But wouldn't it be right to use something people already invested their time and knowledge? Here I should learn what those who are producing different systems probably already learned. We ride bicycles we do not build. Of course "system" may be not very good, or expensive or else.jimdoc said:
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rewalston
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gold57 said:
I personally would rather learn the "magic" behind the scenes here on the forum than to use a system that I have no idea how it works or why. At least with our astute senior members will tell you why something is happened and the reason behind it. And MOST if not all will help you through trouble spots as long as you have followed the guidelines about reading Hoke and the posts. There is a lot of free help on this board. If you purchase one of these "magic" systems if you run into a problem with them, there is hardly any tech support offered. All the tech support you will ever need is right here free of charge AND you don't have to buy a $500 system to get it.
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Geo
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AFLAC???? :lol: :lol: :lol: so very funny.
philddreamer
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Maybe when the Beatles wrote The Magical Mystery Tour, iShor was the "trip"!
I know a person that brought me his shor chemicals in exchange for refining some material. He gave up with shor because he ran into problems, called them & their response, "send us $200.00 for another chemical & more instructions!
This is a great forum! Thank you all!
I know a person that brought me his shor chemicals in exchange for refining some material. He gave up with shor because he ran into problems, called them & their response, "send us $200.00 for another chemical & more instructions!
This is a great forum! Thank you all!
gemcutter
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Hi all,
Brand new here! In fact this is my first post. I just wanted to give a big "thank you!" to the people who posted on this topic. I was considering buying the simplicity system. I will be saving my dough.
Brand new here! In fact this is my first post. I just wanted to give a big "thank you!" to the people who posted on this topic. I was considering buying the simplicity system. I will be saving my dough.
philddreamer
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Welcome to the forum Gemcutter!!! 8)
mikesmadness
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I have to thank all of you for dissuading me from Shor!!! I had the check filled out! I read a few hundred posts on the topic and tore it up. I have made my first stripping cell which I patterned after LaserSteves video and all worked as it should. I now have my first batch sealed and put away until I can figure out what the next step is. All advice/comments will be gratefully accepted! This is awesome!
Geo
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let the powder settle, this could take a few days to get it all without diluting the acid. siphon or decant acid from the container being careful not to pick up the powder that has settled on the bottom. do not try to collect all the acid because it is impossible without taking some powder. use a container that's large enough to hold the powder and a couple of quarts of water. a 1 gallon glass jar works fine. put two quarts of water in the container then slowly add the acid/powder mix as sulfuric acid mixed with water creates heat quickly. after adding all the powder to the water rinse the container of any remaining powder and add to the jar. let all the solids settle till the liquid becomes clear (24) hours. the liquid should be a deep aqua marine green. decant this liquid into a container that will hold all liquid without spilling (plastic milk jug will work for this). this liquid will be evaporated down to collect the sulfuric acid for further use in the cell. replace the water in the jar with the powder and again let all solids settle (24) hours. after this settling the water should be a light lime green color. decant this solution into another plastic jug to be treated and discarded as it has very little acid to reclaim. repeat the last step until the rinse water is clear after settling 24 hours. decant last wash and treat with sodium bicarbonate and discard. the powder has been properly rinsed is now ready to be dissolved by whichever method you are comfortable with.
Mschindler300
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I to would like to say Thank you for changing my mind on Shor Recovery I almost bought one in 2009 when i join this forum and found out how bogus it was now today Im running a small business. I may not post much but thats because I spent countless hours in the background of this forum searching and reading every post i could to learn from others mistakes I will never be knowledgeable in this field Because there always something new to learn. (Im always on here at least once a day maybe i should start posting more LOL)
Remember Keep your Minds open as there always something to learn
Thank You
Matthew Schindler
Remember Keep your Minds open as there always something to learn
Thank You
Matthew Schindler
Matthew.
You say you will not be knowledgeable in this field?
You sound very knowledgeable from what you stated in your post.
Matthew you should post, many new readers can learn from your experience.
In my opinion the difference in an expert and novice is the expert has learned he doe's NOT know everything, in so doing he learns.
You say you will not be knowledgeable in this field?
You sound very knowledgeable from what you stated in your post.
Matthew you should post, many new readers can learn from your experience.
In my opinion the difference in an expert and novice is the expert has learned he doe's NOT know everything, in so doing he learns.
As usual Butcher straight to the point and very accurate, couldn't have said it better myself 8)
magadetector
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I own the simplicity machine no issues? haven't used on ewast yet.
magadetector
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Sorry i don't feel like getting bullied like the last guy (no more comments Im just hear to read) 
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To be perfectly clear, your post made absolutely no sense.magadetector said:Sorry i don't feel like getting bullied like the last guy (no more comments Im just hear to read)
No one is bullying you, and I resent the accusation.
If you can't put words together in such a fashion that it makes sense to our readers, I strongly advise you to follow your suggestion that you are here to read only. If you post, I expect it to be with manners, and to be clear on the points you raise. Do not post anything that can be remotely construed as aggression, or your visit here will be most unpleasant.
This forum is unlike virtually all other places you may visit on the internet. Here, we demand acceptable behavior and language. Those that resist don't last.
Harold
magadetector,
Welcome to the forum,
You stated:
"I own the simplicity machine no issues? haven’t used on ewast yet."
Try using spell check, and rereading your posts, to see if you understand them, many of us struggle to write, where others can understand and read what we are trying to say. do not take offence by the comments of our Moderators, they keep this forum running like a well oiled machine, after your here for a while you too will appreciate what they do for us.
I understand this as you use the shor system and you are pleased with the results, and that you have not used it on electronic scrap.
I am kind of unsure what the Shor simplicity machine is, is this the one that uses electrolysis and a concentrated salt water solution through a membrane cup?
I have never tried that process, but I think it would work well for certain materials if run properly, and you can build your own machine without being tied to a company like shor.
these systems that shor puts out usually are based on common ways of doing things, they just try and make them secrets and keep there chemicals secret so you are tied to them through your wallet, I am sure many of their systems work if done properly, and some of them could be improved upon, but you will learn here on the forum what will work and why it works, you will not be pulled around by your wallet, and you will find many ways to recover or refine, and learn which processes to use when and why.
Welcome to the forum,
You stated:
"I own the simplicity machine no issues? haven’t used on ewast yet."
Try using spell check, and rereading your posts, to see if you understand them, many of us struggle to write, where others can understand and read what we are trying to say. do not take offence by the comments of our Moderators, they keep this forum running like a well oiled machine, after your here for a while you too will appreciate what they do for us.
I understand this as you use the shor system and you are pleased with the results, and that you have not used it on electronic scrap.
I am kind of unsure what the Shor simplicity machine is, is this the one that uses electrolysis and a concentrated salt water solution through a membrane cup?
I have never tried that process, but I think it would work well for certain materials if run properly, and you can build your own machine without being tied to a company like shor.
these systems that shor puts out usually are based on common ways of doing things, they just try and make them secrets and keep there chemicals secret so you are tied to them through your wallet, I am sure many of their systems work if done properly, and some of them could be improved upon, but you will learn here on the forum what will work and why it works, you will not be pulled around by your wallet, and you will find many ways to recover or refine, and learn which processes to use when and why.
