Jimmy said:
I got my claim there just from an add like this. I went and looked and offered to buy the guy out.
The gold looking stuff is well, Gold and the green is copper oxide.
You can be either uber careful or you can take some risk. You will never get rich being uber careful.
So did you get rich quick?
Twice in my life, once through international trade, and once via the real estate bubble I have made a very good living, and have watched it slip through my fingers. No matter how careful you are, you can loose it all, even when being very careful and taking only calculated risks.
Getting rich quick? Not unless you win the lottery. Usually it takes a lot of hard work and effort. So I'm curious...
So are you saying you are rich from this claim, at the very least it seems you are insinuating, or leading people to believe this. You purchased it, but have you produced anything? And if so, did that not take a good sum of money to do so? "it takes money to make money" usually. I personally do not know anyone who has taken ridicules risks, such as risking any money on the deal that started this thread, and got rich. But I do know people who have thought they could get rich by taking unreasonable risks and lost it all.
I'm also curious how you can relate your claim, with the claim of the person who originally started this thread. It doesn't make any sense to me at all, the two are mutually exclusive. He is posting about 50kgs of gold, not selling a gold producing claim. You cannot even start to compare the risks of the two. If you test, and prove out your claim before you purchase it you are taking a calculated risk. If you travel to a 3rd world country just on faith, and then again based on faith believe that this transaction is real and will actually happen, legally, and that the gold is real, and will assay that way, and doesn't have lead in the center, and you will be able to bring your gold back into the United States without issues and problems that just sounds, unrealistic, to me.
Fantasies like the deal the poster would have us believe, are for people who cannot face reality.
Do you believe in the Philosophers Stone also? Because this is what this particular deal amounts to so far as I am concerned, a pipe dream, someone ate a mushroom they shouldn't have eaten.
There are so many people sourcing gold in the world, so many people who know what they are doing, travel to places like Peru, and purchase from reputable sellers. How is it these miners cannot find someone willing to pay a fair price, in a country where other people on this thread have stated has a large gold market, and are producing large amounts of gold. Seems like people would flock there to purchase gold, why in the world would people need to be solicited in order to get a fair price?
I have seen way too many of these types of deals being offered in South America and in West African countries. It's pretty much the norm. It's the same words, the same scam, rinse and repeated over and over and over again. There are generations of people who have been exposed to these schemes. I remember the first business I owned, I bought a fax and the first thing that showed up on my fax was an offer from someone in a West African Nation offering to sell me x amount of KGs of alluvial gold dust. The scheme has never changed since but rather become more modern in it's makeup.
Why would you ever encourage someone in the form of your comment "You can be either uber careful or you can take some risk. You will never get rich being uber careful." Would you feel any responsibility at all if someone went to Peru and ended up getting ripped off? Before you write and endorse actions that are way outside the realm of what actually happens in real life, maybe you should really think hard about what you are actually stating. Would you encourage someone who had never used acids before and new nothing of Chemistry, to make up a batch of Aqua Regia to dissolve gold with?
Never does it cease to amaze me how quickly people loose all reason, even when the numbers are way out of line, when it comes to gold.
Lets put this to rest right now!
According to this article by Bloomburg:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a62rlXLdk1pA
Puru will produce 1.6 million ounces of gold in a year.
For the sake of arguing I am assuming this is measured in troy ounces.
1.6 million ounces of gold divided by 365 days in a year = 4383.56 OZt per day.
There are 32.15 OZt in a kilogram. Now keep in mind the person who posted is claiming he represents miners that product 50 kilos PER DAY
So, 4383.56 ounces per day divided by 32.15 OZt per kilogram = 136.4 kilograms of gold, per day.
That amounts to about 37% of the total gold production, per day, this person is claiming the miners he represents produce, per day.
What makes this number impossible to bear is the fact that the largest mine in puru, owned by the 2cd largest gold mining company in the world, produced out of the largest gold mine in Peru 1.46 million OZts of gold last year. That changes all the numbers above in such a way that it makes it glaringly obvious that the post is a lie, the claimed amount is a lie, the person posting this unreal amount of gold per day, is lying. There is just simply no other way to slice or dice it according to the numbers, this post is a lie, utterly a lie, there is no truth to the 50 kilos per day, it's a LIE. I cannot stress or say this enough, everything about this deal stinks, and is a outright LIE!
And if you think otherwise, investigate the numbers like I did, it didn't take too long, I just googled everything.
Scott
