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MMFJ said:
HigginsMechanical said:
"The seller of these items attests that they are not stolen....."

(said in the best Mythbuster's voice...) Well, now, THERE's your problem - you see, we would never have any sort of stolen property ever offered for sale in Las Vegas! :shock:


:lol: LOL... Just the same, I do not care to deal in stolen property at all and I am taking measures to protect myself- as everyone should. Not all thieves wear masks or point weapons. It could be something as simple as someone getting a divorce that ignores a court ordered settlement and tries to sell something belonging to the former spouse.... Or a current or former employee arranging for the removal of assets from a company warehouse for personal gain...
 
HigginsMechanical said:
MMFJ said:
HigginsMechanical said:
"The seller of these items attests that they are not stolen....."

(said in the best Mythbuster's voice...) Well, now, THERE's your problem - you see, we would never have any sort of stolen property ever offered for sale in Las Vegas! :shock:


:lol: LOL... Just the same, I do not care to deal in stolen property at all and I am taking measures to protect myself- as everyone should. Not all thieves wear masks or point weapons. It could be something as simple as someone getting a divorce that ignores a court ordered settlement and tries to sell something belonging to the former spouse.... Or a current or former employee arranging for the removal of assets from a company warehouse for personal gain...

I solved that problem ( some what) by not paying for goods unless I know and have dealt with the seller before.
 
Now you need to build a province wide network of scrappers to pick up everywhere! If you get any replies from my region give me a shout!!! I am sure Jim would take anything north of Barrie, you keep Ottawa, Joem's ecycle network!
 
MMFJ said:
Anyway, it is the way we are working it and so far, it is doing ok. We got one non-profit to give us a load of processors the other day. We paid $768 for 46 pounds, which included 28 Pentium Pro chips! ;) Our profit for just about two hours work (including the time to go there and pick it up) is around $300 just flipping them over to boardsort - nearly $1000 if we sell them on flea-Bay!
Wanted to update a bit on this purchase....

Total 'take' = 46 pounds for $768

in the box was:
- .114375 lb RAM (2 sticks - tossed into the 'pile')
- 4.5 lb Slot Processors (we took the fingers off and sold the rest to boardsort along with some others collected for $39.60)
- .15625 lb 386/486 (that goes into my 'retirement plan' bucket... ;)
- 5.425 lb Pentium Pro ~ sold 2 for $57.56, 26 for $1000 (no, that's not a mistype!....)
- 2.3625 lb Ceramic Pentium/Mac (currently in my 'bucket')
- .42 lb AMD Ceramic (in the bucket)
- .4375 lb AMD Aluminum Top (in the bucket)
- 2.375 lb Black Fiber Chips (sold for $92.63)
- 3.68875 lb Green/Brown No Metal (sold for $77.46)
- 18.0875 lb Fiber Metal Top (sold in a lot, see below)
- 7.51875 lb No Pin Processor (sold with metal tops for $449)

Well, you can add it all up if you want, but the end result is that BUYING PARTS can and DOES PAY. Loads less work, more focused effort and IMHO, MASSIVE results! At least, it was on this load - I'm going in tomorrow to grab my next bucket-o-processors and see how many goodies I get to put into my 'retirement bucket'!
 
joem said:
MMFJ
How did you find out about this sale?
Just to keep it on topic.
and congratulations on your profits
Sorry if it 'strayed' a bit on the topic, I was following up on a part of the post I had done in this thread http://goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=7735&start=240#p120243 discussing where I found it, why I go that route, etc.

Certainly there are MANY methods to gather parts that work - and there's no better 'teacher' than following a tried/true method:
  • Your own experience (though many take this on first, it should be much farther down the list!)
    Experience of others (LISTEN and FOLLOW the instructions on this thread and others - it WORKS!
 
MMFJ said:
[Certainly there are MANY methods to gather parts that work - and there's no better 'teacher' than following a tried/true method:
  • Your own experience (though many take this on first, it should be much farther down the list!)
    Experience of others (LISTEN and FOLLOW the instructions on this thread and others - it WORKS!

No worries. Showing results is great too. But just for the sake of newbies who want to know how to succeed like you did;
How did you first hear about these items and what did you do to get them.
 
joem said:
For the sake of newbies who want to know how to succeed like you did;
How did you first hear about these items and what did you do to get them.
Oddly, I just had a student ask me just that as well so I'll quote what I told him...
On the processors - I just went to the 'source' of where they are already getting computers in bulk - the "E-Waste Recyclers" - a quick search on the internet with "Dallas" on there brings back about 3 million leads for you to follow up on to get processors and such that you want..... That's exactly how I got my first lead - except that we had already been donating computers to them and knew them, but we first found them by a quick internet search. (if you add 'donation' to your search, it drops the leads to around 400,000 - slightly better odds of getting through the list this century! :)

The folks we deal with get computers and ewaste donated to them, then they sell off the 'nice' stuff on ebay, offer 'low cost' computers to the public ('starter' stuff for the poor kind of thing), and sell wherever they can for other stuff (a lot in bulk, like gaylords of phones, pallets of tvs, etc.) and scrap the rest.

We bid on what we can (in case you don't know, they HAVE to get rid of it somewhere - after all, there's more coming in everyday!) - sometimes we win, sometimes we can't touch it. But, we do what we can.
As joem gets his 'network' pumping in thousands of computers a week, we may just have to bid on some parts from him as well :)

Of course, I still have my webpage and ads on craigslist, etc., but I found that to be slow, at best. In thinking just how to get MORE, FASTER, it occurred to me that there are places that already get tons of this stuff, and we just contacted them and put in our bid. Still more to go on our list, and we are processing through them as we can, keeping in mind our limited resources (nobody has enough money, time and manpower to buy all the deals available - if you believe in something they call 'saturation', re-read that last statement....).

We are also working with another non-profit group to open up a new channel for them as well as ourselves - in early stages so can't talk about it much (so much is likely to change before it is all done...), but it sure looks good on paper so far!
 
From My my online classifieds "boxing week sales" ad I got 3 calls today.
I picked up two ( 1/2 filled my van) and I am arranging a time for the third.
Use the ad, modify it, donate to the causes and you can legit your charity activities, go after those old electronics as people replace them from xmas.
 
Hi all
Here is the link to a download page from my site
http://www.junkescrap.com/GRFreebies.htm
I need your input and ideas for various types of advertising so I can build generic types for your needs.
let me know
 
So this forum has really got my head spinning. I couldn't sleep last nigh...and that never happens!

I contacted an IT guy at a local school district(His wife babysits my kids) he gave me the name of his boss. I sent an email last night, and BOOM! if I take the crts, I can have EVERYTHING they dispose of! I found a place in Columbus that'll take the CRT's for free, even PAY me for the ones in Black cases.

They pay for the same items as Board sort, I just haven't broken down the shipping costs to do an apples to apples.

So now I nave about 15 other schools in the county to contact. Apparently they have a recycler come from Toledo and pick the stuff up for free, but only once a year, and the storage rooms get full. So my plan is to set up regular pick ups with all of them. Cherry pick my loads, and sell off the rest! I had an idea to work with a few local charities to work as drop off locations and pay the charities based on the types of items they collect.

I might have accidentally talked myself into starting a freaking e-waste business.....
 
spooks69 said:
I might have accidentally talked myself into starting a freaking e-waste business.....
If you don't, can I have the number for your contacts? :lol:

Congrats on your WOW - always love to see (hear about) those!

Now, just take care of your customer and they'll lead you to more than you can ever know....
 
MMFJ said:
spooks69 said:
I might have accidentally talked myself into starting a freaking e-waste business.....
If you don't, can I have the number for your contacts? :lol:

Congrats on your WOW - always love to see (hear about) those!

Now, just take care of your customer and they'll lead you to more than you can ever know....

That's the plan. I have contacted some local non profits, to see if they'd like to be Drop Spots. I'm offing a set $$ amount per item they receive as a donation, and if they get me in the door to a commercial account they'll also receive a commission for their charity. I indicated I'd pay them commission on any donation for the life of the account.

I'm lucky enough to be somewhere there is no other recycle. The closest is 1.5 hours away and apparently they charge to pick up at local businesses and don't come around very often. So by offering free scheduled pickup, and NOT charging for CRT's (I found a place to recycle them for me for free, and they'll pay me for Black Case units) Should be like gangbusters!!!
 
spooks69 said:
MMFJ said:
spooks69 said:
I might have accidentally talked myself into starting a freaking e-waste business.....
If you don't, can I have the number for your contacts? :lol:

Congrats on your WOW - always love to see (hear about) those!

Now, just take care of your customer and they'll lead you to more than you can ever know....

That's the plan. I have contacted some local non profits, to see if they'd like to be Drop Spots. I'm offing a set $$ amount per item they receive as a donation, and if they get me in the door to a commercial account they'll also receive a commission for their charity. I indicated I'd pay them commission on any donation for the life of the account.

I'm lucky enough to be somewhere there is no other recycle. The closest is 1.5 hours away and apparently they charge to pick up at local businesses and don't come around very often. So by offering free scheduled pickup, and NOT charging for CRT's (I found a place to recycle them for me for free, and they'll pay me for Black Case units) Should be like gangbusters!!!

GREAT Day today!

I used mailchimp.com to send out a mass email to the school and local business tech peeps. I received a call this morning to pick up 4 pallets! and I had the head of the County Schools tech department call. I am picking up some items from her next week, and she is going to push our information out to all of the schools!

I can't wait to start trimming boards.

Buying Drain cleaner for my Suluric cell (For pins and jewelry I've collected), and going to pick up some Muratic and Peroxide for my Ram and cards....VERY excited!
 
Another Classified ad

These are one on the most difficult items to recycle out of all computer related items. These contain very toxic chemicals which can explode if handled unsafely. But junkescrap com will pick up any amount of Laptop batteries from your store, work place, or home, and safely work with a recycler in Quebec to return these batteries reusable base metals.

Call and leave a message, send a message here, or visit our web site, junkescrap com, to let us know what e-waste you want recycled and remember your e-waste helps charities and well as our environment.

Use it as you need it
 
joem said:
Another Classified ad

These are one on the most difficult items to recycle out of all computer related items. These contain very toxic chemicals which can explode if handled unsafely. But junkescrap com will pick up any amount of Laptop batteries from your store, work place, or home, and safely work with a recycler in Quebec to return these batteries reusable base metals.

Call and leave a message, send a message here, or visit our web site, junkescrap com, to let us know what e-waste you want recycled and remember your e-waste helps charities and well as our environment.

Use it as you need it
While likely effective as written, I have several comments/suggestions on this ad.

1. Seems something is missing at the first, just not clear what you are targeting until we get into the ad a bit.
If you use a compelling headline like "Got Laptop Batteries? WE RECYCLE!" or something (be careful of copyright infringement on that one!...), it might work. Otherwise, I'd suggest starting out the ad with "Laptop batteries are one of the most difficult...." instead of "These are one on the most difficult" (note also the change "of" for "on").

2. Get rid of "But" in the third line (for some reason, using 'but' is a real turn-off to many - at least, that is what my advertising coaches tell me....).

3. "Call and leave a message" - while perhaps correct, it is another turn-off to the reader. In today's world of machines-not-people, the last thing I really want to come across is "Go ahead and waste your time calling, just know that we aren't really interested in talking with you and that the best you will get from us is some dumb machine....". Why not just say "DO NOT CALL US - WE WON'T ANSWER ANYWAY!"? Just say "Call" and hopefully, sometimes, you are actually there to answer the phone. If not, then the person calling understands that there are machines and if your outgoing message is compelling enough (i.e., using a similar message to your advertising, etc. and NOT a personal message or something!), then they will know what to do (although you should be clear on that as well in that you want name, number and a short message, please do not say "You know what to do!" :shock:

4. Depending on just where you are using this ad, you should be more clear on the 'send a message here' as many people (even those that frequent the website where you posted it) may not know how to send a message. For instance, when I prefer a website reply, I say something like "use the link at the top of the page to send me a message" (typical for a craigslist ad, etc.) - whatever is appropriate for that particular site. While it may get more responses, it seems confusing/long-winded as well, so I have just gone to 'Call me' for the most part - and, I answer the phone 99.9% of the time.....

5. "to let us know what e-waste you want recycled and remember your e-waste helps charities and well as our environment"
While clear, it is a quite passive. Perhaps end the previous sentence and have something more like "Let us design an e-waste program specifically tuned/geared to your needs." (this works for both the single-time person, which makes for slow gathering, as well as corporate folks with loads of stuff, which you should be targeting anyway)

Then, end up with a strong 'we care' message like "Recycling with junkescrap.com helps charities as well as our environment." - I'm not a fan of "remember", ever since my coaches told me that it makes it sound like you think I'm dumb and need reminding of something (fine in written language stuff, but steer away from it in ads and such).

Saying things like "remember" is much like one of my coaches told me about asking "What is your home phone number?" - while a common, useful question, there are many people today that don't have a home number, just a cell phone (estimates are that soon, the 'home phone' will be extinct in America!) and asking this may embarrass the person in some way in that they simply don't know how to answer the question and/or would feel like they are inferior because they "don't have" or something. It is best to just ask "Do you have another contact number?", which covers any type of phone (at least, any currently known to man.... ;)

BTW, going back on topic a bit.... - a good ad WILL guide and remind the reader of exactly what to do, step by step, while taking care to never implying the reader is stupid or embarrass them in any way. It both serves to instruct as well as guide them into action, which is what both of you really need and want anyway!

So, there's my $.02 worth - hope you can use some of it!
 
I just got back from the scrap yard with a good lead. I asked them what they do with the pcbs they get. Since they do accept them but do not pay and they shred them in a separate shedder because of the mix of metals. TIhe clerk gave me the contact name to see if I can buy the boards from them. I 'll set up a meeting this week.
 
Looks great and HEY, WHATEVER WORKS. Its getting harder to get a hold of escrap these days...

Prob. cause of all us SOB's.... LOL
 

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