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[kadriver]

I have heard that there is some type of metal out there that tests positive with acid but it is not precious metals at all.

I have heard that this mystery metal is used to make class rings and dental bridge work.

Anyway - I found this on Ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scrap-Platinum-acid-tested-positve-1-5-troy-ounces-lot-/261138085579?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item3ccd0af6cb

Has anyone else heard of this metal I spoke of? There is a name for it, but I can not remember what it is.

kadriver

 

[goldsilverpro]

I have heard that there is some type of metal out there that tests positive with acid but it is not precious metals at all.

I have heard that this mystery metal is used to make class rings and dental bridge work.

Anyway - I found this on Ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scrap-Platinum-acid-tested-positve-1-5-troy-ounces-lot-/261138085579?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item3ccd0af6cb

Has anyone else heard of this metal I spoke of? There is a name for it, but I can not remember what it is.

kadriver

Read Chapter 2 of Hoke's, "Testing Precious Metals." There are lots of white alloys containing no PMs that are resistant to acids and some are used for dental appliances. Buying white dental work is always an iffy proposition - most does not contain PMs. Also, since some are fairly heavy, hard, durable, and don't corrode, they are used to make cheap class rings for those that can't afford gold. As Hoke says, they can be weeded out by specific gravity and/or by putting an O2/gas torch on them.

I've never tried to test Pt on a touchstone with acids. I think, though, that the common Pt testing acids sold on eBay are used to test the quality of alloys KNOWN to contain Pt, rather than to test for the presence of Pt. I may be wrong on this.

 

[patnor1011]

This eBay seller has to be record-man in selling melted pins - so called drops. He is selling about 30g each and so far has sold over 250 pieces. If you check his feedback you will see that there are mostly like one person go for 5-10 pieces.
I do not mind to see I am losing money when I buy one and attempt to extract gold. Those buyers will be crying when they find out that their pound of drops is worth like 1-2 grams of gold.
Seller:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller&userid=uselton19&iid=390509425396&de=off&items=100&interval=0&mPg=50&page=1

The same apply to this seller who sold over 60 of the same type of fools gold:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller&userid=hracicka&iid=290827081144&de=off&interval=0&items=200

The same for this seller who sells big slabs of them:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=gozziesgold&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=140894771853&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller



Now finally, this is the sorry person, he bought these drops in hundreds of grams, I would say in pounds, somebody may do the good thing and let him know about this forum to stop wasting his money:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=john_gillis_gallery&ftab=AllFeedback&rt=nc

 

[Palladium]

He got negative feedback from this guy http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=uselton19&iid=390509425396&de=off&items=100&which=negative&interval=365&_trkparms=negative_365
who says "Cost more to refine than the investment stay clear scamming on rise"
He bought it in early November and left feed back on the 16th, but a week after that he was buying drops again on ebay. :roll: http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=php45&ftab=AllFeedback&rt=nc

 

[niteliteone]

(snip)
Now finally, this is the sorry person, he bought these drops in hundreds of grams, I would say in pounds, somebody may do the good thing and let him know about this forum to stop wasting his money:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=john_gillis_gallery&ftab=AllFeedback&rt=nc

I contacted this person and invited him to visit here, so maybe he will learn the errors in his ways. Also mentioned how he overpaid for all that I viewed of his purchases. :shock:
Hopefully he will stop paying so much for so little.

 

[ericrm]

i have sold 2 time drop on ebay ,and when i did ask the buyer what he expect from those thing

this is his answer... (what he beleive about those gold drop...)

----Even if they look like Gold from top to bottom. There is a base metal like steel or copper. (he dont apear to know that most pin are gold plated brass...this is why drop are yellow...)
Then the pins are coated with 10 karat gold [ no higher karat ]
Use a magnet,if it sticks it is steel base metal.
Copper,silver,gold does not stick to a magnet.
Air dry,but they look so clean. Did you wire brush them. To make them shine ?
Value in a gold plated drop today with gold at $1740.00 Around $1.00 to $1.50 per gram for clean pins no silver color metal or solder.----

i let you see for yourself why there is still poeple buying those drop..................i wonder who give them that crappy information

 

[patnor1011]

I would sell my clean, fully plated pins from electronics for 1,50$/gram to anyone who will want to pay that amount. If that person takes 1000g at a time I will sell for 1,25$/gram. I will pay for postage. Anywhere in this Solar system.

 

[Geo]

he even bought AR from Ebay. i hope he didnt spend his whole Christmas fund on that crap.

 

[its-all-a-lie]

A fool and his money soon parted, seems there are many fools today.....

 

[macfixer01]

A fool and his money soon parted, seems there are many fools today.....

In some cases a fool and his money were lucky to find each other in the first place!

 

[its-all-a-lie]

A fool and his money soon parted, seems there are many fools today.....

In some cases a fool and his money were lucky to find each other in the first place!

This is very true!!

 

[Palladium]

For the love of god what's wrong with them folks. I just spent the better part of two hours clicking feedback after feed back, profile after profile, sale after sale. It's like a rabbit hole in Alice and Wonder Land coupled with some Fantasy Island with some crazy sprinkled on top!
Patterns! Patterns!

 

[goldprospector]

(snip)
Now finally, this is the sorry person, he bought these drops in hundreds of grams, I would say in pounds, somebody may do the good thing and let him know about this forum to stop wasting his money:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=john_gillis_gallery&ftab=AllFeedback&rt=nc

I contacted this person and invited him to visit here, so maybe he will learn the errors in his ways. Also mentioned how he overpaid for all that I viewed of his purchases. :shock:
Hopefully he will stop paying so much for so little.

Folks.....what's going on here? Where do you get off calling someone "sorry" and why on earth would you believe it is OK (as a rep of the forum(?) or as an individual) to contact a buyer and claim that you know what the Au content of a piece was and that it was overpriced? Someone might want to look up definitions of libel, etc.

Here's an interesting challange......search here or elsewhere and find a definative, accurate description of plated materials and the expected yields by de-plating and nitric processing and you will begin to understand how a person might opt to buy some of these "drops" just to get started. I would venture a guess that there are thousands of viewers of this forum that you never hear from and all they really want to know is "how much gold is in this.....?" You also may not be aware that many people never actually refine (although the intended to originally) and end up hording material until the day they make the leap and get started or sell the stuff on ebay again to bail out. Personally, I would rather see them do that than take on tasks that will ultimately be too dangerous for them.

This is an extremely attractive hobby for many people who are not really well suited for it but dream of doing it. Because you have succeeded to some extent and gained some (perhaps limited) experience, please have some respect for those who are unable to find the answers they seek and end up making choices that you have the knowledge to avoid.

 

[goldenchild]

(snip)
Now finally, this is the sorry person, he bought these drops in hundreds of grams, I would say in pounds, somebody may do the good thing and let him know about this forum to stop wasting his money:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=john_gillis_gallery&ftab=AllFeedback&rt=nc

I contacted this person and invited him to visit here, so maybe he will learn the errors in his ways. Also mentioned how he overpaid for all that I viewed of his purchases. :shock:
Hopefully he will stop paying so much for so little.

Folks.....what's going on here? Where do you get off calling someone "sorry" and why on earth would you believe it is OK (as a rep of the forum(?) or as an individual) to contact a buyer and claim that you know what the Au content of a piece was and that it was overpriced? Someone might want to look up definitions of libel, etc.

Here's an interesting challange......search here or elsewhere and find a definative, accurate description of plated materials and the expected yields by de-plating and nitric processing and you will begin to understand how a person might opt to buy some of these "drops" just to get started. I would venture a guess that there are thousands of viewers of this forum that you never hear from and all they really want to know is "how much gold is in this.....?" You also may not be aware that many people never actually refine (although the intended to originally) and end up hording material until the day they make the leap and get started or sell the stuff on ebay again to bail out. Personally, I would rather see them do that than take on tasks that will ultimately be too dangerous for them.

This is an extremely attractive hobby for many people who are not really well suited for it but dream of doing it. Because you have succeeded to some extent and gained some (perhaps limited) experience, please have some respect for those who are unable to find the answers they seek and end up making choices that you have the knowledge to avoid.

goldprospector,

Just curious. Are you the buyer? I was going to write a lengthy response to your post but I thought of something that would basically work for everything you wrote. Hopefully I'm not putting my foot in my mouth and you're not a rocket scientist but... would you go about building a spaceship without any prior knowledge or experience in doing so? With the dangers of things like rocket fuel would you not want someone stop you and try and help if you didnt know what you were doing?

Edit Also, I don’t think English is patnor1011's first language so something may have been lost in translation but... I don't think he was calling the person sorry as an individual but merely saying that they may regret buying the "gold drops" after all is said and done.

 

[goldprospector]

Goldenchild -
I was a buyer of low grade scrap some time ago until I gained some actual experience, a year later. That is one point I am trying to make - you don't need to warn most of these folks because they likely are either a.) not attempting a recovery or b.) are happy to start by dissolving almost anything.The forum is the best source of warnings of all kinds and those buyers need to be here but I don't think it is in the collective best interest of the forum for individuals to "reach out" with their opinion on the content of scrap when it is extremely hard to find that actual info here or elsewhere - only by experience. Those who do manage to make the leap learn for themselves what is productive and what isn't.
The other point I should state more directly is: It is understandable I guess to read the point of view of some who have gained the skills and learned the hard way but the gold fever infected newbies, secure in knowledge gained from youtube will buy whatever they can find and shouldn't be overly criticized for that.
It is after all, their money and their choice. I made that choice once upon a time and look at it without regret as part of the process. Period.

The only cure for Gold Fever is hard work with little return - THEN you start to learn.

 

[Geo]

i really dont think Pat meant that in a derogatory way. i think he was saying more like the individual is sorry that they bought it after they found out that their investment was worthless.

 

[etack]

Goldenchild -
I was a buyer of low grade scrap some time ago until I gained some actual experience, a year later. That is one point I am trying to make - you don't need to warn most of these folks because they likely are either a.) not attempting a recovery or b.) are happy to start by dissolving almost anything.The forum is the best source of warnings of all kinds and those buyers need to be here but I don't think it is in the collective best interest of the forum for individuals to "reach out" with their opinion on the content of scrap when it is extremely hard to find that actual info here or elsewhere - only by experience. Those who do manage to make the leap learn for themselves what is productive and what isn't.
The other point I should state more directly is: It is understandable I guess to read the point of view of some who have gained the skills and learned the hard way but the gold fever infected newbies, secure in knowledge gained from youtube will buy whatever they can find and shouldn't be overly criticized for that.
It is after all, their money and their choice. I made that choice once upon a time and look at it without regret as part of the process. Period.

The only cure for Gold Fever is hard work with little return - THEN you start to learn.

What you say is true its none of our business what you do with your money. However wouldn't you have liked it if someone said your wasting your money this is a better way. Its like going into a bathroom of a friends house and the toilet paper holder is full of hundred dollar bills, why wouldn't you tell them that your flushing money down the drain and you should buy some toilet paper it's cheaper. Also you don't realize how many times the forum has had to deal with people coming in and insisting that the gold blobs they bought have X amount of gold in them.

The fact that you stated and understand that the statement made was an opinion means that you have not looked up the definition of libel. This is a good legal definition of it. http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1153

The only cure for Gold Fever is hard work with little return - THEN you start to learn.

I do like this quote and if you stick around you should put this in your signature line.

Merry Christmas

Eric

 

[Palladium]

Yeah.... I think i will continue to warn anybody and everybody that will listen whether it's my job, responsibility, or not. I know i would want someone to warn me. It's a straight out scam!

 

[patnor1011]

Every seller who polish his melted blobs, drops or however they call them in order to make them more attractive is trying to make them look better than they really are.
To say that buyer is investing or imply that he is hoarding material willingly overpaying in order to gain profit later when gold will go up is pure speculation and I would say that only seller will provide this kind of explanation of what is going on.
Not a single person will pay double of spot for something which is not easily recognizable if he want to invest he will go for bullion.
I felt sorry for that particular buyer and still do. One day he will see that he wasted money buying these drops.

 

[Pantherlikher]

Palladium
I commend your quest for trying to properly inform the unknowing. I really wish someone did that for me years ago when I tried a "Shor instruction manuel". We all have opinions on everything and hopefully we all aggree to dissagree if that's that.
When I get back to putting crap on Fleabay for extra cash, Pantherpoop, my seller name, I want to post a couple auctions of information relating to your quest. Like, $.99 to find out what "Refinning and collecting" PM's is really all about. Then, add a link to the forum and donate all profits to the forum.
BS.