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I am amazed at how close so many of you are to the actual yield. The total for the pins is 2.27 g. I think steyr 223 is the closest with a guess of 2.23. We are starting to get some good eyes for pin yield. Good job to all those in the 2 g range.
 
A .. Um .... He he ..opps :roll:
Sorry guys.,you all did notice my
Guess was.not based on science or math
But my name hence, 223 which i guess for
U guys across the pond is 5.56 :lol:

Go figure, i wish i could do that.with refining
My stuff

Hey isn't there a.duck that can do that in a
Donald duck movie.

Anyways you should count me out since this was
To be.a scientific educated game not a pic a # game

Thanks steyr223 rob
 
Congrats to steyr233!
May we agree that a yield of 0,1X% is a typical one for gold plated pins? We have this discussion over and over again with new users, but wishful thinking wont pay the rent.
If you buy or harvest "average type" gold plated pins expect around 0,1% or roughly 1g per Kilo/ 0,5g per lbs and you are in a realistic range.
If more comes, enjoy.
 
Yes i have rid myself of the pin monster
But still have 15lbs of the springy ones

I am cutting all the heads off untill i get l lb
I believe from the cell showing me that the heads
Took longer meaning more concentrated i
Should get more :lol:
Ok really only one more try maybe I'll get 1 whole
Percent......wait no thats 4.8grams
Ok maybe .4%
I will post my resultd but first to my ceramic chips
A gram in each one ...right :mrgreen:
 
Hye all. I am looking for a bit of help on the yield on a mix of pins. The batch is 1850 g. ( 4.07 pounds). The pins are quite a mix, with lots of flash and partial plate mixed with higher grade full heavy palate material. I am looking for a serious, educated assessment based on what you see in the photos. I will PM each reply with my estimate if you would like. I don't want to post it yet and bias the answers. I will answer any questions as they arise, if any. Thanks in advance, glondor

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This post is a year old but I'm wondering if iron worth it to buy 10 ozs (not troy) for all out $262 I've attached a photo.
I have not done any e-scrap refining before so I'm just not sure if the buy is worth it. Any help here would be appreciated. My guess says the yield would be too low. I don't have alot of info on pins just the plating is like 10 - 30 micro inches.
 

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This post is a year old but I'm wondering if iron worth it to buy 10 ozs (not troy) for all out $262 I've attached a photo.
I have not done any e-scrap refining before so I'm just not sure if the buy is worth it. Any help here would be appreciated. My guess says the yield would be too low. I don't have alot of info on pins just the plating is like 10 - 30 micro inches.
Glondor has not been here for a year now.
 
Glondor has not been here for a year now.
Hey yggdrasil I made a post in newbies refining but got no replies on it. I'm trying to figure out what this mud is and if it's worth holding on to. To refine if it's like palladium or something. It was from this gf jewelry I been working on and it only showed up in the last 2 nitric runs i did on this stuff. Took for ever to seperate from foils cause I didn't want to put it in ar.
 

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Hey yggdrasil I made a post in newbies refining but got no replies on it. I'm trying to figure out what this mud is and if it's worth holding on to. To refine if it's like palladium or something. It was from this gf jewelry I been working on and it only showed up in the last 2 nitric runs i did on this stuff. Took for ever to seperate from foils cause I didn't want to put it in ar.
Not enough information given I guess, how did you dissolve the base metals and so on.
But it is most likely some base metal residue.
Aluminum or Stainless residue since they do not dissolve well in Nitric.
Pd dissolves well in Nitric but that will only be present in some white Golds and dental Gold.
 
it looks more like the remains of some kind of clay,
Perhaps the product was sintered from metal powders; some of them dissolved and some precipitated.


and in addition,
did you "like" the participants’ previous answers to your question?
;)
 
Did you ever cut the Goldfilled open?
If so, did it seem solid or powdery?
I do a 14k acid drop test to verify it is gold filled. I strip the jewelry of all fake gems and magnetic materials. Larger pieces I cut into smaller piece or break in half. I.e. brooches and such. I have found powder filled items but I don't believe I let any pass into the process of dilute Nitric. I read some wear that it take 3 time the base melts grams in ml of nitric to disolve all base metals. But I really just keep adding until it's nothing but foils and colloidal gold in the bottom. Collect it do the next batch and add all gold into ar. My first batch i tryed to go right into ar with the 250 grams I did but the gold yield was low and seemed to be a waste of chems so going forward I just do one ar. so far I have 2 5 gallon buckets full of copper/silver nitrate to process.

I think I will work for setting up a sulfuric stripping cell seems like it maybe an easier method with gold filled and hge items. I tend to find more of this then karat gold to refine.
 
Not enough information given I guess, how did you dissolve the base metals and so on.
But it is most likely some base metal residue.
Aluminum or Stainless residue since they do not dissolve well in Nitric.
Pd dissolves well in Nitric but that will only be present in some white Golds and dental Gold.
Update I did put this in AR by itself. Stannus test gives the latest yellow tint so basically nothing in solution I'm guessing.
 

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I do a 14k acid drop test to verify it is gold filled. I strip the jewelry of all fake gems and magnetic materials. Larger pieces I cut into smaller piece or break in half. I.e. brooches and such. I have found powder filled items but I don't believe I let any pass into the process of dilute Nitric. I read some wear that it take 3 time the base melts grams in ml of nitric to disolve all base metals. But I really just keep adding until it's nothing but foils and colloidal gold in the bottom. Collect it do the next batch and add all gold into ar. My first batch i tryed to go right into ar with the 250 grams I did but the gold yield was low and seemed to be a waste of chems so going forward I just do one ar. so far I have 2 5 gallon buckets full of copper/silver nitrate to process.

I think I will work for setting up a sulfuric stripping cell seems like it maybe an easier method with gold filled and hge items. I tend to find more of this then karat gold to refine.
The Sulfuric striping cell is a fine tool.
I'm not sure if it is suited for Gold filled.

I do not understand how a a test acid drop can verify if something is Gold filled or not.
Do you cut it open and check the cut surface?
 
So glad you passed on those pins. That was a crazy price on them. I can only identify gold filled by the stamp. However, since its karat gold layered on base metal, I suppose you could file it also?
 
The Sulfuric striping cell is a fine tool.
I'm not sure if it is suited for Gold filled.

I do not understand how a a test acid drop can verify if something is Gold filled or not.
Do you cut it open and check the cut surface?
Doing the scratch test on the test plate doesnt work for gold filled cause you will reach base metal so any karat acid would fail it. So I watched a video from that guy sreetips on how to test if gold filled or gold plated. Basically gold filled coating thickness will prevent the acids from reacting to the base metals where plating is not thick enough and the acid breaks thru to the base an reacts in about a second. I have used this method on marked items to see it's validity and it is true. He stated to use 14k test acid i have not tried high like 18 or 22 acid tho maybe give same result not sure. I'm almost out of the 14k acid so I may try the 18 soon to see if it is the same.
 
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