I'm still worried about reporting it just because I've read some stories online where the go government trys to take it most the time, I was planning to have enough refined to buy my own equipment to refine the rest myself!!! Any.advice?

 

[Yggdrasil]

Honestly I'm not sure of how they did it but I know they had alot of knowledge about alot of things,
they being the KGC, which I tell you that I've found one of their lost hidden treasures I'm not at all joking, I've found a good one too marked by Bickley himself and otter items by the jesse james and the younger gang alongside Billy the kid, what should I do? I found on property belonging to my family but I'm still worried about reporting it just because I've read some stories online where the go government trys to take it most the time, I was planning to have enough refined to buy my own equipment to refine the rest myself!!! Any.advice?

Have an assay first.
Then you will know what you have.

 

[4metals]

they being the KGC,

This is alien to me, all I can think of is the Kangaroo Garden Club, which is likely wrong.

So you acquired some stone or ore and had someone crush it and compress it into those pillows? Did they add any binder to keep it from drying out and crumbling?

Can you acquire a sample of the powder before it was compressed?

We can tell you how to sample the material and how to figure out what, if anything, it is worth but we cannot quell any fears you have about the characters from the wild west. We also will leave any reporting you feel you need to do up to you.

 

[goldshark]

Take a drill sample to an assayer. Don't take the whole thing, just a sample. And for God's sake, shut the f--- up! You could also take a chisel, and slice off a ribbon, then go to a pawn shop that has an XRF, for a primary assay. Have you hit it with a magnet to see if it is magnetic. Typical Dore' bars from that era are longer, tapered, and about 70 - 90 Lbs. Avordupouis. It could have been remelted, but the James Gang on the run probably didn't have time to re melt it.

 

[goldshark]

The big thing is if somebody reported this for an insurance claim. Or property of the US government. It may have some historical worth greater then the value of the metals contained. Take small sample from an inconspicuous area for the sample, so as not to destroy it. Authentication will determine its value.

 

[4metals]

Are we talking about the same thing here. The photo shows what looks like a very uncomfortable pillow not stolen property.

 

[Shark]

This is alien to me, all I can think of is the Kangaroo Garden Club, which is likely wrong.

KGC stands for Knights of the Golden Circle.